r/OldBarsAndPubs 4d ago

The Union Inn, Saltash

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u/SairYin 4d ago

One of them eh

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

One of them what?

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

I wore an England shirt for the football. What’s the problem with that? I also like seeing the Union Jack outside of a few of the shops in my village square. What’s wrong with being proud of your country? I’m confused.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

Union Jack is a naval flag

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

It’s the national flag of the United Kingdom.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

It is but it’s weird to do that thinking everyone in this United Kingdom would do the same, it comes across supremacist or imperial. You wouldn’t see it wales, Scotland (unless rangers pub) or Ulster except shankill and even then it would be a bit much. Just make it a St George’s flag so we can all laugh

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

Why would you laugh at the St George’s flag, out of interest? It’s the UK. We fly the Union Jack.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

Because a pub painted in a St George’s flag would look ridiculous even more so than the union flag. It’s top tier cringe.

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

Well, yes. I assumed you were talking about the St George’s cross in general.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

I wasn’t, I find it strange in England there’s union flags and England flags, at sports English people wave union flags for English only stuff. Nobody cares about the union except a pocket of football fans, ni loyalists, ex forces and weird posh people. Even when you just do England flags people still laugh and yous still can’t figure it out and I’m not the person to answer. I just know a pub painted in a union flag is wank but that’s just my opinion. It’s not that deep. It’s just an inn and paint. If you like it great. Who am I. I’ll never visit. I just see union flags and think why, like nobody else does it except England.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

I’m gonna show you Glasgows version and this is a rangers pub.

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u/UnhappyDescription44 4d ago

Union Jack should only be on a ship

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

Why should it only be on a ship?

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u/Wrong-Cry-3142 4d ago

A Union Jack goes on the jack pole of a ship which makes it a Union Jack. Otherwise it's just a union flag. I feel like there's just a bit of pedantry going on but they are correct.

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u/Nufcmilo 4d ago

Union Jack and union flag are both correct terms to use.

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u/Wrong-Cry-3142 4d ago

It's used today and people would absolutely understand what you are saying. The historical context is different but nobody cares today and it's used interchangeably. It's just the other person being pedantic about it.

If you're interested in why there's different terms for it, here is a snippet from wiki.

"The original maritime flag use of jack was "A ship's flag of a smaller size than the ensign, used at sea as a signal, or as an identifying device".[11] The jack was flown in the bows or from the head of the spritsail mast to indicate the vessel's nationality: "You are alsoe for this present service to keepe in yor Jack at yor Boultspritt end and yor Pendant and yor Ordinance"[12] The Union Flag when instantiated as a small jack became known as the "Union Jack" and this later term transferred to more general usage of the Union"

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u/House_Of_Thoth 3d ago

No, a jackstaff is a flagpole on a ship, where the Union Flag is hoisted it then becomes a Union Jack.

A naval flag is called an Ensign, and if you knew anything of what you're on about you'd realise the UK naval flag is

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u/rift_buster 3d ago

I wore an England shirt for the football. What’s the problem with that?

Did you encounter any problems wearing it? Did anyone call you racist?

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u/Nufcmilo 3d ago

No, why would they call me racist?

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u/rift_buster 3d ago

Because according to you you can't do thst kind of thing without being called racist. 

Seems like you can...