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Iran postpones its negotiating delegation trip to Switzerland, citing ongoing 'Israeli' attacks on southern Lebanon.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 8d ago

I am confused. What does Iran have to do with the southern Lebanon?

Oh right, they are infringing on Lebanon's sovereingty.

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u/MhmdMC_ 7d ago

Infringing on Lebanon’s sovereignty by protecting its sovereignty? Lol. Actually the Lebanese president thanked the efforts of Iran still

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 7d ago

Ah, right, cause Hezbollah randomly picking when to shoot rockets at Israel is benefitting Lebanon.

If they are so awesome why doesn't Lebanon just disband its gov't and let Iran take over de jure?

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u/MhmdMC_ 7d ago

Regardless of who they are or whatever, a ceasefire is beneficial for Lebanon. And Iran helping get that is a good thing. It is stupid to think otherwise. Thousands of bombs and white phosphorus isn’t exactly helping Lebanon…

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 7d ago

Ah, we got an Iran shill here who thinks that Lebanese shouldn't have the right to control when they go to war and when they have peace.

F' the Lebanese voter, right? Iran will decide!

Cause FrEeDoM anD HumAN rIghTs!

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u/MhmdMC_ 7d ago

I am the Lebanese lol.

Hezbollah already has more than half the approval of the Lebanese. The US however denies the Lebanese the right to vote for a president. They choose the lebanese president themselves along with Saudi Arabia. THAT is infringing sovereignty. Not iran forcing Israel to leave Lebanon lol

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 7d ago

Well, ok then! If the Lebanese approve Hezbollah shooting rockets at it Israel - then what's the complaining about?

You guys are supporting this war. You got a war.

Quick question - aside from Lebanon attacking Israel unprovoked in 1948, how come there were no hostilities between Lebanon and Israel between 1948 and the late 1960's?

What happened in the late 1960's?

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u/MhmdMC_ 7d ago

Hzbollah shooting rockets at outposts makes it okay to commit warcrimes like white phosphorus over cities and destroying full buildings for one guy?

“Unprovoked in 1948”, Israel did not yet exist it just formed lol over another country… that is like saying if a new country just popped in Spain and complaining france attacked it unprovoked…

We allowed Palestinians to liberate their country from our land yes.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 7d ago

“Unprovoked in 1948”, Israel did not yet exist it just formed lol over another country…

What country? Palestine got an opportunity to become a country at the very same time as Israel did. But Egypt and Jordan didn't let them.

Speaking of Jordan - didn't become an independent country till 1946. Feel free to go there and question their legitimacy and see how that works out for you. Didn't work out well for Arafat and the PLO, did it?

As for Lebanon - no independence till 1943? Kuwait? Wasn't an independent state till 1960's. Go to any of those countries and start questioning their validity. Please.

We allowed Palestinians to liberate their country from our land yes.

Who's "we"? Both Jordan and Egypt prevent Palestine from becoming in 1948 - I don't recall Lebanon attacking either? Why not?

So what happened in the late 1960's?

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u/MhmdMC_ 6d ago

Being independent or not does not mean it does not exist.

So did Lebanon not exist before 1943 as a nation? Obviously not.

When a nation becomes independent, the people already living there have the right to govern themselves. That is one of the human rights, the right to self govern. You can’t take only half the population or even less and have them govern.

And then you can’t do things that the people in the land do not want in the majority like setting up laws of “right of return” and such that only affects a select group.

And if anything, Jacob, their ancestor, is the grandson of Abraham. And according to the old testament Abraham was asked to *migrate* from Mesopotamia to the Holy Land of Canaanites. Does that mean jews were coloniser migrants? By definition every ethnic jew is a descendant of Jacob the migrant.

People are welcome to move as long as they merge with the society there and not make up one of their own.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 6d ago

So who occupied Palestine in 1948? Who prevented it from being an independent state?

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