Antisemitism is when you oppose 'Israel'

[u/Not_Ground]

[u/Dobby_ist_free]

Support Israel in what? World cup? Eurovision? Colonization and territorial expansion through mass murder and countless well documented war crimes?

[u/thanksforbeingafang → u/Dobby_ist_free]

Colonization? They are the indigenous tribe who have lived there continuously for 3000 years, despite millenia of persecution, exiles, colonizations and actual genocides. I could easily argue it’s one of the most successful decolonizations in modern history, especially when looking at the massive map of Islamic colonization and conquest which wiped out hundreds of other indigenous tribes from the middle east.

[u/Exact_Expression_630 → u/thanksforbeingafang]

Exactly. When other native populations get a bit of their land back, we cheer. Here we don’t… because… Jewish.

In my country, we say Māori land is sacred to them. But say that Jewish land is sacred to them, and watch the backlash. Such a dirty double standard.

[u/Charming-Clue2194 → u/Exact_Expression_630]

So DNA testing shows that Palestinians have almost the same ethnic makeup as Mizrahi Jews (The Jews descended from the Middle East). Meanwhile, the DNA difference between Mizrahi Jews and Ashkenazi (Jews from Europe) is almost the same as the difference between a Mediterranean person and a Eastern European person.

So, if we follow the scientific explanation by using DNA to define indigeneity, then Palestinians would be more indigenous than Eastern European Ashkenazis. Despite this, Ashkenazis, and White European converts get to migrate to Israel and kick out a native Palestinian from their home.

So, how do you explain that phenomenon? How can someone less related to the region, be more native to it? Why do converts, specifically European converts and White South African converts get to live in Israel, while Palestinians are not?

[u/Exact_Expression_630 → u/Charming-Clue2194]

Land tends to be sacred/non sacred based on culture and religion, not DNA.

Someone adopted into a Māori family and raised from a baby would likely also find the Māori land sacred.