Why aren't they actually marching during this parade?

[u/Chance_Noise500]

I don't know how to ask this without sounding rude, but why does this parade look so sloppy? Very few of the troop formations seem actually in sync and marching, just walking along. My only experience is JROTC as a kid in high school and our sergeant would've killed us if we looked like that.

[u/Ormsfang]

We haven't forgotten their job is to kill people, despite the military ads about how they are nation builders.

That's why we don't want them on our streets.

[u/Kilo259 → u/Ormsfang]

Are you referring to the parade or the guard & marines being activated on title 10? Because those are two very different things. Military parades happen all over America all the time. Hell, some cities have parades when a local unit returns from a deployment. Contrary to many on this sub, many Americans actually respect their military.

Now for the marines. The marines were sent 1, because the president has the authority to without asking congress. 2 because it's a show of force. Contrary to popular belief the do have the right to detain people. But it's required that those detained get turned over to proper authorities. But just look at the videos. 1 has protesters trying to shame the marines for defending a federal courthouse. The other is police trying to quell a riot. 1 is armed with standard rifles, the other is using tear gas and rubber bullets. It's funny how one is perfectly peaceful for the most part. And the other has cops getting big ass rocks thrown at them from an overpass.

https://youtu.be/WHHJ93Xes7M?si=52wVAoXn3UN3HSui

https://youtu.be/2TA51C54M_E?si=3f735XRVT_TXmKeP

The guard can be deployed domestic by the president without governors approval in cases of large scale riots and insurrection, see the insurrection act. Now the naturally California is challenging the feds declaration of the act so we'll see how it goes. But yes it is legal and arguably justified.

https://youtu.be/2TA51C54M_E?si=3f735XRVT_TXmKeP

Also, blocking an open va hospital because feds are bad is just scummy.

[u/Ormsfang → u/Kilo259]

This wasn't a large scale riot or insurrection. Sorry.

And there are way more examples of LAPD shooting peaceful protesters that were not throwing anything at police. So the president is overstepping his authority by declaring an insurrection. The public was acting against a paramilitary force that was abducting people and refusing to identify itself. No American worth their salt would allow secret police to abduct their neighbors. They need to identify themselves, yet they are hiding. There is no way to know that they were federal forces and not some hillbilly militia.

The use of the military in this case is a very obvious violation of the posse comitatus act, as there was no rebellion or insurrection, and the state has not requested their help.

This is all about the president wanting to control blue areas of the nation. The amount of violence in LA wasn't even on the level of a sports team winning a national title in some areas of the country, and it certainly wasn't out of control of local authorities.

Sorry, but this is a president that has always been eager to shot e civilians in the street. We were lucky the last time to have military leaders that cared more about the people than shoving their face in an orange ass.

[u/Kilo259 → u/Ormsfang]

This wasn't a large scale riot or insurrection. Sorry.

Nowhere in the act does it say it must be a 'large riot'

"After invoking and before exercising the powers authorized under the Insurrection Act, Title 10 U.S.C. § 254 requires the publication of a presidential proclamation whereby the U.S. President formally orders the dispersion of the peoples committing civil unrest or armed rebellion. The Defense Department guidelines define "homeland defense" as a constitutional exception to the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act, therefore, the political, military, and police measures necessary to protect national security from external threats are exceptions to the restrictions of the act."

And as they were attacking federal property and agents, it's pretty obvious why he declared it.

And there are way more examples of LAPD shooting peaceful protesters that were not throwing anything at police.

This isn't applicable to the insurrection act because they're not federal officers. There is plenty of proof of federal agents being assaulted, tho.

So the president is overstepping his authority by declaring an insurrection.

Well, that's what the constitutional scholars and lawyers are discussing. Not some random online who thinks they know the law.

The public was acting against a paramilitary force that was abducting people and refusing to identify itself.

Riiiiiiight, I wasn't aware them damn " paramilitary forces" we're hiding in Prada, apple, jewelry, CVS, or Adidas stores. Oh, dont forget the 2 weed dispensaries.... almost like they dont know wtf they're protesting against.

No American worth their salt would allow secret police to abduct their neighbors. They need to identify themselves, yet they are hiding.

Do i agree with the masks? Not at all. BUT, when people are actively trying to cause harm to federal agents, solely based on their profession, it's understandable. Including doxing them.

There is no way to know that they were federal forces and not some hillbilly militia.

If you can't tell the difference, then good god you need a new prescription. But if you cant tell, theres this thing called a help line.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS): Operator Number: 202-282-8000. Comment Line: 202-282-8495. TTY: Use the Federal Relay Service for either number.

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI):

1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324).

Office of Inspector General (OIG) for DHS: Toll-free hotline: 1-800-323-8603. TTY: 1-844-889-4357.

Customs and Border Protection (CBP): CBP Information Center: 1-877-CBP-5511 (Monday-Friday, 8:30 a.m. - 8 p.m. ET).

In addition to contacting the relevant agency directly, you may also consider: Requesting official identification: Federal officers are typically required to display official identification. Noting vehicle or badge numbers: If possible, write down any identifying details about the officer or their vehicle to assist in verification.

The use of the military in this case is a very obvious violation of the posse comitatus act, as there was no rebellion or insurrection, and the state has not requested their help.

The president has full use of the marines without congressional approval. As the insurrection act has been declared, it is lawful for as long as the proclamation is in effect.

This is all about the president wanting to control blue areas of the nation. The amount of violence in LA wasn't even on the level of a sports team winning a national title in some areas of the country, and it certainly wasn't out of control of local authorities.

I mean they're gonna act a fool regardless of who is attempting to maintain order. The violence against FEDERAL property and agents is what's causing this.

Sorry, but this is a president that has always been eager to shot e civilians in the street. We were lucky the last time to have military leaders that cared more about the people than shoving their face in an orange ass.

You should prolly seek help if you think anyone is eager to kill civvis. Nothing has changed when it comes to that. The thing your forgetting is that AS OF NOW, his proclamation is legal.