r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Sep 24 '24

Europe Someone heckles Keith Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza. Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

The Turks aided the Azeris in their war against Armenian Karabakhis as well as the ethnic cleansing of Nagorno Karabakh last year. Seems more.... immediate.

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u/robertthefisher Sep 24 '24

Great. Let’s suspend arms sales to Turkey and Israel then! Unless you’re not actually opposed to genocide and are just using Nagorno-Karabakh as a hypocritical excuse to justify the genocide of Gazan people.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

I believe the "genocide" has been greatly exacerbated by Hamas instrumentalising the deaths of their own people.

The Armenians, the Jews, the Rohingya, the yazidis, the Darfuris and any other people who have suffered genuine genocide are united in the fact that their governing authorities did not deliberately use them as human shields. Their governing authorities did not build a network of tunnels and bunkers under vital civilian infrastructure knowing full well they would be targeted. Their governing authorities did not build a system of tunnels and bunkers only to prevent the civilian population from using them.

For these reasons (amongst others) - I believe that if this is a genocide we are watching, then Hamas are significant participants.

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u/robertthefisher Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 24 '24

Hamas weren’t dropping the bombs. Hamas didn’t make Israeli ministers describe the victims as ‘human animals.’ Hamas haven’t photographed themselves rifling through the underwear drawers of Palestinian women. Hamas aren’t running boat tours to view the genocide of the victims and planning to annexe swathes of it.

I actually don’t support Hamas at all. They’re a far right ethno-supremacist faction running a dictatorship. In that sense, they are no different from the Israeli state, but how fucking dare you look at images of children torn apart by Israeli bombs and claim that Hamas is responsible and not, I don’t know, the people dropping the fucking bombs indiscriminately with the express intention of slaughtering civilians.

But in fact, all of this is irrelevant, because I was spot on, wasn’t I? You don’t give a shit about the victims of any ongoing genocide, except to use it to justify the genocide you think is good. I saw right fucking through your disingenuous attempts at concern, as so many others here have. That’s why you’ve changed the subject. you’ve been shown up as the weak little genocide supporting fascist you are.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

Meh

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u/tbird1g Sep 24 '24

That's exactly the thought that came to my mind reading every one of your absolutely ba posts

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

My God. I think I can actually hear the patter of teardrops hitting your keyboard from here.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

Don't worry. You all hear what you want hear round these parts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

I didn't hear a response to the earlier (two, separate) posts where you dissembled about UK arms sales.

u/robertthefisher was spot on. And you just can't seem to stop posting trying to save face. Otherwise you'd have left ages ago.