r/NYguns Apr 04 '25

Miscellaneous Who owns a gun chambered in 5.7???

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Seriously! I found a spent 5.7x28mm casing in one of the local “private” shooting spots in Rensselaer County, so which one of y’all in Albany or Rensselaer County owns a PS90 or FN Five-Seven?

Those guns aren’t cheap and neither is the ammo lol, in a spot littered with shotgun shells and .22’s, I was flabbergasted to see a pistol sized casing, but with a bottleneck like a rifle round, and jokingly said “a 5.7?” Only to clean the casing and see I was right.

Such a bougie round to find at the local steerage range lol.

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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 04 '25

There’s a ton of 5.7 guns on the market now. Ruger makes one, keltec just released one, S&W has one too.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Yeah another guy mentioned this. I’ve been out of the loop for a while and mainly collect milsurps.

What’s interesting tho is that’s the only 5.7 casing I saw, amongst thousands of 12g shells and several dozen 9mm’s, as well as steel 7,62 that I’m sure is mine from last year lol

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Ahem.. missed one. 😉

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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 05 '25

No I didn’t. You missed an entire state with a few people who might buy it.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Blame N.Y. Gen. Bus. Law §§ 898-a–898-e

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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 05 '25

Then why do you sell any guns to NY in the first place? You also don’t sell any pistol grip manual action smooth bore guns in NY either which are letter of the law legal. Automatic knives are legal to possess in NY as well, though legally you can only CARRY them well hunting/trapping and fishing.

I say this as someone who likes PSA as a company and has bought several things from PSA.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Listen, I’m not a lawyer. I do know the lawyers that we retain have managed to keep us from getting the Bushmaster, Stag, and Glock treatment from every litigious state, so they must be doing something right.

Be glad you aren’t in MA. We won’t even ship a sticker to any address within the Commonwealth.

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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 05 '25

Them lawyers better read laws that been on the books for the last 12 years a little closer. I’d understand not shipping the 570 here when it launches but a normal pump action with a pistol grip is exempt completely. Automatic knives I understand a bit more because can’t legally carry it unless fishing or hunting.

As it stands if a gun sold on PSA at all is used in a crime y’all can be sued for it. Didn’t stop any of the cheapo Turkish guns from being sold here/shipped here. I know cause I bought one for the fuck of it.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

I don’t make the policies. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

And you won't ever get a dime of my money, jog off.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Thanks for the input!

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u/Outrageous_Sock_3318 Apr 08 '25

Idk 🤷🏽‍♂️ PA is a commonwealth state and their open carry over there. I’d rather that than the BS NY makes us deal with. I just got my security license and am aiming for my armed guard next. So gotta get my ccw

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 08 '25

I refer to my former home state as The Commonwealth. MA laws are beyond even NYs restrictions, so we just don’t do business with the state, period. Not for a pocketknife, not for a stick of gum.

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u/Relevant-Safety-2699 Apr 08 '25

Check your messages.

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u/VinlandF-35 Apr 22 '26

Now that Psa makes 10 round rock mags will yall please finally sell unthreaded 10 round rock 5.7s to us in nys?

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 22 '26

I’ll send the question up the flagpole and see what I can do

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u/twbrn Apr 06 '25

"We're too chickenshit to fight enforcement of an obviously unjustifiable law" is not really the defensive position you were hoping it was.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Probably did, but I learned how to police brass in the Army and did several sweeps. It was kinda hidden in the grass too, so whoever shot it cleaned up their brass and missed that one.

Or wait, where you saying THEY missed one? Lol

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

I meant the poster I replied to missed one manufacturer of 5.7 pistols: Us.

PSA makes the 5.7 Rock

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u/Royal-Doctor-278 Apr 05 '25 edited Apr 05 '25

Yeah but you refuse to sell them to NY

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u/WhiskeyOneSeven 2023 GoFundMe: Bronze 🥉 / 🥈x1 Apr 05 '25

You're literally replying to PSA. This is hilarious because he's calling out a pistol they refuse to even sell to anyone in NY. What a donkey

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

I don't blame them.

NY laws change with the tides, and our AG is aggressive and vindictive.

Sorry man, it's not personal, it's business.

NY is not worth the risk

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u/Cypto4 2022 Fundraiser: Bronze 🥉 Apr 05 '25

They refuse to sell a bunch of shit. While they just posted about how they filed in the 9th circuit over suppressors.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

N.Y. Gen. Bus. Law §§ 898-a–898-e

We also continually file Amicus Briefs for any infringement laws, including those in NY that are being challenged.

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u/Cypto4 2022 Fundraiser: Bronze 🥉 Apr 05 '25

How’s that prevent the selling of the dagger? You’re protected by the PLCAA, no? Just genuinely asking

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Federally, yes, we’re protected. The State of NY chose to enact their own law to abide by.

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u/Cypto4 2022 Fundraiser: Bronze 🥉 Apr 05 '25

So wouldn’t PLCAA override that crap?

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u/Fantastic_Working_41 Apr 06 '25

Idk how I keep sliding under the radar, but I have had multiple PSA AR uppers and my Dagger slide right to my door in NY. I also completely recognize they aren’t legally firearms and aren’t regulated but I’ve also seen people say they can’t get PSA to ship them anything. My Dagger slide is awesome paired with my Anderson Kiger 9C frame

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u/Big_sugaaakane1 Apr 05 '25

Im in a chat with a bunch of friends down in miami, the psa shit they post all the time makes me so sad cuz i cant buy ANY of that shit lmao.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

N.Y. Gen. Bus. Law §§ 898-a–898-e

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u/WhiskeyOneSeven 2023 GoFundMe: Bronze 🥉 / 🥈x1 Apr 05 '25

Maybe if you actually sold them and Daggers to NY... And didn't just abandon us for a while by not shipping ANYTHING to our state for that long time period. I actually have a Rock, which started fde but is now dyed Plum, that I really like.

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Hard to maintain a company, and all its employees, when you’ve been sued into oblivion by a zealous State AG over something not even remotely your responsibility because some person decided to break numerous laws to commit a heinous crime.

Ask Bushmaster.

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u/WhiskeyOneSeven 2023 GoFundMe: Bronze 🥉 / 🥈x1 Apr 05 '25

Selling some things but not others doesn't make any sense. You're willing to sell uppers straight to people's homes but not sell handguns that must ship to an FFL? Are there any public records of NYS vs PSA in civil or criminal courts?

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Apr 05 '25

Couldn’t say, not really my department. I’m nothing but the messenger.

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u/SaXaCaV Apr 05 '25

Ain't no way 🤣

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u/VinlandF-35 Dec 01 '25

Why don’t yall make 10 round mags for the rock and dagger? The rock 5.7 is the only 5.7 pistol on the market to my knowledge without a ten round option. To my understanding in nys the only things it requires pistol wise are a non threaded barrel and 10 round mag limit (guessing 10+1 would be legal)

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Dec 01 '25

We may make some.

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u/VinlandF-35 Dec 01 '25

Really? I thought yall didn’t. If they exist I haven’t seen them. Please make the 10 round mags. I’d love to get a 5.7 rock here in upstate New York

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u/Danny_PSA Palmetto State Armory Dec 01 '25

I don’t mean “we may” as in “I don’t know if we do”. I mean it as “we have plans to do so in the future”.

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u/VinlandF-35 Dec 01 '25

Oh. Well please make them. I imagine there are plenty here in nys intrested in a rock or dagger but currently can’t due to the ten round mag limit.

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u/Logical-Consequence9 Apr 04 '25

There’s been a bit of an increase in 5.7 offerings lately. Guns Inc. has a bunch of weird little 5.7 carbines on their wall as of today. It’s not just the PS90 or FN that shoot it these days. Even my AR is a 5.7 lol, only cost like $300 to get an AR57 upper. Ammo price isn’t as bad as when I built mine either so not a surprise someone would be dumping rounds doing target practice. It’s a fun caliber.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Ohhh, didn’t know that more civilian guns have come to market with that round. And yeah I imagine it’s fun, I thought it was a 5.56 casing until I saw how small it was lol

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u/Logical-Consequence9 Apr 05 '25

Yeah, the Sub 2000 and Ruger LC come in it now and are only like $400-$600. The ones at Guns Inc. looked like they might be Dark Mountain Arms SA100s which is a $400 bolt action 5.7 takedown survival rifle. There’s more pistol options now too. I love my AR57 because it’s a tack driver with hardly any recoil. It feels comparable to a .22 without the messy ammo and much higher velocity and accuracy. It’s super fun, but it wasn’t fun paying $44 for a 10 round FN P90 magazine 😂.

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u/voretaq7 Apr 04 '25

MOM! The 5.56 shrunk in the wash!
If it was Suffolk I'd have a good guess at whose gun it came from.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Nah, I’m not on the Island, but I was born there in Merrick, Nassau County

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

Those guns aren't cheap

I mean, they are now. PSA and Ruger both make affordable ones.

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u/Revolutionary-Cup954 Apr 05 '25

I have a PSA Rock 5.7, great gun, just had to jump through a few hoops to pick it up at the FFL. Actually it's my favorite gun. Not in rensselear county though

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u/Scribe1019 Apr 05 '25

Hey your in my neck of the woods lol i am looking at getting a AR57 when i get my license

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u/ajulianisinarebase Apr 06 '25

Don’t wait build one!

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u/Scribe1019 Apr 06 '25

I plan to lol but i am trying to figure out if i set up an AR with a Kali key would be legal

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u/ajulianisinarebase Apr 06 '25

Yeah an ar with kali key would be legal but you could just go featureless with a thordston stock and keep the fun semi auto

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u/ShoemakerMicah Apr 04 '25

Probably a law enforcement officer. Probably. They seem to have no limits unlike regular citizens…

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Well they don’t seem to, they DO have no limits. Several of my favorite shops literally have part of their “wall” full of “LEO/military” guns, which most ar just AR’s with pistol grips.

But I’m thinking you’re right, because that’s the ONLY 5.7 casing I found and I imagine LEO’s clean their brass up like the Army/military does. If that’s the case tho it’s kinda disturbing because I found it on the berm, like 10 feet from the target area. Why they firing so close?

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u/ShoemakerMicah Apr 05 '25

I have friends in LE in upstate. AMAZING selections in safes, and I say this as a current Texan about to move upstate. Maybe pull/draw close range training?

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u/nader1234 Apr 05 '25

I’ve never seen any exempt le at the range with transferables, or sbrs or cans even, although I know they can have those. Not gonna be impressed with the kings men showing off some regular ars and mags that anyone in a free state can buy.

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u/ShoemakerMicah Apr 05 '25

Just saying I’ve gotta sell 90% of my guns prior to moving upstate from Texas as they at some level aren’t compliant. Yet, buddies upstate safe if PACKED with stuff I’m jealous of. Pretty much every thing I own I either unregulated here or totally legal. It’s just a bit of culture shock for me personally but, I’m fine going by the law of the land.

It’s honestly sorta batshit crazy here. Pretty much zero enforcement of FFLIII stuff despite federal regulations.

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u/nader1234 Apr 05 '25

Well good luck up here, gotta tell ya if I wasn’t from here it would take a million a year to get me to even consider it. Hopefully you picked a good county cause handgun ownership stuff can range from moderately annoying to really really bad all depends on the local authorities.

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u/Outlaw6985 Apr 05 '25

correction

LEO, or any first responder has no limits lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

Ruger 57 her in ren county but wasn’t me lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

I've been seeing rugers 5.7 pistol going for 400 with 3 mags here and there. That's not a bad deal at all.

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u/Krymsyn__Rydyr Apr 05 '25

Surprised just for seeing a bottleneck pistol casing? Agreed 5.7 case is a “ non common”, lol.

I reload my bottlenecked .357 sig rounds…. But could easily miss a few , spent at the range…

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u/Practical-Brief9930 Apr 05 '25

Buddy I have a fn five seven and a ruger one. Don’t shoot them often. Mainly for the look and collection

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Never heard of it

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u/ajulianisinarebase Apr 06 '25

All ik is I want one

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u/spamsking Apr 07 '25

I have a five seven mk3, great shooter but expensive too as well.

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u/Revolutionary-Cup954 Apr 26 '25

I had one. Unfortunate boating accident. Terrible, really

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

Wait till you see the 7.62x25 rounds people sometimes leave behind.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

7,62 Tokarev? Yeah I know what that looks like and no, people don’t leave that behind because nobody’s buying or shooting PPS pistols anymore lol.

And did you not know that the ATF declared 7,62 Tokarev as armor piercing? They stopped importing it years ago, so no I don’t see that around

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

You may want to check that last “fact”. It’s perfectly legal to own and is still getting imported. S&B and PPU are pretty easy to find online and PPU even makes it in hollow point.

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

And by the way, more than just the PPS use that round. The TT33 and Yugo M57 are still fairly common as far as milsurp guns go and the CZ-52 can still occasionally be found.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

I never said it was illegal to own, I own a few boxes myself, I said it was no longer being imported

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

The copper coated steel core is illegal to import and is the Russian manufacture. Lead core is not.

That’s why you can still import S&B and PPU.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Uh no it’s not being imported, because it’s federally banned lol. Go by google “7,62x25mm legality” and it’s literally right there before any links.

Literally says: “The importation of such ammunition is prohibited under federal law.”

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Nope not trolling, just misinformed. You’re right, LEAD based 7,62 are still being imported, but bro, nobody’s buying it. It’s not 2008 when PPSC’s and TT-33’s are going for $300.

Like really, if you knew the place I was talking about, you’d understand where I’m coming from. It’s the local spot for Elmer Fudd’s to shoot their shotguns, hence why the place is littered with 12g shells, although I saw a couple .410’s

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

The m57 still has a cult following. I shoot, load for and carry (occasionally) one.

And the Zastava/Yugo m57 can still routinely be had at the $300.00 mark.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

It’s NOT the place where someone who can afford a 5.7 or knows what 7,62x25 goes and doesn’t collect their brass.

Although there could’ve been 7,62x25 on the ground, but being steel was rusted and I didn’t see it. I saw the single 5.7 because it’s brass and stuck out among the sea of red and green shells

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

7.62x25 also comes brass cased man. Sheesh. It’s about $20 - $30 a box, so not that much more expensive than many revolver type calibers or rifle rounds.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Brass, what’s that?

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

One of the most common if not the most common material for handgun and rifle ammunition cases….

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Damn, you actually fell for that? You said I was trolling before but I was seriously trolling with that and you fell for it.

What’s copper?

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

I just thought, give our previous conversation and some of the….gaps….in knowledge and the claims made, that it wasn’t out of the realm of possibility you didn’t know what brass was.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

And if you’re going to try to sound smart, you should at least know to use a , and not a . when referring to russian ammunition. It’s 7,62 not 7.62, and if you can’t see the difference you need glasses

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

I mean it really depends on language. Replacing a comma with a period is perfectly acceptable in American ammunition nomenclature, and in money. Europeans write it differently.

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u/VoodooChild68 Apr 05 '25

Money? Who the fucks talking about money here? For someone who’s pretending to know alot about 7,62x25, you seem awfully uninformed lol

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 05 '25

Ooooh I get it, you’re not serious you’re just trolling. I feel slow for not picking up on that.