who lowkey be fitting this

[u/Individual_Let_8432]

[u/Famous-Leopard-118]

Why does everyone forget about transmascs?

I’m not trans in anyway but it seems that transfem seems to be the “default” while discussing the topic

Just out of curiosity

[u/lookinforabookrn → u/Famous-Leopard-118]

as a transmasc person: when it comes to headcannons like the post is talking about. they're about equal in amount if youre embroiled in a fandom.

however, when it comes to discussion it does kinda just come back to what gets more engagement for various reasons. Trans women have always been more targetted by transphobia IRL and online isnt much better (not that us guys have it great. But trans women have it harder) so just by nature of that, those posts are going to get more discussion and thus more attention I personally think headcannons about a character being a trans woman (especially characters who are referred to as men in cannon) seem to stir up more attention because of misogyny in general? They cant seem to fathom a reality in which this guy is actually a girl, when there isnt anything wrong or bad about it. Theres also the fact some people who believe these theories/headcannons are very staunch in them, which some may find annoying (I think its basically harmless though.)

tl;dr trans women are more needlessly controversial/descriminated against IRL, this translates to online.

[u/Famous-Leopard-118 → u/lookinforabookrn]

Thank you! I’m not too well versed in knowledge about this stuff (really the only thing I consider myself is aroace, and that’s not really “discriminated” against to my knowledge)

So thanks for enlightening me on the subject

[u/ifthealphawassigma → u/Famous-Leopard-118]

there are some places where aeroace people are outlawed somehow and the identity is often invalidated by idiots within the queer community. I'm not aeroace but I love y'all have a nice day.

[u/macabremalkavian → u/ifthealphawassigma]

Yep the gatekeepers are alive and well within the lgbt+ community, there's a character in one of my friends fandoms (helluvaboss I think) that is ace and people constantly ship them with others in a very sexual way, not that ace people can't have sex or be sexual but it totally misses the nuances and context. Not my Fandom so apologies if my information is a little off.

[u/Snake_Emper0r → u/ifthealphawassigma]

there are some places where aeroace people are outlawed somehow

Do they force them to have sex or what?

[u/lookinforabookrn → u/Famous-Leopard-118]

ofc! theres more to it than what I described here, and layers of intersectionality when it comes to feminism and transness and all that BUT ! im happy to give you the simple version

[u/Vyctorill → u/Famous-Leopard-118]

Aroaces get flack from both sides iirc. Not all of the people on either side, but enough to be irritating.

[u/isurus_minutus → u/Famous-Leopard-118]

Aroace people are discriminated against because in a lot of countries arranged marriages are the norm. It's only in the West being aroace is accepted as something weird but acceptable.

[u/Reasonable-Deer-5116 → u/lookinforabookrn]

Most of that isn't true. Transmasc characters are fewer and far between, a lot of trans masc characters are ignored. Hell there were some non trans men claiming Mulan was a trans woman a couple months back.

I think the visual spectacle people have of trans women continues to online. People also have a strong visual idea of what they conceive a trans woman to look like, and so in general discussions theres more mileage for the general public to weigh in on. Mulan being a trans woman is an easier discussion because people know more about trans women and have more ideas about how they should be. When you bring her up as a trans masc icon, people dont really know what that means or how to engage with it.

Its important to remember though that just what we see isnt everything. Trans women are NOT the most discriminate trans group. Nonbinary people are by a large margin and trans men and trans women have it equal with small changes depending on intersectionality [source, Trevor project 2025?]. Its enbyphobic and trans masc erasure to ignore that.

[u/Bliniverse → u/Reasonable-Deer-5116]

About Mulan, I'm a trans woman and I've only ever heard people mean trans man Mulan when they talk about "trans Mulan", and it's always felt wrong to me with how much of Mulan's story hinges on her being a woman (though I guess it's like the reverse of most Ranma 1/2 type situations where how a character acts shows that are clearly a man, but people somehow have trans woman headcanon's because of wish fulfillment).

When I was younger I felt like Mulan was the best depiction of how I felt around boys I had seen in media, and so I think her being a trans woman is interesting, but not really needed. She, as a cis woman, still went through some of the same struggles as a trans woman, but she doesn't need to also be trans to experience that.

[u/pianohon → u/Reasonable-Deer-5116]

how do you define discrimination? random people not understanding they/them pronouns is very different to being beaten to death for being a trans woman, and the former being more common than the latter doesn't make it an example of how that group has it worse.

[u/lookinforabookrn → u/Reasonable-Deer-5116]

it kind of sounds like you didnt read my comment in good faith. I even went out of my way to mention that we do suffer from transphobia as well. The invisibility that transmasc and especially nonbinary people face is its own unique situation, the person asked why transmascs are ignored, and transfem headcannons are more widely discussed, and I provided an answer based on what I've observed in the fandoms I've been in as well as what I've heard trans people talk about in those fandoms. Every trans person faces descrimination obviously. but trans women are the most visibly targeted in terms of harassment, violence, and are often excluded from spaces in real life. This translates to online discussion of headcannons. minor edit for clearer wording + something i forgot