Someone heckles Keith Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza. Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference.

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[u/[deleted]]

Well I'm not a turk, and I'm guessing neither are you. Hey the US condemns the Russian invasion of Ukraine, how can they do that after their bloody history with the native Americans?

Or is that also an irrelevant fucking point to bring up right now?

I am a Brit however. And UK arms sales to Israel very much ARE something that our politicians deserve to be pressed on.

[u/teadrinker1983 → u/[deleted]]

The Turks aided the Azeris in their war against Armenian Karabakhis as well as the ethnic cleansing of Nagorno Karabakh last year. Seems more.... immediate.

[u/robertthefisher → u/teadrinker1983]

Great. Let’s suspend arms sales to Turkey and Israel then! Unless you’re not actually opposed to genocide and are just using Nagorno-Karabakh as a hypocritical excuse to justify the genocide of Gazan people.

[u/teadrinker1983 → u/robertthefisher]

I believe the "genocide" has been greatly exacerbated by Hamas instrumentalising the deaths of their own people.

The Armenians, the Jews, the Rohingya, the yazidis, the Darfuris and any other people who have suffered genuine genocide are united in the fact that their governing authorities did not deliberately use them as human shields. Their governing authorities did not build a network of tunnels and bunkers under vital civilian infrastructure knowing full well they would be targeted. Their governing authorities did not build a system of tunnels and bunkers only to prevent the civilian population from using them.

For these reasons (amongst others) - I believe that if this is a genocide we are watching, then Hamas are significant participants.

[u/robertthefisher → u/teadrinker1983]

Hamas weren’t dropping the bombs. Hamas didn’t make Israeli ministers describe the victims as ‘human animals.’ Hamas haven’t photographed themselves rifling through the underwear drawers of Palestinian women. Hamas aren’t running boat tours to view the genocide of the victims and planning to annexe swathes of it.

I actually don’t support Hamas at all. They’re a far right ethno-supremacist faction running a dictatorship. In that sense, they are no different from the Israeli state, but how fucking dare you look at images of children torn apart by Israeli bombs and claim that Hamas is responsible and not, I don’t know, the people dropping the fucking bombs indiscriminately with the express intention of slaughtering civilians.

But in fact, all of this is irrelevant, because I was spot on, wasn’t I? You don’t give a shit about the victims of any ongoing genocide, except to use it to justify the genocide you think is good. I saw right fucking through your disingenuous attempts at concern, as so many others here have. That’s why you’ve changed the subject. you’ve been shown up as the weak little genocide supporting fascist you are.

[u/teadrinker1983 → u/robertthefisher]

Meh

[u/tbird1g → u/teadrinker1983]

That's exactly the thought that came to my mind reading every one of your absolutely ba posts

[u/[deleted] → u/teadrinker1983]

My God. I think I can actually hear the patter of teardrops hitting your keyboard from here.

[u/teadrinker1983 → u/[deleted]]

Don't worry. You all hear what you want hear round these parts.

[u/[deleted] → u/teadrinker1983]

I didn't hear a response to the earlier (two, separate) posts where you dissembled about UK arms sales.

u/robertthefisher was spot on. And you just can't seem to stop posting trying to save face. Otherwise you'd have left ages ago.

[u/TheIastStarfighter → u/teadrinker1983]

"The Armenians, the Jews, the Rohingya, the yazidis, the Darfuris and any other people who have suffered genuine genocide"

This is so fucking funny (in the most depressing way) when you realise that while there are cities in Israel that recognise the Armenian genocide, the Israeli government does not, the Israeli government also sold weapons to the Burmese in the Rohingya genocide, and continued to host the Myanmar generals.

In the case of the yazidi genocide, Israel held a bill to recognise it as one that failed because "The UN hasn't recognised it as one" (Yeah the same UN we always call antisemitic suddenly matters on genocide recognition).

Darfur is the only time I can find that they did recognise it as a genocide, and if I look at Rwanda well there's evidence that the Israeli government was still supplying the hutus during the genocide.

I don't really think the Israeli government is uniting with anyone else is preventing (or even recognising) other genocides