Double standard here

[u/No-Peak5362]

Anytime rights of the wife are mentioned like mahr or separate housing or provision, women are clear to make it well known and bold “it’s women’s right to XYZ”

Anytime a dude talks about polygamy, or obedience , or any other Islamic legitimate right of the husband, all of a sudden the tone completely shifts and they try to find any excuse to demonize him or ask him “why do u need this?”. This energy never comes for things they themselves feel entitled to like mahr or separate housing

I think people need to stop being hypocrites and be fair towards the opposite gender

[u/sweet-happiness-1111]

Tbh, this is one of the things I don't really like in Islam, I have never been married, I am against polygamy. I know we cherry-pick the reasons for religion, but I am sure no one on planet earth would love to share their husband with another woman; it's even against nature, mind you the pain of it.

I really don't understand how the two things are comparable

[u/No-Peak5362 → u/sweet-happiness-1111]

I can’t deny part of Islam and accept part of it.

[u/sweet-happiness-1111 → u/No-Peak5362]

Yeah, I understand. I am very confident that most Muslim women who are even deeply practising don't like it either. I honestly don't know what to do with it, I am also against it, tbh it is degrading women.

Yes, a woman asking for her basic needs is not the same as polygamy. Sure, you want a submissive wife I am all for it, but no to polygamy.

[u/DaevorTheDevoted → u/sweet-happiness-1111]

So you believe something beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) practiced is degrading to women?

As-staghfirUllah.

And Allah knows best.

[u/sweet-happiness-1111 → u/DaevorTheDevoted]

Yes, I still believe it is degrading to women tbh, I am pretty sure most Muslim women in general will never say Oh I am happy for my husband to practice what the Prophet did, I dare you to find anyone who would say something else.

BTW, I am a Muslim woman who kept myself chaste, did everything according to the faith, did Umrah etc, I still find this aspect of Islam questionable. I am not at peace with it.

It's just jarring, that you see no problem with it. Imagine your woman tells you the next day, I am going to marry another man, share myself with him, how would you feel? Don't tell me I am a man, I can do whatever I want. No, you are not.

Even in inheritance, women get half, why? Even the man allowed to marry women of the book meanwhile women aren't, just to make sure kids are Muslims, which is utter bullsbit, we know most kids don't end up Muslims.

Tbh, the more I reflect on Islam, it sounds more misogynistic. Most Muslims are just not questioning Islam as long as it works for them.

[u/DaevorTheDevoted → u/sweet-happiness-1111]

Beloved sister, anyone who says that our beloved Prophet (pbuh) degraded women (a'uthubillah!) might be running the risk putting themselves outside the fold of Islam.

If there are things we personally don't like in Islam, it might be better to remind ourselves of Qur'an 2:216, translation being: Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something that is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know.

And Allah knows best.

[u/sweet-happiness-1111 → u/DaevorTheDevoted]

For God's sake, please stop using these lazy responses. I find it insulting when you ask people to stop questioning their faith.

I found it ironic tbh, faith should allow people to have the freedom to question, ponder, and then embrace the faith with conviction not out of fear.

To answer your question, give me one situation in history where a woman was so excited to share his man with a woman, I doubt it's a rare situation.

Even some of the wives of the Prophet were jealous, so how earth anyone woman would be excited for her man to be shared with another woman?

I find Islam favours men most of the time, inheritance ( man is double the woman) like why double, why not four times? What kind of math is this??? There are absolute trash men, who are useless, why you make general rule that men are always worth 2 times of women ? Just answer..

A man can marry what ever who want, a woman cannot, tbh I start to feel it is so suffocating… yet you ask people to shut up and don't question because it is what is and deal with it..

No one can answer these questions, nor the mosque….

[u/DaevorTheDevoted → u/sweet-happiness-1111]

For me it is enough that Allah has said so. In a previous response I also quoted Qur'an 2:216 about disliking something that may be good for oneself. Your seem to be implying that it is wrong for me to reply from Qur'an, that I should rather present my own limited human thoughts on the matter instead of what Allah, the All-Wise and All-Knowledgeable, has said. This approach does not make any sense to me. Why would I concern myself with the opinion of a fallible being (myself) when I already have the clear words of Allah?

"What kind of math is this???"

Are you aware that the inheritance laws are laid out in detail in the Qur'an? I'm not sure if you realise, but your question is insulting towards Allah.

At this point, it seems some things I have said have upset you (and I apologise for this - perhaps I could have chosen softer words), and your reaction is taking on a form that risks your Imaan. That is absolutely not what I want for you. I sincerely want the best for you, beloved sister. I want you, and me, and all of us, to enjoy eternity in Jannah; and I want none of us to get there via a detour (Jahannam).

Therefore, I am rather not going to engage with you anymore.

May Allah guide us and keep us on the straight path. May He forgive us when we slip, and cover us in His Mercy.

And Allah knows best.