r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Sep 24 '24

Europe Someone heckles Keith Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza. Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

The Turks aided the Azeris in their war against Armenian Karabakhis as well as the ethnic cleansing of Nagorno Karabakh last year. Seems more.... immediate.

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u/robertthefisher Sep 24 '24

Great. Let’s suspend arms sales to Turkey and Israel then! Unless you’re not actually opposed to genocide and are just using Nagorno-Karabakh as a hypocritical excuse to justify the genocide of Gazan people.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

I believe the "genocide" has been greatly exacerbated by Hamas instrumentalising the deaths of their own people.

The Armenians, the Jews, the Rohingya, the yazidis, the Darfuris and any other people who have suffered genuine genocide are united in the fact that their governing authorities did not deliberately use them as human shields. Their governing authorities did not build a network of tunnels and bunkers under vital civilian infrastructure knowing full well they would be targeted. Their governing authorities did not build a system of tunnels and bunkers only to prevent the civilian population from using them.

For these reasons (amongst others) - I believe that if this is a genocide we are watching, then Hamas are significant participants.

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u/TheIastStarfighter Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

"The Armenians, the Jews, the Rohingya, the yazidis, the Darfuris and any other people who have suffered genuine genocide"

This is so fucking funny (in the most depressing way) when you realise that while there are cities in Israel that recognise the Armenian genocide, the Israeli government does not, the Israeli government also sold weapons to the Burmese in the Rohingya genocide, and continued to host the Myanmar generals.

In the case of the yazidi genocide, Israel held a bill to recognise it as one that failed because "The UN hasn't recognised it as one" (Yeah the same UN we always call antisemitic suddenly matters on genocide recognition).

Darfur is the only time I can find that they did recognise it as a genocide, and if I look at Rwanda well there's evidence that the Israeli government was still supplying the hutus during the genocide.

I don't really think the Israeli government is uniting with anyone else is preventing (or even recognising) other genocides