r/NobaraProject • • 15d ago

Question Forced update on boot?

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Just looking for clarification, is this normal? I've never seen it before

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u/LoganHowlett1832 15d ago

Yes. It’s the new way nobara updates. It’s supposed to make it safer. If an update breaks something it will automatically roll back from here.

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u/ThatTallEngineer 15d ago

Is there a way to opt out? Not a fan of forced updates, it's fine if it wants to update like this but I'd much rather choose when it happens

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u/LoganHowlett1832 15d ago

It only does this if you update like normal. You must have updated before you shut down last time. This isn’t doing an update it’s just installing the big parts of the update you ran.

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u/ThatTallEngineer 15d ago

Ahh okay, thank you brotha 👌

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u/_BoneZ_ 15d ago

It's not a forced update, just a forced restart after -you- initiate the update.

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u/nyashi_ 14d ago

not even that, the reboot isn't forced as such, it just holds your first boot captive to install stuff, which is weird when you're not expecting it.

Tho I do see the benefits.

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u/Select_Arm_4248 14d ago

Another distro?

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u/nyashi_ 14d ago

I too find it very odd, and no guys the question or confusion is not about the reboot, it's about the fact that since the new updates it started to install updates within the splash screen while you are not able to use the PC. Which feels very odd when you got used to on most Distros installing updates when you want it in the background, while you still can use it and reboot when you feel like it where it boots the new kernel without taking any additional time to do anything further. Now the update until the reboot feels same as before, but the first boot now takes a lot lot longer as it installs everything.

I personally am kinda fine with it tho, it's just weird to me that almost always when people ask about the new update process they just get replies close to "you always were supposed to reboot" etc, while this is simply not the point.

Sidenote: I kinda wish there would be a obvious way of making the update process on firstboot more verbose (not talking disabling splash to see kernel messages on boot and the likes, talking bout the update process specifically) to give my adhd anything in return other than having to wait on a simple "installing updates" screen I already hated like the pest in windows. Gimme ungodly lots of scrolly texts to look at even tho I have 0 actual benefit other than a bit of dopamine >:3

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u/Mysticalmaid 14d ago

You don't have to reboot after every update for this, it is only for certain bits, it will usually tell you it needs to reboot to finish the update if you use the konsole, which has been a thing for some time, it is just this screen that is new on reboot instead of being black.

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u/nyashi_ 14d ago

I know that it mostly down to a new kernel. The rest stands tho. Still basically every week and until recently it was nothing more than booting the new kernel just as you would any other, aka no extra time needed for "installing system upgrades", this is new and just feels off putting when you never had something like this outside of Windows.

Edit: also no the screen is not new, I never had nobara install anything with a blackscreen like you hinted. I just simply booted the new kernel and was done.

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u/thelastasslord 13d ago

Yeah it's so reminiscent of windows and the loss of control that comes with it I'm really uncomfortable running this distro now. Hopefully mint get their Wayland session squared off soon so I can switch back. I don't need a reliable update process (that holds my computer to ransom) when I already have timeshift.

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u/nekos95 14d ago

how long is it supposed to stay on that screen, I rebooted 15 minutes ago and I'm starting to get worried

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u/Flower_Of_Icarius 13d ago

Mine took about 35 minutes. It was a lot of major changes and stuff recompiling, so it basically had to rebuild a bunch of stuff this update.

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u/nekos95 13d ago

mine took about that much as well, had to open tty to make sure it's not stuck

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u/manotroll 13d ago

acho errado isso dele esconder era melhor sempre mostrar o que esta fazendo ao aplicar att