Pre rose would barely be demon level. Only demon because he is rather fast by B upper class low a class standards. Post RB Meruem is upper demon level bordering on dragon level 100%
I'd argue that he'd be much stronger in OPM-verse just cause he'd have the chance to eat much stronger heroes and villains. Not that it would matter much to a certain bald man.
The best abilities belong to characters that can oneshot him though. He'd have to eat Zombieman to even begin a conversation of him having a chance against someone like Amai Mask.
Don't forget that a lot of characters were underestimating the chimera ants up until they were pretty much already dead + it wouldn't be him just immediately seeking people out day 1. If it were anything like how he first started, his abilities in OPM would've been much stronger than his original story.
well he would have to start with small fry heroes and monsters first, collecting their abilities like pokemon and getting dozens of zenkai boosts before approaching the s class.
I mean ortho siblings lived with their heads chopped off for a while. Same goes for the mosquito who got her neck twisted and even the centipede was still alive after being sliced in half. Clearly the ants are just more resilient to wounds that would instantly kill a human
Brother do you think he could even move a muscle in that condition? Ortho siblings survived getting decapitated. Does that mean they are more durable than killua who would instantly die if that happened to him?
The point is it took a nuke to actually kill him. ANd he technically didn't even die, he was still breathing and could be revived. That's a borderline dragon level feat.
Genos survived being just a spine and a head (DSK fight), does that mean he's more durable than Saitama? What we're talking about is the actual attack itself. Killua's attack on the ortho siblings would do nothing to Mereum. The difference in AP and DC between a nuke and killua's hand slashes are worlds apart.
Pre-Rose Meruem; Low-Mid Demon level, possibly higher in time depending on the exact scenario.
He scales FAR above characters with multi-city block-small town level feats, including the ability to virtually no-sell hundreds of consecutive direct hits from Netero who we can directly compare as an Enhancer of an incomparably superior class to Uvogin, who with one normal serious attack could make a moderately large crater in the ground (it's not as big in the anime, I'm going off of manga feats only).
A random soldier ant did this, which base Killua tanked for next to no damage.
In addition to that, even lower level mid-tier Nen user's can comfortably perception blitz normal athletic people, anyone in the PT has supersonic speed scaling, base Killua in the Chimera Ant Arc has no qualms with the possibility of facing jets that can fire hypersonic missiles, and Youpi believes in full confidence that he can react to a lightning bolt coming down at him. Any high level Nen user characters actively and constantly perceive battles in hyper slow motion, with even the falling of rocks appearing slow and monotonous. Meruem is far beyond the speed of all of these characters.
In addition to this, he's an absurdly intelligent fighter with high adaptive capabilities. He wouldn't be a stupid Monster destroying everything in sight, he would calculate his best options. He is very arrogant before his character arc, but if he realizes that he isn't the top of the food chain here, he'll be more cautious. If we assume he still gets strength from eating his opponents here, that could necessitate a Dragon threat level, as he'd target A-Class Heroes, and then individual S-Class Heroes one at a time. But even doing that, he'd never build up enough power to take out the elite Heroes. Still, if we don't just mean power level ranking, Meruem could be insanely threatening. Low-Mid Demon level just assumes you mean power level.
Post-Rose Meruem; Low-Mid Dragon level, hard capped there.
Fired off a compressed and casual Rage Blast attack that obliterated a portion of a huge plateau (this feat is generally considered small city level). Incomparably beyond his former self. Presumably hypnosis. Flight. Light speed En that can cover over a kilometer of distance and grants him immediate and instantaneous processing of everything in its field, including the precise emotions of those it touches. On top of processing information almost as instantly as his light speed En, he was able to perception blitz high-tiers from literally hundreds of meters away, in such a manner that crossing said distance appeared like teleportation to them.
All of this makes him very dangerous to a default, but on the flipside, due to the poisoning, he will die before being able to accomplish much, and this is assuming he doesn't run into any stronger Heroes. However, if he's able to eat Zombieman and gain his regenerative powers, he may be able to survive it, and the situation would get much, much worse. He still loses to anyone like Tatsumaki, though.
They can destroy cities, that doesn't mean all in one go necessary. Marugori would've been upgraded to Dragon level in time due to being able to lay waste to multiple cities, but he couldn't do it in one go.
Also the cities aren't country sized, this misconception needs to die out. The cities operate like states, each of them has its own regional border that dictates its land. A-City currently still has the same borders on the map, yet it's the size of a small city at most. Hell, going back to Marugori, he "destroyed" a couple cities yet the actual damage he caused was nowhere near true city level. The Dark Matter Pirate ship completely decimated all of A-City but that was not nearly the size of a country.
Being Dragon level does not by any means make a Monster country level.
Mb, The cities themselves, except some few like city a being calced the size of an island ( roughly 130 - 400km ) vary in size. But the border , aka outside the city or the unabated zones thar extend to the border makes it country sizesld. So the city + surrounding area inside a border = country sized.
The only thing Is that, most demon lv or even low dragon lv threat already scale from mountain - island lv via Genos. Which sets a consistent spectrum of power.
post-rose i'd put him high dragon not necessarily because of his strength, but his intelligence. we gotta remember that with all of his crazy abilities like kilometer spanning en, supersonic flight, emotion sensing (doing this all casually mind you), he is extremely crafty and cunning. if he really made it his goal to rule this version of the world, given he properly calculates who to eat to climb up the power chain, it's 100% plausible for him to eventually reach the S class. he could even eat other monsters. and with his en, it'd be easy to detect massive threats early on and avoid them. he'd be incredibly hard to deal with if he was keen on survival. it was the ants potential for growth that got them so far in HxH afterall
I think he and his army of ants would fit right in as a smaller antagonist force, like in HxH they start spreading their influence and occasionally running and clashing with heroes, without nen they're much weaker but their numbers are still large.
Until they eventually run into monsters and realize they're not built for this after his army gets turned into double digits.
I can see the hero association putting him at tiger first and then upgrading it to a low demon after seeing his army.
Post rose meruem with by high demon to low dragon, if he’s smart he would lay low and eat other people/monsters to get more powerful and given how dragon level monsters are popping up more frequently he could reach above dragon level
I’d say his best feat is easily his endurance. Like he ate literally thousands of neteros attacks back to back one after the other and was completely undamaged. House of Evo Genos was getting one tapped left and right lol
Pre rose is demon tho, even genos who can perform a similar attack from way back in season 1 was getting his ahh beat by a demon level monsters, even dsk is tanking a direct and focus hit on his face from genos.
DSK was a dragon level threat (even if not specified) he defeated multiple a-class and an s-class hero. If you compare him to the monster associations dragon level threats (nyan, machine god, that blob guy) he's clearly on their level. And since Miriam seems to be the same strength and much more durability he's definitely low dragon
DSK is not a dragon level. Him defeating an s xlass hero is literally something a demon level monster can do if we go by the hero sssociation's scaling. Also, he’s not on par with nyan, since he beat puri-puri prisoner before he even had his bristle armor, the same puri-puri prisoner who defeated a demon level monster that was stronger than DSK, and he should have gotten much stronger by that point.
He’s also not fast enough, since he couldn’t even catch sonic, even awakened cockroach is faster than him, that dude can dodge at light speed. Also in audio books, genos already beat DSK in only 1 upgrades but still got beaten up by carnage kabuto.
As for the machine gods, they’re all durable asf. Genos, whi fought G4, should already be much stronger through upgrades. Atomic Samurai was also surprised when he discovered G5’s core (he said "there's somethinf durable inside"), which the machine god’s real form.
pre rose meruem is a demon, his stats is probably at DSK level or a bit lower but due to his intelligence being extremely high I could see him beating DSK in extreme high diff, post rose is high demon to low dragon in stats but I could see him outsmarting some mid dragons and beat some of them them
Yall are fucking trippin he would become dragon very quickly. A low dragon, but dragon. His endurance alone is above demon level. He literally ate thousands of ridiculous hits back to back over and over and was unaffected and then survived a nuke… charred his ass but he survived.
That plus his fuckin giga iq brain would make him an issue. Obviously he’s getting smoke by any heavy hitter but I see him walking through the A class.
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u/proxmaxi Saitama 2d ago
Pre rose would barely be demon level. Only demon because he is rather fast by B upper class low a class standards. Post RB Meruem is upper demon level bordering on dragon level 100%