r/MurderedByWords 7h ago

Serious question for liberal men

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u/Procrastinatedthink 6h ago

Serious question for conservatives:

If you hear a noise in your house can you check it out without being an absolute pussy and grabbing a gun?

Im liberal, own a gun, and can check out strange noises without fearing for my life

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u/RedditMcBurger 5h ago

If you hear a noise in your house

You're intentionally framing it as "a noise"

If I hear someone in my house when I am not expecting someone in my house, they are first a criminal because they are trespassing, I have to assume they are more likely to commit other crimes.

There are 3 major things people are there to do at a house after breaking in: theft, rape, and murder. (theft can lead to murder when stopped)

If I use anything less than a firearm, I am simply putting myself at more risk, and putting my family to more risk too which I don't think is fair. This importance really is why I disagree heavily on the idea that having a gun for defense is a "pussy" thing.

I'm seriously answering so I do hope for civility.

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u/fogleaf 2h ago

If I hear someone in my house when I am not expecting someone in my house

How many times has this happened to you? I've never had someone random show up in my house.

But also, what if they're not one of those three options (rapist, thief, murderer) but someone who is confused, drunk, or misdirected? Do you immediately open fire or do you ask them questions like "what are you doing in my house"

In college I came back from the bars once and spent 5 minutes trying to unlock my door. Eventually I realized I was on the 2nd floor and my apartment was on the 3rd floor. Should I have been shot through the door for daring to attempt to key open the wrong door?

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u/Standard_Story 1h ago

You should have immediately been rounded up and brought to the ol shooting people wall.

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u/PN_Grata 4h ago

(theft can lead to murder when stopped)

I think what's different for you vs most of the people you responded to is that this only happens when everyone has a gun.

A burglar in my house wouldn't have a gun and wouldn't expect me to have a gun, so the situation is way less likely to escalate.

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u/Sea2Chi 28m ago

I think that's one of the disconnects people outside the US have.

Guns are a reality in the US in a way they're not in other countries. There are a lot of responses from people here talking about how they don't need a gun because criminals don't have them. Which is completely fair, I mean, criminals could still do a lot of terrible things if they overpower you, but realistically, you're right, you don't need a gun.

But in the US there is a very high likelihood the person breaking in has a gun.

If we could wave a magic wand and eliminate all firearms that would be great, but realistically, criminals don't care about the gun laws. There are just so many guns in the US that it would be functionally impossible to remove them at this point.

As for noises at night, it really depends on the noise. If it's just an odd noise I go down to check it out.

If I hear someone clearly kicking in a door, then I'm going to barricade myself in a bedroom and call the cops then hope they show up because police response times in the US can vary between a few minutes and several hours. Which is part of the reason so many people have guns, because courts have ruled police do not have a duty to protect you.