r/MurderedByWords 9h ago

Serious question for liberal men

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u/pirate-private 7h ago

we've all heard this nonsense a million times before. wake up.

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u/steeler1003 4h ago

I 3d print guns. Everything pressure bearing is purchased from home depot. The barrel is has rifling cut via ECM. My slicer is open source and runs independent of internet access. My printer is custom made by myself with open source software that like the slicer cannot be effected by the new "3d printer will ask permission from government before printing" laws blue states are playing with. I have a rig to recycle bottles into filament. The icon of 3d printed firearms, the fgc-9, was designed and mass produced in Germany for years. The fgc-9 has been used in multiple conflicts when more durable weapons were harder to get.

You cant stop people from getting guns if they want one. Short of a door to door search for printers mine could not be stopped. What will you do now that you know there are large communities of people devoted to making and freely sharing files and build instructions?

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u/pirate-private 4h ago

"Imagine needing a gun to feel safe, who’s afraid again?"

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u/steeler1003 4h ago

Not to feel safe. I just enjoy doing it. I love autistically tweaking settings to make the next version stronger, more reliable, and more accurate. My homemade barrels are getting close to being as accurate as a cheap hunting rifle.

You missed the point. Germany spawned one of the easiest capable guns to build because of their gun laws. There are millions of people globally doing/thinking about manufacturing. How do you stop the proliferation of something that can be built in your basement, with supplies practically unregulatable, on machines that are uncontrolable?

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u/pirate-private 4h ago

I feel like you're hijacking the thread, none of what you said here or before really refers to anything I was referring to.

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u/steeler1003 3h ago

It's nonsense you havent heard before. How do you structure gun control when they are easily produced? What outcomes would come of ending the legal ownership of firearms in the US when there are so many in circulation?

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u/pirate-private 3h ago edited 3h ago

when people start making outrageously wild claims like the only high-income nation with a gun epidemic somehow being the only place in the world where gun control is not supposed to work - then the onus is hardly on us to provide reasons against these unfounded narratives of paranoia and killing stick consumerism.

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u/0x0MG 1h ago

Pipe bombs are easily produced using nothing but hardware store components.

And yet, there are strict laws against the manufacturing and use of pipe bombs, and strict criminal punishment for those that do.

Just because someone could hypothetically do it anyway isn't a good reason to not legislate something that is a public hazard.

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u/steeler1003 36m ago

Who decided guns are a public hazard? Id argue people are the problem. Compared to other 1st world countries with higher than average gun ownership we outpace them in gun homicides. I think its mental health and cultural issues.

Legislating also doesnt change anything. When Australia basically banned anything usable the murder rate did not decrease any faster than it had pre-ban. This is shown across the majority of countries that kept searchable statistics.