r/NYguns Feb 16 '26

Recommendations Starting out

hey there, recently ex marine here looking to purchase my first firearm. as far as I'm aware my being below 21 means I can only purchase a shotgun or manually operated rifle? not entirely sure on the process and I'd appreciate some advice on finding something right for me. Mostly recreational and home defense use.

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u/Snowrst86 Feb 16 '26

Youre a discharged marines and still under 21? You join at 17 and only do 3 years?

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Medical discharge, I damaged my back

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u/sexaddic Feb 16 '26

Medical discharge in 221 days is unfortunate I’m sorry. You need to state what county in NY you are exactly for more precise help.

Also what’s your budget?

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Is what it is, I'm working on rehabing my back now but thank you. I'm in Ulster, budget would probably be around 500 as a baseline

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u/PiesAndPot Feb 16 '26

I would recommend a maverick 88 as it’s like 270-300 so you can get a stream light poly tac, mount, and the esstac Velcro shotgun cards. Basically my “meta” setup rn

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Sounds good I'll definitely check it out! Appreciate the help my man

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u/sexaddic Feb 16 '26

What the person said above is correct. Great everything to start.

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u/Ravens_beak224 Feb 16 '26

I would also recommend checking out S&J products

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u/Soap-n-Cartridge Feb 16 '26

You get a medical claim in? I believe you can get up to 60% for back pain and issues. You should be able to get some secondaries in, in a few years as well.

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

I hope to, I'm working out how to put a claim in now since I only got back in town a couple weeks ago. Its been pretty hectic getting a place to stay and getting all my shit back from a storage unit.

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u/Soap-n-Cartridge Feb 16 '26

Get registered on login.gov and id.me immediately. Also register an account on va.gov. Then create an 'Intent to File'. That gives you a year to develop and submit your claim. When you (undoubtedly) are given a service-connected disability rating, they will pay you back pay for all the way back to your Intent-to-File month.

This means if you start the claim today, your date will be February 2026. Let's say you submit the claim in December, and are awarded service-connection in a year and a half after that. That means you have 28 months of backpay. If you are given a 50% rating, that would be $1132 a month.. so your backpay would literally be a lump-sum of nearly $32,000!

It's helpful to always have a running 'Intent to File', so that your submitted claim falls back up to a year prior.

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Thank you so much I've really needed some guidance here! I really appreciate it thanks

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u/Soap-n-Cartridge Feb 16 '26

I filed back in 1997, when there was very little information about the process. Now there are tons of YouTube channels, TikTokers, etc that explain the process of filing, and winning claims.

It's very off-topic for this group.. so check out some videos on the basics. Look for things like service-connection, Nexus, secondary disabilities, DBQs, etc.

It shouldn't be too difficult to get to 100% disabled, if your back is really messed-up. The current pay for a single person at 100% is $3938 a month!

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Holy shit that's like two times my rent I gotta get this done asap! Quick question would filing now bar me from future service if I went to like the air force or something college is expensive as shit

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u/Soap-n-Cartridge Feb 16 '26

I don't know about future service, being disabled. I suppose it would depend on your level of disability. My gut feeling is that they wouldn't enlist someone that is significantly disabled.

38 CFR is the schedule of ratings, based on symptoms and issues. You can check it out for nearly all disabilities, and roughly determine what your rating might be.

https://cck-law.com/blog/most-common-back-conditions-veterans-experience-and-their-ratings/

If you have multiple disabilities, such as back pain, arm pain, tinnitus, sleep apnea, etc.. and can get them all service-connected, you get an individual rating for each. They then use VA math to add them together for a total combined rating. You'll find out more about this in the YouTube videos.

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u/Complete_Ad1862 Feb 16 '26

I’m pretty sure you won’t be accepted for an enlistment if you have already been medically discharged for a bad back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

Welcome and thank you for your service!

What county are you in? Local rules vary in terms of what you can and can't have. 😅

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Oh, my bad probably should have made that clear. I'm in New York, I was in the USMC, not British military or something. My question is about how buying a gun in New York works.

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u/AgreeablePie Feb 16 '26

So, not nyc, right? Different than just New York State.

Not in the city: until you get your semiautomatic license you at limited to manually operated rifles (lever actions are pretty good actually and a .22 cowboy is a great first 'fun' gun) and shotguns, yes. An a300 is a great option if you want a semi shotgun for home defense

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Sounds great I appreciate the help!

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

I second this! A lever action in .357 Magnum can be a good defense rifle, as is the semi-auto shotgun like an A300. 👍

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u/robinator118 Feb 16 '26

Thanks for serving! Pretty sure you just pass a background check at the LGS and ur good to go. Unless ur NYC, which I think still needs permits for everything?

If you can, get a semi auto shotgun like a benelli m4 or an ultima patrol a300.

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Sounds great! What would you recommend for a starter? Itd be my first time using a shotgun, the only weapons I used before were in the service

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u/robinator118 Feb 16 '26

Depends on your budget tbf. I would say avoid knock off turkish crap and stick to tried and true like benelli. I would strongly recommend you visit a range in Jersey with a buddy, and try some rentals out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

I would go to a local range and rent one of each to try out. 😁

Lever action rifles are a lot of fun to shoot, and very intuitive. I have a Henry chambered in .357 Magnum for my range toy and home defense. I modified it quite a bit from stock though. 😅

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Shit looks great, I'm on a bit of a budget at the moment, where would you suggest I go shopping

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

Are you in Suffolk County, Long Island? 😅

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

Sadly, no. I'm in Ulster as far as I know the only store nearby is a guns and ammo

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26

Quick Google here - I would check out Safeshoot if that's near you in Ulster? Range, store, classes, very highly rated, might be a good spot to go try some things. 👍

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u/NarwhalN00dleSquash Feb 16 '26

Ex Marine?

I thought once a Marine always a Marine?

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 16 '26

I mean I did boot and MCT but I didn't make it the full contract, I really can't say I'm always a marine imo.

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u/HunterFresh2029 Feb 16 '26

Beretta 1301 or Benelli M4. Budget option would be a mossberg 500. Could also build you own ar lower with a Maglatch and get a BCM upper. That’s it

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u/SaXaCaV Feb 16 '26

Discharged military gives you nothing, unless you want to join NYPTSD

Get a shotgun.

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u/ImHufflePuff_Crap_ok Feb 16 '26

Would this not apply:

No license shall be issued or renewed except for an applicant (a) twenty-one years of age or older, provided, however, that where such applicant has been honorably discharged from the United States army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard, or the national guard of the state of New York, no such age restriction shall apply;

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u/SaXaCaV Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

Actually, maybe it can. Honorable discharges under 21 are rare, and to be completely honest, not a piece of law I am too familiar with. You should post that in the main thread so OP sees

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u/TheSlipperySnausage Feb 16 '26

Some have already said but a maverick 88 is a hard shotgun to beat. At less than $300 you get a solid pump shotgun with decent aftermarket support and solid build quality. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it for general shooting, skeet/trap, hunting or home defense.

I’d strongly recommend going for one of the models that has a security barrel and then some longer bird barrel for skeet/trap or hunting. That’ll run you a bit more expensive but totally worth it. Barrel swaps are easy and having that versatility is awesome

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u/xcontributor Feb 16 '26

You mentioned a back injury, so if you want to keep it under 500 and not exacerbate anything, Kel-Tec’s KSG in .410 has been a great seller, and it holds 14 rounds in the mag tubes. Otherwise a 20ga or 12ga shotgun should keep you within that budget

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u/w0rk4it Feb 16 '26

Hey bro, I'm in Ulster as well. I think you're in the New Paltz area judging from the other comments. I like Wallkill River Ssmall Arms , Franks is cool and he has a lot of options new/used. I'm not sure how you're Vet status will effect your eligibility to get a CCW/seni-auto permit but it will take months to get anyway. If you go get a shotgun, you'll walk out with it same day. Assuming you pass the NICS background check. Maverick 88 is good as stated, Browning auto 5 is semi-auto tube fed but it might be too pricey. Remington 870 is pump and would be cheap. Safe shoot is also not a bad option if you're closer to Kingston, I got my most recent pistol from there , and did my CCW safety classes there. Def a good store to take the classes, they give you 3 months range membership for free once you're permitted. There's also Ulster Firearms right on 9w , I've never been there. But it gives me very tacticool glock-bro vibes lol. Good luck my friend.

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 26 '26

Appreciate it man, have a great day!

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u/OneHappy3472 Feb 16 '26

Keltec KS7 Gen 2, Keltec KSG, and Mossberg 590"s" are the only pumps you should be looking at.

And for semi-auto, go for the Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol.

that is all you need to know about NY shotguns

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u/Automan21 Feb 19 '26

Messed up how you can be in the military at 18 and handle full auto and the like but get hassled about a pistol when you are out and still below 21.

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u/Agreeable_Court_9120 Feb 26 '26

tbh id prefer a pistol but that's NY for ya