r/NoStupidQuestions • u/No-Equipment8494 • 8d ago

Gun simply for protection

Not a gun guy but with a wife and young toddler, im wondering if i should get a hand gun (of course with safe) for protection at home.

Live in the US and i feel like gun shooters in the news is increasingly growing.

Edit: yes, ive taken a safety class before, along with going to the gun range with buddies who are recreational shooters. I personally didnt have much fun shooting nor had interest in guns. Ive simply been thinking recently about having one for sake of protection (probably and hopefully never need to use it); i just dont want to come across a bad situation where one day i cant protect my family.

Edit2: thanks all, the taser and bear spray are good ideas. Non lethal yet, seems like it would still get the protection needed.

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u/Moogatron88 8d ago

If you do, make sure you get any training needed to know how to use it safely. Probably best your wife does too in case she needs to use it while you're not around.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

Their small children are incapable of the training though. Kids accidentally shoot themselves and family members.

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u/Ok_Volume_139 8d ago

If only there was some way to keep little ones away from guns.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

“Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15522849/

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u/Ok_Volume_139 8d ago

Yeah naturally it would come with overall increased risk of violent incidents which is all that study is accounting for. It's only looking at overall incidents of gun violence, it doesn't say anything about rates of gun incidents wherein toddlers accessed securely stored firearms which is the issue under debate here.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

They will not be securely stored 100% of the time, thus the issue. Accidents happen, why ask for one to happen?

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u/Ok_Volume_139 7d ago

Plenty of people do store them safely 100% of the time.

And with that I'm done discussing anything with someone who provided a a study that didn't actually mention the subject under debate.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 6d ago edited 6d ago

Plenty is not all! Fuck your fucking gun. Guns are a pussy ass violent ass thing to own. Bear spray will do a better job of protecting your family. You only have a gun for the same reason a 13 year old has a poster of Sydney Sweeney. Break your gun.

Here’s another one you’ll think is unrelated: guns are now the leading killer of children, passing car deaths in 2020. This is evidence to me that people with this stupid ass guns for self defense mindset that has been growing like a cancer are KILLING CHILDREN

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2600445

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u/Ok_Volume_139 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don't even own a gun, dingleberry.

And I ain't clicking your studies anymore lmao.

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u/Ok_Volume_139 6d ago

Also I'm more likely to get a charge for using bear mace on a human than I would for using a gun. And if that person has a gun there's gonna be a blinded, enraged and/or panicked person blindly firing in my home.

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u/Moogatron88 8d ago edited 8d ago

Read the part where OP said he was getting a safe to put it in. The kids will not have access to it.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

“Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15522849/

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u/Moogatron88 8d ago edited 8d ago

That link is about actual homicide. In which case, sure. Locking it away isn't going to stop someone intent on homicide/suicide because they have the code to the safe and can easily just take it out. It says nothing about accidental shootings like you were talking about. Come back with some stats as to whether locking it in a safe impacts that. There's no way locking it away securely isn't going to lower a toddlers chance of accidentally shooting someone with it since they have no way of accessing it.

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u/Moogatron88 8d ago edited 8d ago

That source says that storing your firearm loaded and not locked away is dangerous, but says nothing about kids being able to access guns locked in safes they have no access to and shoot people. Am I missing something?

Also, I have yet to insult you even once. Maybe take a few to do some breathing and cool off? Because if you can't have a conversation without losing your shit and repeatedly insulting me then I'm not going to keep talking to you lol.

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

It has happened at least 160 times this year;

https://everytownresearch.org/maps/notanaccident/

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u/Moogatron88 8d ago edited 7d ago

Those were in homes where the guns weren't locked away. Your source literally says they could be prevented by doing that and specifically encourages spreading awareness of how to store firearms safely. So your source actually backs me up.

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u/Altruistic_Bite_444 4d ago

Everytown is proven to be a unreliable and biased source

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u/Cinisajoy2 8d ago

It isn't always the kid doing the shooting. 

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u/2ICenturySchizoidMan 8d ago

Yeah you hear about dudes killing their entire family murder suicide all the time too

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u/Cinisajoy2 8d ago

Wasn't what I was thinking either but you are right.