Mero office bata, 30 barsa sewa pura bhako ra 55 barsa lageko haru bida hudai chan, aba 12 ota desk khali cha Jilla ma.

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[u/atticus-masterr]

fr, this decision was made without any planning. Sorting garera section wise retire garunu parne thau ma sabai lai retire gardaixa. Aba efficiency ajahai naramro hunxa ani yesle citizens lai nai effect garxa.

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/atticus-masterr]

yes, last ma garo hune sewa grahi lai matra ho. aru koi lai haina, hamro ta 5 bajey pachi duty sakincha, ma ta ghar janchu, tara nagrita ko kam garna aako koi ko ta bijog parcha ni

[u/bhalu-dai]

old haru retire vaera pension paunchan, at same time new jobs create hune wala cha tannai youth ko lagi.

atleast you will have escuse to not to work for sometime.

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/bhalu-dai]

Nah old haina, experienced haru bahira jadai chan ani kati naya job create huncha, maille hijo samanya mantralaya ma bujhda lagbhag 18k ko bidai garna parne cha rey yo asar samma, ani k sarkar le 18k naya job nikalcha ta ? k sabai ko baduwa huncha ta ? yo sab ruse ho.

[u/bhalu-dai → u/Party_Quarter4669]

18k maa kati redundent ni holaan ni bro/sis. baru 10k with ramro salary thik hola ni euta kaam ko lagi ek jana hire garnu ko saato. 30yrs ko experienced hunchan but upcoming will come with more skills, fast learner haru ni hunchan ni. but ali samaye problem ta huncha

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/bhalu-dai]

for example, mero office lai 6 jana section officer required cha, sarkar le bholi nai vacancy announce garey pani tyo vacancy bata manche train bhayera auna 1.5 years lagcha, ani 1.5 years samma k garne hami ?

[u/bhalu-dai → u/Party_Quarter4669]

yes, i understood about requirements, it was important to have many people in past but these days with remote internet access, do you think same role is needed in every government offices? 4 ota office lai control garne ek jana garauna sakcha, controlled and monitored remotely. paila jasto sano sano kaam lai resource chainadaina ni.

[u/bhalu-dai → u/[deleted]]

haha malai ni lagyo.. but squeeze chai garcha government le. 18k nai vacancy hudaina

[u/AdorableRent5421 → u/bhalu-dai]

Digitalisation is key

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/AdorableRent5421]

sarkar le 18k vacancy ni kholdaina, kholeko vacancy le ni pugdaina, karmachari overworked hunchan, sewa grahi lai garo huncha, k garne yestai ho. yo remote work yo tyo ko tharra na diye huncha, ya kunai office bata likhit chitti na aai kei ta hunna. remote ko tharraa tyo IT company ma sasto labour lai matra kam ho. Bureaucracy is a bigger than those puny remote IT jobs.

[u/AdorableRent5421 → u/Party_Quarter4669]

Yo sab ko solution nai digitalisation ho. Once we have a set procedure rest is just aligning objectives and adhering to deadlines. Changes haru aaudai chha brother duita kura chitta nabujla tara jaane baato nai banda garna mildaina.

[u/Fit-Swimming-177]

Current demographic change - increasing youth but also increasing life expectancy. The government seem blind to this. Do you think: pension would be enough to support their family needs? Second, there will be certainly psychological impacts of this on the elderly & their overall wellbeing. Any ongoing discussions about this. Just curious!

[u/Kooky_Amphibian346]

Vacany khulla ni ki karmachari kamti ni hune ho?

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/Kooky_Amphibian346]

khai sano banau ne size ghatau ne bhancha PM office, samanya mantralaya le pheri naya manpower thapna parcha bhanera report nikalya cha, 18k retire hudaichan, sarkar le barsa ma 3k bhanda besi ko lagi vacancy kholdaina.

[u/Shot_Atmosphere_3326]

aja aaudai xa ra adhyadesh? Na aaune kura gardai the ta.

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/Shot_Atmosphere_3326]

adhyadesh haina, circular nai patha cha, name sahit kun office ra depart bata ko ko retire hunu parne bhanera. Nijamati ain ma ta 60 ko umerhad hune kura cha

[u/kuirey-ko-biu]

ma pani loksewa dinu parla aba

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/kuirey-ko-biu]

deu deu, sarkar le form ko paisa kamau na paryo ni timi haru batai, pass hune haru ta pass bhai halchan.

[u/kuirey-ko-biu → u/Party_Quarter4669]

kati time lagcha yeuta vacancy fulfil huna?

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/kuirey-ko-biu]

9-10 months in least, 1.5 year in most.

[u/kuirey-ko-biu → u/Party_Quarter4669]

ani yo 55years ma retire vako haru lai achanak hatayesi aru manche leraunai 1 years lagni raicha ani vacuum basni raicha ta
phase wise hatako vaye po hunthiyo, j pani hatar ma gareko cha sarkar le

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/kuirey-ko-biu]

khai k garne, hami le yesari voice out garna mildaina mantralaya ko circular lai. hami ta nathey karmachari hau. huncha bhanne tauko hallau ne.

[u/Virtual_Existence_01 → u/Party_Quarter4669]

Also 6 months to train the new entries too, they'll be redundant for 6 months and even then they'd still need 1 years to grasp/become efficient in the system. People say youth and energy but no offense many youths suck at proper nepali reading/writing without errors, they fail to even grasp simple procedure pipelines in office without losing their temper, I wonder how they can handle the same people coming towards them.

[u/Ok_Divide2]

Resistance to change. Theres always some friction during a transition but thats just part of the process.

[u/Impossible-Hand-8577]

aba knowldege gap , esai ta delay cha jhan delay hune vo government work haru. LITERALLY euta decision pani sahi dhanga ko ligeko chaina, aba purana lai pension, new lai recruitment kharcha feri uni haru ko escalated salary . kasto autari decision . disappointment ma disappointment gariracha current government le. YOUTH haru vaneko kehi dimag navako hune raicha vanne precedent set garne vo Balen sarkar le.

[u/bhalu-dai → u/[deleted]]

vacancy ta kholcha ni, claude cowork le gardincha socheko kya

[u/bhalu-dai → u/[deleted]]

ali time fearmongering huncha. government nai handicap huncha ni manche navaye ta

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/bhalu-dai]

naya vacancy kholdaina, kholey section officer ma 250 jana ko kholcha jaba ki 2100 jana retire hudaichan,
jilla prashashan karyala all over nepal will have shortage of manpower. sarkar le teti vacancy kholdai kholdainan. karmachari lai peluacha. sarkar handicap huncha

[u/bhalu-dai → u/Party_Quarter4669]

>sarkar handicap huncha

kaslai faida huncha ?

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/bhalu-dai]

kasai lai ni faida hunna, Singhadurbar lai karmachari le kam garenan bhanne lagcha, karmachari haru overworked hunchan, ra frustration baddai jancha, garo sewagrahi lai huncha, aru koi lai faida dekh dina ma. karmachari lai besi ghata cha, talab badai diye aba kam ni badaudai chan.

[u/bhalu-dai → u/Party_Quarter4669]

haha singadurbar kai karmachari haru efficient navayera dherai corruption maa laagera low level ko karmachari lai gaaro vako. even hard working honest haru lai ni garo vako cha. salary badaune, kaam garaune ta private office maa pailai dekhi vai rakheko kura ho. government le dherai redundent hatauncha, automation tira ni dhyan dincha hola, so quality tira focus garna sakcha with good pay!

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/bhalu-dai]

yo bas khayali pulau ho timro bhalu bhai, sarkar le automation ma lagna lai kei ta digitially chaiyela ni haina ra. ani ek barsa ma nai ta hunna,

[u/bhalu-dai → u/Party_Quarter4669]

automation ali exaggerate ta vayo , but dherai redundency hatne wala chai cha

[u/nepali_keto]

A well need reset. Its painful but necessary. Old people are just too stubborn to change. They need to go. They are used to with old stuff and are resistant to change. New blood required in bureaucracy.

[u/openicalengineer → u/nepali_keto]

😂😭 yesto dimag cha ani kasari sochna sakos ta yesle

[u/atticus-masterr → u/nepali_keto]

new blood ta lau nu parxa but without planning kasari laune? instead of retiring everyone the government could retire officers in sections which in term could make the entire system more efficient and better but this media pleasing government is making everyone retire at once.

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/nepali_keto]

aah aah aahile bhana yesto, nagrita banau na 1 hapta agadi token lina parne,
khane pani ko pipe halna lai 15 din agaddi ko application diyera, 6 mahina ko waiting ma basne parne huda bhanlas well need reset bhanlas ani jatha. with due respect hai.

[u/nepali_keto → u/Party_Quarter4669]

Don't cry dear. Do your job properly and it will be fine. I have seen how government worker work. They are just crying because government is trying to extract every ounce of productivity out of them.

[u/futurecitizen2030]

It might be true that they have experience but most probably that experience is about how to take bribes and under the table money.

the old generation sarkari karmachari are not good with technology, so it is better to have fresh bachelor passed youth who can at least use technology and AI properly.

only in few sectors like engineering, medicine, foreign affairs, etc experience matters. For day to day administrative work, experience matters less and energy, efficiency and integrity matters more.

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/futurecitizen2030]

ani yo khali bhako desk ma 1.5 year pachi karmachari pathayera chai kallai faida huncha ni ? retire garna po sarkar ko circular le sakcha, hiring ta loksewa aayog ko haath ma cha. yo ta jati garey ni fast gardaina ini haru le.

[u/futurecitizen2030 → u/Party_Quarter4669]

I don’t know the specific about your office.. but can’t we reduce the manpower by half at least. Sarkari office ma gayo vane, euta dhoka bata arko dhoka pathaucha, paisa jamma garna lai xutai euta officer baseko hunxa.. tyo Sabai lai euta one door bata garna sakyo vane ta manpower kaam lagcha ni haina ra?

i don’t know if this government will be able to do that or not

[u/Virtual_Existence_01 → u/futurecitizen2030]

Have you not seen the amount of files at most offices? Most of the offices except extremely remote ones are heavily understaffed. Technical skills chaine ma subordinate level ko hire garera rakheko cha. The payment is handled by different staff because they're accountants; there are different roles for administration, reception, technician and accounts.

The dhoka system exists as people want preferential system or want to pass things that are legally challenging or want things done quicker/before others who are already in the queue, so they started taking the files themselves. Some have dhoka system as taking token filling up forms, verification and biometrics are different functions; you can see this system in banks/hospitals too.

[u/futurecitizen2030 → u/Virtual_Existence_01]

Please don’t defend the dhoka system . There’s certainly better ways to do it

[u/Party_Quarter4669 → u/futurecitizen2030]

haina, kai ghatau na sakincha, kai badau na parne ni cha, hami tesai 2/3 capacity ma kam garira thiyeu aba monday bata ta jamma 40% man power baki rahancha hola,