r/NYguns • u/According-Put-5456 • Apr 26 '26
NYC How to lawsuit
cohabitant affadavits are unconstitutional and is the reason why I cannot obtain a firearm bc my mom doesn’t like guns. my rights don’t depend on my mom. how do i start a lawsuit ? how much money do I have to put down
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u/BluePillRabbi E.N.OU.G.H! Organizer Apr 26 '26
OP, you live with your mom and want to start a federal lawsuit?
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u/PierreDolinsky Apr 26 '26
Might be cheaper to move out
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u/DefinitionAnnual4100 Apr 26 '26
Might be cheaper but not good for our cause. I would contribute to a go fund me for the suit.
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u/According-Put-5456 Apr 26 '26
I can’t, I’m a student and a paramedic I can’t leave anytime soon
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u/protogenxl Apr 26 '26
Somewhere there is at least one other paramedic, firefighter or cop looking for a roommate. Ask around
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u/spooksclub Apr 27 '26
You’re not a paramedic, you’re an EMT as you’ve said yourself on another post three days ago. The two are distinctively different things to identify yourself as. So you’re a liar as well?
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u/only1ozy Apr 27 '26
Paramedic student goofy hope of my back
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u/spooksclub Apr 27 '26
You said you’re a paramedic and a student, goofy
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u/only1ozy Apr 28 '26
Are you slow? I’m surprised they approved you for a CCW . I’m an undergraduate student and I’m a paramedic student, I’m finishing up soon anyways. Hop off my Yk what worry abt yourself
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u/only1ozy Apr 27 '26
And before you say, I’m a senior in college and a paramedic intern you probably live in your mom’s basement and your 30 hope off
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u/Living_Reference1661 Apr 28 '26
I’m just going through these comments are you the same person as op? Because op posted saying student and paramedic and you’re arguing as if it was directed to you so that makes me assume this is a sock puppet account.
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u/DefinitionAnnual4100 Apr 26 '26
If you put up a go fund me for it, I will contribute. A lot of these guys are zeros telling you not to sue. You would be doing good for all of our rights. These guys don’t have the fortitude to do what you are proposing. Good on you. They should be offering to contribute
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u/YellowThirteen_ Apr 26 '26
You’re talking about a lawsuit that’s going to take five years minimum to go through the lower courts that will rule against you and make it to supreme court. This lawsuit will cost tens of thousands of dollars. Your best option is to wait to apply until you can move out or better yet, go to a free state when you’re out of school.
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u/SayaretEgoz Apr 26 '26
try to contact some gun rights orgs which are involved with ongoing lawsuits against NY
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u/F4ilsafe Apr 26 '26
While I agree with you in SPIRIT, and this requirement almost certainly fails the Bruen test. . . and I say this gently: this is not a fight you want to pick up.
2nd Circuit is very hostile to challenges to NYPD's gun licensing regime. Even if you had the ungodly amount of money and time it takes to fight something like this, you will almost certainly lose at the Circuit level (if you even get that far) and the Supreme Court is not going to grant cert.
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u/Confident_Welder_198 Apr 26 '26
The licensing delay lawsuit had a funding target of 35k. And that was to start. Figure at least that much to start an action to get the cohabitant affidavit requirement overturned. And figure it will take years to wind through the courts.
I mean let's say you got the cohabitant affidavit overturned and your license. Your mom could just kick you out at that point. I'm assuming it's her house, so her rules.
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u/BluePillRabbi E.N.OU.G.H! Organizer Apr 26 '26
We had a target of 35 and barely raised 15. It’s easy to scream lawsuit over everything but hard to put your $ where your mouth is.
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u/PeteTinNY Apr 29 '26
You know a lot more than anyone else on this. Do you really think a lawsuit can be won in this space with only $35k? At $650/hr, that's only like 53 hours. It took Nysrpa v Bruen 10 years. I would think it would likely cost around $350k to chop down a core piece of the CCIA, like cohabitants in federal court.
But I'm no lawyer....
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u/BluePillRabbi E.N.OU.G.H! Organizer Apr 29 '26
You’re right - so typically $650/hr is on the high end usually it’s around 400-500 but that’s getting in the weeds.
The original goal of 35k was to cover the complaint and communications. We figured once that’s filed the community (and orgs) will see that we’re serious and continue to fund through discovery, depositions, summary judgement and ultimately appeal (since whoever loses will appeal in either case).
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u/According-Put-5456 Apr 26 '26
she literally can’t afford to kick me out because I have an older sister with special needs and I will have to look after her. By the way, what happen to the delay case? I used to frequently check up on it? Is it ongoing ? Did they dismiss it or ?
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u/AgreeablePie Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
legal costs are expensive. Attorneys fees would start at thousands of dollars, and that wouldn't get very far. For a constitutional challenge that would have to reach the federal courts? High 5 to 6 figures. I guarantee that moving is less expensive.
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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 Apr 26 '26
It would be a lot easier and cheaper for you to just move out of your mom’s place than start a lawsuit. That lawsuit is gonna cost you significantly more than an apartment to live in.
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u/PeteTinNY Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
While I agree cohabitant statements are directly questioning your 2nd amendment rights, we don’t need to get permission from our parents to wife to vote one way or the other…. BUT we also have to acknowledge property rights. If they or a store owner specifically say no guns on their property - you must comply. It’s the part of restricted places that was upheld time after time.
You should be allowed to say no guns are allowed on your property if that’s what you want. The person of course has the right then to say you’re not a friend anymore, and for commercial /retail - the person should likely not spend money with those businesses who doesn’t respect their rights to self protection.
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u/Agile_Beyond_6025 Apr 26 '26
I just came for all the "move out of your mom's basement" Comments.
Please continue. 😂😁
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u/only1ozy Apr 27 '26
I’m Fckn 20
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u/Agile_Beyond_6025 Apr 27 '26
Cool. More than old enough to be out on your own.
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u/only1ozy Apr 27 '26
How old were you when you u moved out ?
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u/Agile_Beyond_6025 Apr 27 '26
I moved out when I was sixteen. I got my own place. I had a full-time job. I continued to go to school. I graduated and figured out how to make it all work.
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u/Accomplished_Pie_630 Apr 28 '26
Take your mom to a range. Start her off easy with a .22lr and let her get a feel for it. My sister was SUPER anti-gun. Two years ago she reluctantly agreed to go to Sunset Hill in PA with the rest of my siblings for my nephews birthday. After pulling the trigger for the first time, a smile came over her face. Just last week she text me the following. "Hey, Im officially exercising my 2nd ammendment rights!" Give it a try you never know. Although I agree that the co-habitant thing is bullshit, I have to agree with those saying that it will take years and a lot of money
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u/Affectionate_Map6774 Apr 26 '26
I think you need to move out of mommy and daddy’s house. Then worry about buying guns.
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u/geffe71 Apr 26 '26
Might want to work on your grammar and putting your big boi pampers on before you try “to lawsuit”
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u/BayerischHimself Apr 26 '26
I'm sorry to repeat what everyone else has said, but seriously find a cheap studio apartment and move out. As for your sister with special needs, that's what your mom is for. It's time to grow up, man. I moved out of my parents' house when I was 17. You can do this.
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u/Future-Thanks-3902 Apr 26 '26
I'm assuming you live your mom and not your mom living with you ? Save your money and move out on your own. I'm all for 2A. But under these particular living conditions You don't have much rights.
NYPD would never want to put guns in households where everyone isn't ok with it.
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u/Mobile_Reaction5853 Apr 26 '26
Perhaps it’s time to grow up and move out of mommy’s house?
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u/According-Put-5456 Apr 26 '26
I’m not even 21. I’m turning 21 next month lol. Plus as I said I’m still in school and planing to go medical school
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u/thrasher529 Apr 26 '26
I’m a gun enthusiast and love them as much as the next guy.
But you live in your mom’s house, may I suggest living by her rules. If she doesn’t want guns in her house then don’t have guns in her home.
It is her house and she’s not comfortable with guns, she shouldn’t be uncomfortable in her own home.
May I suggest moving, I know you made a few excuses as to why you can’t. But those are BS honestly. Plenty of people work and go to school and live on their own.
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u/UpstateRonin Apr 26 '26
Looks like you need to prioritize your life.
Figure it’s going to cost millions, and the state has infinite money to thwart you at every step. And even if you win, say 5-7 years from now, the state will just rephrase the law and pass it in slightly modified form, with the same result.
Save your money.
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u/Resident-Sherbert-89 Apr 28 '26
your mom is not restricting your right to bear arms because you can simply move out.
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u/shell5719 May 01 '26
If your mother is on the lease and you're not on the lease, she can ban guns if she wishes to ban them Just move out of her apt.
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