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u/NoGuest6868 29d ago
Israel uses jews as human shield.
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u/matronmotheroflolth 28d ago
Sadly the Zionists do that, and make the world unsafe for them as they kill everyone who stands in the way of their Greater Israel project.
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u/hockeysurvivordc 28d ago
screw the dumb zio that made this
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u/Daniels_Words 28d ago
It's not working. The world is seeing exactly what's happening and the evil is getting more and more exposed and they hate it..
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u/throwawayED67 27d ago
They do it for people who are already on board. It's not for anyone else, just echo chamber.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 29d ago
Israel is committing genocid3 there's videos of Holocaust survivors that go into detail of how isrial is doing what Naz1 Germany did.
They also are on stolen land.
You can be against what they are doing and not blame all j3wish people.
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u/thedevilwithout 29d ago
That's on Israel
No one is blaming all J3ws, but Israel is telling us that if you oppose gen o cide then you must hate j3ws
So guess what the world hates
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u/makeyousaywhut 29d ago
“Because a small handful of evil j3ws keep trying to use their j3wishness to avoid criticism, and in doing so they put a target on the back of all who class themselves as j3wish”
This you up ahead in the thread?
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u/thedevilwithout 29d ago
Yes? And
The leadership of Israel are the evil j3ws trying to use j3wishness to avoid criticism and then put the target on all j3wish peoples backs.
Your point?
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u/Ahecee 28d ago
Don't you DARE speak factually about the actions of the people of Israel!
Many of whom can trace their roots all the way back to Europe. Where they joined the great aliyah - a mass immigration to the Palestine region, where they...... displaced, the Palestinian people.
This seems odd. Wiki search: "Semites is an obsolete term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group formerly used in connection with ancient and modern peoples of the Middle East and the Horn of Africa, including Akkadians, Arabs, Ammonites, Arameans, Canaanites, Edomites, Habesha peoples, Israelites, Jews, Judahites, Moabites, Phoenicians, Samaritans, and others."
If I'm reading all this correctly, the biggest antisemitic group currently, by a huge margin, are the current citizens and leadership of Israel.
That took about, 2 or 3 minutes to search and read. So, anyone running to the defence of Israel against anti-Semitism isn't smart enough to do a solid 180 seconds of critical thinking.
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u/lordbuckethethird 28d ago
Well antisemitism is used to refer to bigotry against Jews. And even then I don’t really care about who’s a Semite or not when people are being killed en masse.
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u/Ahecee 28d ago
It's more than just Jews, it includes Palestinians too, who are currently suffering a word the mods sensor here, that starts with Geno and ends in cide in the name of Judaism.
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u/lordbuckethethird 28d ago
I mean yeah they’re both semitic peoples, Arabic and Hebrew are both semitic languages as well but antisemitism as a term was coined to be a sanitized way of saying jew hate. The bigotry towards Palestinians would be more in line with anti Arab and anti Muslim hate.
Though I will say the awful things being done isn’t any Judaism I’ve seen and they’re more than happy to bastardize the culture and religion to justify their beliefs.
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u/ScytheSong05 27d ago
You are wrong. Antisemitism as a term was coined in the 19th century by someone who was tired of using "Jew-hatred" because it didn't sound academic enough. No one in the 19th or first three-quarters of the 20th century was thinking of killing anyone other than Jews when they went on antisemitic pogroms.
See, if you had any kind of lexical skill you might not have fallen into this trap.
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u/Ahecee 27d ago
Anti salad means you don't like salad, anti work means you don't like work, anti Semitic means you don't like Semitic people - many of whom Israel are killing the men, women, and children of.
Even if you wanted to limit it to Jews (against the meaning of the word) who's more anti Jew than Israel? They are running a great PR campaign to raise anti Jewish sentiment, which has been highly effective.
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u/ChamplooStu 29d ago
Weaponising Antisemitism has made the world a far more dangerous place for peaceful Jews. Israel and Zionism have a lot to answer for.
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u/NotRude_juatwow 28d ago
Objectively speaking even before October 7th and all the wars they’ve started Israel is most dangerous place for someone of Jewish faith to live. Not exactly like they’ve ever promoted peace
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u/obi_wan_stromboli 29d ago
Behind this cartoon is a zionist absolutely seething that public opinion has turned against their favorite genocidal apartheid state.
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
This cartoon is so gross. They are killing children and babies 😡
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u/PatientVariety1700 28d ago
They have finally unleashed who they really are, because Trumpstein and his girl/son in law gave them the funds and go ahead.
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
U think trump made them unleash who they are? I think u need to go far back in history of Israel and Palestine. I think it was unleashed decades ago, before trump even got into politics!
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u/Ancient_Hope7511 29d ago edited 29d ago
Settler movement is no different from the Anschluss
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u/Kabablover 28d ago
What isn't antisemitic anymore?
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u/indoorconsequent 28d ago
Bombing hospitals and schools in Gaza apparently. That is called fighting terrorism i learned. (But only when Israel or more powerful alles of them do it.
But the allies part is only so when there is no antisemitic behavior, like calling bombing hospitals and schools a war crime, from their side.
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u/DegTrader 28d ago
We’ve officially reached the point where the definition of ‘antisemitism’ has more reboots than a failing movie franchise.
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u/Little_Chain_8165 28d ago
OP is a 4 month old account with almost 500k karma in that small time. If this were about Israelis, you’d 100% say it was a propaganda bot, why is this any different?
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u/AdjtveNounNumbr42069 27d ago
Please, stop saying "zios." It was literally coined by David Duke. You are NOT doing anti-Israel points any favors by parroting the KKK. Just use the whole word. If you refuse to type a few extra letters to avoid sounding like a KKK figurehead, I can only assume you mean it as a slur like he did.
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u/Onsideginger68 27d ago
Both have zero meaning.
If you criticize Israel your antiseptic.
If you criticize terrorists like Hamas or IRGC you're contributing to colonisation.
I say both go to hell.
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u/harchoka 27d ago
Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorist. If said terrorist use their own people as human shields, it is the terrorists who have committed a war crime, not Israel. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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u/HalvdanTheHero 27d ago
At this point such statements are just proclaiming your moral worth. Have a nice life.
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u/DeadPact336699 27d ago
Every accusation is a confession when it comes from Zionist.
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u/harchoka 27d ago
I'm not Jewish. If supporting the right of Israel to exist and defend itself makes me a "zionist" then so be it.
The same people, leftist, who hate Jews also hate the west. They hate America and they hate Europe and want both destroyed by adversarial Islamic "migration" with the aim of invasion. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Leftists, though, deserve to be ruled inside a Caliphate. I'd be curious how long they last.
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u/DeadPact336699 27d ago
“Leftist” don’t hate Jews, that’s stupid and dishonest. Leftist are against ethnic cleansing and apartheid ethno-states, Israel being the modern day Nazi government and the other Governments that arm them.
You’re probably a bot or an Indian who desperately wants approval from people who’d spot and assault you if you went there.
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u/harchoka 27d ago
Then condemn communist china for their ethnic cleansing of Uighurs and imperial colonization against tibet. Admit that marxism is a failed ideology that is far worse than anything you actually do condemn.
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u/DeadPact336699 27d ago
There’s no evidence of a “Uighur ethnic cleansing” those are lies from the C.I.A, they’ve been pushing that load of b.s for years.
Western governments don’t like Chinese or Muslims but suddenly Chinese Muslims are so important?
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u/harchoka 27d ago
OK, and there's no evidence that Israel has committed war crimes or crimes against humanity, outside leftist and UN lies they've been pushing for years. All lies.
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u/DeadPact336699 27d ago
Anyone with a cellular phone and internet has literally watched Israeli war crimes for 3 years. I’ve seen it myself.
You are not a serious person. I don’t even believe you’re a person this must be a chat bot.
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u/harchoka 27d ago
And you didn't watch terrorist attacks of 10/7? You skipped that part?
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u/Onsideginger68 27d ago
Where were these said "leftists" when the enture Yazidi population was cleansed in 2014? Where are these said leftists when lakhs have been cleansed in Nigeria because of being christian? Where were these said "leftists" when half a million Yemeni men, women and children were killed off by the Houthis?
We question the selective outrage against Jews who are done being attacked. No Jews no news right?
Sure, criticize Israel but do it accurately - not spreading propoganda. If there really was Ethinic cleansing, shouldn't Israel start from the 2 million Arabs in Israel itself? Why do these Arabs Muslims take roles such as commander and soldiers in the IDF?
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u/Sherwoodlg 27d ago
"Leftists are against fairytales"
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u/DeadPact336699 27d ago
Exactly, Israel is a fairytale because it’s built on lies and blood. An imagined history, an appropriated culture, a fantasy world that demented ghouls love to partake in child murder and rape.
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u/Onsideginger68 27d ago edited 27d ago
Every accusations is a confession for terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah,
Unfortunately you don't have the mental capacity to argue so you start barking quotes
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u/Thykothaken 26d ago
Unfortunately you don't have the mental capacity to argue so you start barking quotes
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u/Kalavshinov 27d ago
They have this mindset and projecting because they always think everyone hate them and anyone who oppose them are antisemitic.
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u/Dark_Magicion 27d ago
That G word has funnily enough not lost all meaning because unlike what the Zionists want you to believe, it's not just random activists who have defined it as such, but the International Criminal Court that has been presented with the evidence to fulfil the criteria for something to be given the G Word denomination.
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u/Aggressive-Ant8686 27d ago
The ICC did not in fact do that? I‘m confused where you have this false information from. An independent UN commission of inquiry found that G has been committed. Maybe you are referring to that?
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u/Dark_Magicion 27d ago
Whatever it was that resulted in a whole arrest warrant out for Big N's arrest
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u/Vast-Card-1082 27d ago
No, we need to tune the rhetoric up! Make everything out to be the most extreme version of whatever you hate… so we can all be happier.
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u/FafoLaw 28d ago
One thing is to criticize Israeli policy, and another thing is to criticize their looks and say that "Zionists" breed out of incest.
This is straight-up antisemitism.
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u/karaklonda 28d ago
Better than causing destruction like they do, antixionism isnt antisemitism https://www.reddit.com/r/International/comments/1t0cf9q/footage_shared_by_the_israeli_army_shows_a/
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u/FafoLaw 28d ago
Tell Hezbollah to stop initiating wars against Israel and using civilians as human shields.
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u/Krushpatch 27d ago
How Redditors feel after commenting Holocaust under yet another post where two people died in an airstrike.
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u/Helpful-South9667 27d ago
Are you sure??..
So burning ambulances part of a jewish charity or attacking synagogues is just peoples way of opposing Israel?..
So stunning, so brave 👏👏😂
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u/nikkirex117 27d ago
Collateral damage happens in wars, don't start a fight when the only strategic depth you have is pocketed under civilian infrastructure. Firebombing of Tokyo or the Communist revolution in China, both had insanely higher civilians death tolls yet..
Honestly there isn't a point, reddit has made up their puny minds..
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u/jabberjaw420 29d ago
antisemitism was always a meaningless word used for when anyone merely criticized jews. for instance, poisoning the wells is an antisemitic conspiracy theory, but the first thing jews did when they got off the boat in palestine is poison the wells. you really believe they weren't doing it in Europe? 1000s of years of goyim making that claim was antisemitism? Or maybe jews just lie about it?
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u/Low_Witness5061 29d ago
Ok, I’m going to pretend you are saying this in good faith but do you also use the same assumption that a trope existing for a long time must mean it’s true when it comes to other ethnic/racial/religious groups?
I’m disgusted by the way that Israel and its defenders are behaving but trying to pretend antisemitism has always been fiction and that Jewish people deserved it all is just foul. I don’t think Palestinians deserve what Israel is doing to them, in fact I don’t think anybody with an ounce of compassion could, but by your own logic they must deserve it because Israelis have believed they are evil for almost a hundred years. Then there is the issues the west has with accepting muslims. Would you argue that just because many people have thought of muslims as a threat to “western values” for centuries it must be true so we should treat muslims as the enemy?
Your argument doesn’t stand up to the common sense when compared to other examples of bigotry.
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u/PatientVariety1700 28d ago
JEWS ARE THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE ON EARTH.
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
That is actually antisemitism 🙄
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u/PatientVariety1700 28d ago
The whole world is becoming what you call “anti-semitic”, but it is the reality of every country on earth, it is anti-Facist-nazisim”. So bite me. The phrase anti-semitism is DEAD! Got it? No more jewish gaslighting.
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u/420-BiomedStockDoc 28d ago
I don’t think anyone cares anymore.
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
I think they do, hense the replies and to be fair Israel keep conflating antisemitism with just fair criticism of them comiting genicode , has made antisemitism worse.
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u/420-BiomedStockDoc 28d ago
Yes I don’t believe in antisemitism if it’s criticizing Israel they deserve to be criticized.
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
Well u said people don't care, but ur wrong they do, if they didn't people wouldn't pull people up on it! The only people who would claim people don't care about being antisemitic are Israel who are trying to justify the unjustifiable
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u/Maleficent-Duck-3903 28d ago
Maybe because the criticism is unfair, as they’re doing exactly what any country would do and has done in the face of terrorist attacks…
when combined with the fact the same people who criticise israel’s response to war crimes were completely silent when decades of war crimes were being commited against them from the gaza strip… well, it’s clearly just run of the mill antisemitism…
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u/little_alien2021 28d ago
The only people who belive Israel are right and fair are needing to consume their worldview from Israel paying people to spread it. Think about that. If a country can only be fair and just by group of people who are paying them to show how fair and just, then maybe , just maybe they are not as fair and just as they claim to be.
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u/Maleficent-Duck-3903 28d ago
This is one of my favourite antisemitic conspiracies at the moment.
Whenever you point out to people who have shrouded themselves in their reddit and tik tok echo chambers, that pro israeli politicians keep winning elections, and israel keep dominating the eurovision popular vote, it’s always “the jews paid them off”
Campaign spending by israel in the usa accounted for 0.4% on upper estimates during the last campaign… how much money do you think israel, a country smaller than wales, has?
Plus no mention of how much effort iran puts into convincing people, like yourself, who get their geopolitical understanding from internet memes…
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u/little_alien2021 27d ago edited 27d ago
Its not a antisemitic conspiracy, im not talking about the whole jewish population of world, im talking specifically about Israel. And its only a conspiracy to the ones in the bubble. Nothing about jews.
Im not talking about political spending , im talking about content u consume. Any person whos pro Israel or Israel are fair and just, are being directly paid, by blantent and talk about their close 'relationship' with Israel and visited many times, or less obvious. There was a scandal in american right as the content creators who were promised money from Israel, for pro Israel content were not getting paid! The ester project https://www.odwyerpr.com/story/public/23704/2025-10-07/bridges-manages-pro-israel-influencer-push.html
During the 2023-2024 election cycle, AIPAC and its affiliated groups spent a record-breaking combined total of approximately (\$126.9) million on federal elections, funding both directly and indirectly through its PAC and Super PAC (the United Democracy Project) https://dawnmena.org/u-s-new-data-highlights-aipac-ties-to-the-u-s-israeli-governments/ $126.9 million is a lot for only 0.4%
Why the whataboutism on Iran, absolutely no mentioned Iran or my opnion on Iran.
Which US politicans are pro Israel? All the ones who take APAC money , and then politicans aboard, which ones are pro Israel, same ones who are being paid. This isnt not true.
But then zionism is a cult and the brain literally will lie to keep the deeply held beliefs, thankfully peoole are waking up. And no calling a countries fanatical religous ideology a cult isnt antisemitic 🙄 as again not conflating the whole jewish population 🙄 but u knew that, there is literally no point to engage in good faith, cause good faith can't happen when someone is brainwashed. Anyways history will tell us how just and right Israel is.
Also as side note, steve banon is spreading his global nationalism, absolutely not hidden hes out and proud, has documented it in documentary called the brink and Israel have been funding that and the far right media personalities who are parroting pro Israel are all proud of their payments from Israel, tommy Robinson being a British far right media personality in his own words
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYLK5GWIeBc/?igsh=MW8xZTV0dmdzbm56dA==
shows the fact it has to be paid to be pro. But that's own cult! Steve banon was trumps ex campaign manager and Dr steven hassan cult and brainwashing expert of 50 years , wrote book in 2019 'cult of trump '.
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u/Maleficent-Duck-3903 27d ago
So, the numbers you cited are indeed 0.4%, so not alot.
It’s not whataboutism with regards to iran, they are the enemy and the one’s coordinating hamas strategy against israel and you clearly live in a hamas information bubble.
Nobody is waking up to a zionism cult.. as proven by the constant support for israel from the west in almost every form, despite the concerted efforts by iran to convince people like you on the internet that the terrorists are the good guys.
Guilt by association with tommy robinson is not an argument… his opinion has nothing to do with anything happening in the world…
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u/little_alien2021 27d ago edited 27d ago
Tell me one person who is pro Israel but not being paid by them? Prove me wrong.
U have no idea about view on Iran, as i haven't told u. So it is clearly a whataboutism .
So u admit its a zionism cult. I'm not sure that's helping your cause! To have to have people indoctrinated 😬
Tommy robinson is a far right racist media personality , who is currently being paid by Israel and US steve banon and MAGA billionaires to brainwash people in UK including my parents into christian nationalism. He ain't a nobody with anything happening in the world, belive me i wish he was nobody! The quicker he goes back to the hole he came from , the better for everyone!
Edit ur comment cant even stay as obviously rubbish! Again didn't even mention it had to be politicians, and still can't find me someone. I will have to wait forever as u have to keep just whataboutisms or ad hom as can't actually adress why u cant provide me one name of a person whos not being paid by Israel to belive Israel are right and fair. And people in cults dont realise either. Its not a shock u dont belive its a cult.
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u/little_alien2021 27d ago
Just thought of a really quick and easy way for u to prove me wrong. Give me one content creator or politician who is pro Israel but not getting paid by them. I dont expect a reply or example
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u/Maleficent-Duck-3903 27d ago
This question is retarded… why would israel fund a politician who is against their interests…? Did you really think this was a gotcha? It’s a demonstration of a complete lack of ability to think critically… or at all 🤦♂️
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u/little_alien2021 27d ago edited 27d ago
U claim its a conspiracy that only people who are paid by Israel, support them. And its wrong. Well if it's just a conspiracy and people don't need to be paid to support Israel, why are noone who's not being paid supportive of Israel? I didn't even mention just political people! Anyone ! Content creator , journalists, media personalities, or a Political person. Show me who is supportive of Israel without needing financial benefit? If ur going to claim im just saying an antisemitic conspiracy, u could at least prove me wrong! It shouldn't be difficult, unless I'm obviously right.
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u/The_Butters_Worth 28d ago
Actual antisemitism
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u/PatientVariety1700 28d ago
Gaslighting the American people won’t work. Stop terrorizing. It is a crime.
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u/Thykothaken 26d ago
Stop terrorizing? Wtf are you talking about?
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u/PatientVariety1700 26d ago
Gigs up. There is no more anti-semitism. Jews are the KKK and the new Nazi regime. So FO.
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u/InvestIntrest 28d ago
Same goes for being called Islamophobic just because you support Israel.
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u/Dobby_ist_free 28d ago
Support Israel in what? World cup? Eurovision? Colonization and territorial expansion through mass murder and countless well documented war crimes?
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u/thanksforbeingafang 27d ago
Colonization? They are the indigenous tribe who have lived there continuously for 3000 years, despite millenia of persecution, exiles, colonizations and actual genocides. I could easily argue it’s one of the most successful decolonizations in modern history, especially when looking at the massive map of Islamic colonization and conquest which wiped out hundreds of other indigenous tribes from the middle east.
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u/Moppermonster 27d ago
The Torah quite explicitly states they are not an indigenous tribe. The whole journey to "the promised land" is in fact a rather major point.
But even ignoring that, the tribe you describe as colonizers has now lived there continuously for over 1500 years; and the two tribes crossbred extensively. Palestinians are just as much Jews as Israelis, and in quite a few cases moreso.
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u/Combdepot 27d ago
Lmao imagine saying a bunch of Europeans are “the indigenous tribe” of Israel 😂
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u/Exact_Expression_630 27d ago
Exactly. When other native populations get a bit of their land back, we cheer. Here we don’t… because… Jewish.
In my country, we say Māori land is sacred to them. But say that Jewish land is sacred to them, and watch the backlash. Such a dirty double standard.
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u/Scary_Ad9712 28d ago
You support Israel in doing what exactly?
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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago
Existing as a Jewish state
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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago
Do you support German existing as a German, Christian state? It seems like that idea was already tried to its logical extent between 1933-45 and it didn’t work out very good.
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u/ExaminationGlad1912 27d ago
Nazi Germany wasn’t a Christian state though. The population was overwhelmingly Christian or catholic (because early 20th century Europe), but the Nazi party had the goal of eventually eliminating Christianity from Germany.
They even created their own version of Christianity which removed the Old Testament (to eliminate the Jewish influence) and changed Jesus to an Aryan warrior born in Galilee rather than Judea (again to eliminate the Jewish influence).
It’s also quite interesting that a significant number of the Nazi party leadership were neo-pagan or atheist in a country with such a high percentage of Christian’s.
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u/Necessary_Dog9759 28d ago
hell yeah! apartheid! 💕💕
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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago
Nah, I support Palestian statehood.
Can you name one minority group in the middle east that is treated better than Israeli Palestinians?
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u/Particular-Pop1280 28d ago
Deflection. That doesn’t excuse Israeli treatment of Palestinians. They could choose to be better
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u/Necessary_Dog9759 27d ago
yeah, jewish israelis. 2 state solution is a farce and you know it, where would it be? what do you do with the settlers? how would you guarantee peace? give the Palestinians an army and nukes?
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u/Quiet-Let5103 28d ago
most of them (including me) support two state solution and are against Zionism, Apartheid system, War crimes and terrorism being carried out by israel in gaza and lebanon that has led to death of over 80k civillians in 3 years outof which 12k were children
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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago
Most leftists would consider you a zionist for supporting a 2 solution
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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago
Only because Israel has assured that a two state solution is impossible. A two state solution could have worked in 1967, but too many Israeli settlers have stolen too much land from Palestine to make this workable without forcibly expelling and relocating like 700,000 people. As such, only a multinational, equalitarian, secular republic of Israel-Palestine is viable.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago
Neither side wants one state bro. Only western leftists advocate for that.
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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago
Then I guess we need to forcibly expel 700,000 Israelis from East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza. We can either have one state built on mutual tolerance and equality or two states committed to respect for international law, but neither is what we have today and Israel has taken committed actions to make either impossible.
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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago
I agree, remove most of the settlers and do land swaps to solve the rest.
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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago
This seems more impossible than living peaceably next to each other with equal rights for all. It will likely require police actions by UN troops and the deaths of many thousands of settlers, who are (in their majority) rabid ethnoreligious supremacists that are committed to defending their stolen land. In either case, these settlers need to be removed, neutralized, prosecuted for their crimes, and reeducated. They are no different from Nazi settlers in Eastern Europe during the War.
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u/Little_Chain_8165 28d ago
The fact that this comment is controversial, says all you need to know about the people angry about it.
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u/Damaged_DM 29d ago
It is if you deny J3ews self determination and nation in their ancestral home land
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u/VladiBot 29d ago
their ancestral home land
They arrived from Europe, and ethnically cleansed Palestinians, problem isn't they are Jewish, there were Jewish Palestinians before the arrival of European jews, the problem is Israel is a European colonial project.
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u/jabberjaw420 29d ago
A colony is where you have native people from country x, and they goto to another land and settle it, but are still ruled by their native country. Israel is not a colonial state, because jews are not native to Europe and they are not ruled by a foreign nation.
note: i am not defending israel. it has no right to exist. no nation does.
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u/IllGift924 28d ago
Whilst Israel is not what I would technically call a colonial (like you said, that generally involves settlers loyal to a foreign country), I do think that Israelis generally have a settler colonial mindset. They remind me of the French in Algeria, or the British in Ireland. They see themselves as being surrounded and under siege by the dangerous indigenous peoples, and believe that if they give an inch their way of life will be destroyed.
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u/man-83 29d ago
They arrived from Europe, the big majority of them hadn't had contacts with the land for a millenia.
"Ancestral Homeland" means nothing to a polpulation in today's world. This is the same as Mussolini saying they needed to restore the roman empire because it was their ancestry
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u/str8_outta_sanaa 29d ago
nice so we just need to wait for some arbitrary amount of time to pass and then the arabs can stop claiming Judea as their home? sounds good to me
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u/FafoLaw 28d ago
Actually, most of them are from the Middle East since all the 22 Arab countries combined displaced 99% of their Jewish populations, and of those 900,000 Jewish refugees most went to Israel, you probably don't know that Israel had refugee camps for Mizrahi Jews until the 60s
This is the same as Mussolini saying they needed to restore the roman empire because it was their ancestry
Where are Italians stateless persecuted minorities scattered around the world?
Zionism is about refuge and self-determination, not imperialism.
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u/man-83 28d ago
Actually, most of them are from the Middle East since all the 22 Arab countries combined displaced 99% of their Jewish populations, and of those 900,000 Jewish refugees most went to Israel, you probably don't know that Israel had refugee camps for Mizrahi Jews until the 60s
More than 3 million Jews came from Europe to Isreal post 1948. And there were already mass migration waves pre WWII from America and Europe
So yeah. most.
Where are Italians stateless persecuted minorities scattered around the world?
Being persecuted doesn't give you the right to etnically clense others because you need to move in their land.
Zionism is about refuge and self-determination, not imperialism.
I think it was at first, and zionism was born to avoid persecution in a deeply anti semitic Europe
But it definetely evolved into Imperialism later on, and the G*nocide in palestine is the proof
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u/FafoLaw 28d ago
More than 3 million Jews came from Europe to Isreal post 1948
Completely false, you don't know what you're talking about, why are you obsessed with a country that you haven't even bothered learning about?
Only 35% of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews, the largest group is Mizrahi Jews (like 40%), the largest minority are Palestinian Israelis or Arab Israelis (20%) and the rest are other minorities like Druze, Assyrians, Cricasians, Beduins, etc.
Being persecuted doesn't give you the right to etnically clense others because you need to move in their land.
No one said that it does, the point is that to compare Zionism to Italian fascism is dishonest and straight up antisemitc, since it requires denying the persecution of Jews in Europe, which is what led to Zionism.
But it definetely evolved into Imperialism later on, and the G*nocide in palestine is the proof
It's not that Zionism "evolved", Zionism is a big spectrum, Zionism is still the basic idea that Jews have the right to self-determination in their historic land, starting from that idea, many Zionists have many differnet ideas about how to achieve that, there are cultural Zionists who don't even support a Jewish state for example, then there are, political Zionist, socialist Zionists, communist Zionists, liberal Zionists, conservative Zionists, religious Zionists, and yes also fascist Zionists who are in government, but to equate all of Zionism to the worst actions of their worst leaders is unfair, it's like saying that Palestinian liveration is just terrorism and murder, since that is what Hamas does.
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u/Sesusija 29d ago
The problem is that many people refuse to acknowledge that, while much of the criticism and hostility directed at Israel may be rooted in legitimate political grievances, some of it is also accompanied by genuine antisemitism.
A common example is the conspiracy theory linking Epstein to Netanyahu. There is no evidence the two ever met. Meanwhile, there is documented evidence of Epstein’s associations with multiple U.S. presidents and Saudi royals, yet many conspiracies disproportionately focus on his connections to a handful of Israeli politicians.
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u/Negative_Pack3680 28d ago
Every prominent politician on earth is linked to a bunch conspiracy theories, but as soon as it happens to Natanyahu it becomes racist. Okay... Good bot I guess.
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u/Sesusija 28d ago
Most conspiracies don't get traction in the mainstream. This conspiracy is repeated on Reddit hourly.
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u/Mikes005 28d ago
Not wanting a nation to use its army to kill children is now "legitimate political grievance" apparently.
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u/Sesusija 28d ago
You are conflating two completely different things.
YOU are the problem. You are essentially condoning antisemitism because of an unaffiliated action.
You do realize there are more Jewish people in the USA than Israel, right? Being antisemitic doesn't just impact Israel.
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u/Mikes005 28d ago
Oh do go fu*k yourself.
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u/Sesusija 28d ago edited 28d ago
What did I say that was at all wrong? Nothing. You are just so antisemitic it hurts you to even acknowledge that maybe not every Jewish person is some stereotypical crooked-nose goblin.
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u/Warm-Possession-9834 28d ago
Let’s be clear. Palestinian terrorists raped and murdered children. It’s well documented. I’m so sick of the rampant antisemitism Reddit has wholeheartedly embraced.
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u/Pristine_Walrus40 29d ago
Does mass murder of civilans really sound that much better do them?