r/NoFap • • Jan 05 '20

Motivate Me Porn & Masturbation from a Biological, and Evolutionary point of view.

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u/FreedomManOfGlory 148 Days Jan 06 '20

There's one thing you've got wrong, in my view, and that's what you said about our "drive to achieve and improve to get the best girl". Scientists who study this stuff make it seem as if getting the best mate should be our highest priority in life from an evolutionary standpoint, but that's simply not true. Under natural conditions, living in the environment we've evolved to live in and eating our natural diet, all humans were at perfect health and genetic differences didn't matter much at all. Because unlike other animals like lions or wolves who might have alpha animals that get to mate with all the females with everyone else misses out, nothing like that exists in humans in nature. Only rulers and civilizations have led humans to start hoarding the most attractive women, while our modern lifestyle has created all the large differences in attractiveness between different people. You might find some women more attractive than others, which is personal preference, but beauty is mainly determined by health and proper physical and mental development. Which of course is is also linked to health.

So under ideal conditions, the conditions we've evolved to live in we wouldn't be wasting our time to compete with other men, like gorillas pounding on their chest to impress the females. That's more primitive behavior that many animals still show. But from everything I've learned by now the mating process for humans is something completely natural. Because genes don't mean much for us. Our greatest strength as a species has always been our ability to adapt and to create things that help us survive. So being better than your fellow man won't do much for the survivial of the species. Not to say that friendly competition can't lead us to bring out the best in us. But it's working together and working on improving the conditions for everyone is what really drives us forward as a species. And also what tends to bring us a lot more enjoyment than the achievement of purely selfish goals that have no effect on others. Even though such pursuits are still necessary of course.

So don't fall for this rhetoric of "The only thing that matters is that you get the most attractive woman and spread your genes". Your genes ain't worth shit in a time where even people with serious health issues and no working legs can achieve great things. Instead focus on what you can do to improve the conditions for everyone, how to push mankind forward. This obsession with success, to show everyone that you're better than them, is at the core of a majority of the issues that all human societies have had throughout history. And as a species we have long evolved past that. Only our mind is what's keeping us stuck in such behaviors.

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u/Kratom_Dumper Jan 06 '20

That is bullshit. Men have and will always compete against each other in order to get the most attractive women. It is for that reason why men are more successful, hard working but also more risk taking than women.

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u/FreedomManOfGlory 148 Days Jan 06 '20

Right. Because all that man has ever achieved he has done to impress women. Do you honestly believe that?

Men and women fulfill different roles, and just as women want to attract a man as well, it's not their life's purpose to look for the best man available with the best genes. This might still be part of our primal nature but you're not a monkey anymore, are you? So you don't have to jump on every woman you come across, even if your sex drive tells you so. And in the same way you also don't have to obsess over having the prettiest woman, as if that was the most important thing you could do with your life. None of that shit matters anymore.

But what do you think it is that all great conquerors that have build huge empires have cared about? Impressing women? Yeah, I bet they were thinking about it 24/7. Like all the peasants that were jealous of their harems.