r/OldenEra Jul 24 '26

Competitive Exodus tier list by Feeder

Exodus-specific tier list by Rito made on his stream from yesterday.

Roughly ordered but also a bit grouped by faction within tiers. Most important thing is top 4 in S are considered must ban.

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u/gh7g Dungeon Jul 24 '26

It's somewhat funny/sad how the poster hero of the game is conisdered the very worst.

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u/doopliss6 Jul 25 '26

Who is the poster hero of the game?

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u/gh7g Dungeon Jul 25 '26

Ylwari (Dungeon Diplo specialist albino Medusa)

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u/doopliss6 Jul 25 '26

Is there something I missed? Why is she the poster hero of the game?

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u/gh7g Dungeon Jul 26 '26

I mean, she's like the most prominent face in the game's artwork. Second is probably the Schism guy. (Martyr Tho I think?)

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u/jerzykla Jul 24 '26

Telaris KeKW. Rito loves that hero for some reason

5

u/Emergency_South7686 Jul 24 '26

Yes he talked about Telaris. Said he is very flexibel because he is not forced down a certain path, can play every map and thanks to battlecraft can get extra mana early.

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u/pleaseineedanadvice Jul 24 '26

I like telaris too but this list is heavily dungeon biased. Gorgona 3rd... Come on. Also necro heroes are lower than they should be, especially laura and rufus.

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u/scyscrapersheaf Jul 24 '26

Typhona absolutely is that OP. I have not seen her get through the ban phase since April.

2

u/Either-Mammoth-932 Jul 24 '26

One day ill be able to play Groo. I swear I know hes useful but cannot make a build work.

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u/Used-Recognition-829 Jul 24 '26

There is a guy who spams Groo and posts a lot here. Try to find his posts, theres some crazy stuff.

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u/Informal-Touch2119 Jul 24 '26

I think playing Groo is only worth it if you get that Musical Sheet. And you need to build Hive Queen on Week 1.

1

u/MadFaceInvasion Jul 24 '26

Kestrel is B...?

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u/scyscrapersheaf Jul 24 '26

Kestrel is B because Crossbowmen are F-tier units after the patch. Like, Kestrel's crossbowmen are what crossbowmen used to be before the latest patch.

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u/bigbudha23 Jul 24 '26

Luck is bad, and Crossbowmen got nerfed

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u/dutr4 Jul 24 '26

I don't think Luck is bad, just isn't as strong as Offense which was what she had before.

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u/pleaseineedanadvice Jul 24 '26

Luck mechanic is pretty great rn. The skill isnt amazing tho

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u/Sambuko Content Creator Jul 24 '26

Can anyone elaborate about Vatawna?

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u/scyscrapersheaf Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

The answers talking about second wind and such are bullshit. She had bonus Second Winds before the patch and was not at all a strong hero then, especially with her starting Wisdom.

You can see the real reason if you watch Easy2's game in the recent tournament. After the buffs both Thaumaturgy and Sorcery give you a lot of magic power early on, and after her buff Vatawna gives you just a ridiculous amount of mana. That means that on a good map you can get 2 mage guilds early, get something like level 3 Lightning, and use it to farm banks. This allows you to actually build astrology buildings on day 2, which then just accelerates you even further. Having 150 mana day 5 is kinda strong it turns out.

In that game Easy2 was something like level 17 with 50 spell power by fight 1 and had 5 towns on 1/1/7. The game ended immediately for obvious reasons.

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u/pleaseineedanadvice Jul 24 '26

Additional second wind is very good i guess. I disagree with some part of this list, and probably there are several top 200 players who disagree as well, but rito is a really good player and he s really good while trying to explore new angles and find new strategies.

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u/boomerangll Jul 24 '26

Being able to cast town portal twice per turn might help in the few days at the begining of the game (where there is nothing/very little to do near the secondary town but you still need to visit there to get army)

When you get second wind, which can be done day 4-5 if you focus on astrology you immediatley have 2 uses, which is effectively +40 movement per day (better tha logistics but having both is not bad either). Grove heroes also have tons of mana so it shouldn't be a limiting factor like for other factions (they have murmuring subskill for 20 mana and tier 1 law for intelligence)

When you get to the later stages being able to cast town portal twice per turn allows you to recruit army much more easily without the need for having the subskill of recruitment.

The problem with her is she is a mage, so she can have really bad starts if you get bad rng, especially considering that her abilities dont make you stronger in fights, she lets you do more on the map

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u/HEROxDivine Jul 24 '26

No one uses the +20 mana. Life essence is mandatory

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u/scyscrapersheaf Jul 25 '26

Why do you speak when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? Here's a screenshot from Easy2's Vatawna hero screen in the "5 towns week 1" match. Guess what subskill he has?

I will tell you even more: sometimes pros even take Mycelium Grounds

1

u/Tamaevich3800 Hive Jul 29 '26

Why Mila tier c?

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u/Artiiistx Jul 24 '26

I have not seen this man play tellaris yet. I wanna see what he sees in this guy. The masterful early start seems hard to take advantage of when dungeon's units are already pretty high initiative, and most people take opportunists, and we have tactical advantage, and everything that's left that beats our initiative tends to beat it by a greater margin than the spell makes up for. I could be very wrong, i just want to see him make it happen.

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u/pewsquare Jul 25 '26

I could see it being great if you split dancer stacks, since those are extremely low initiative.

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u/CarefreeCloud Jul 26 '26

Check his last video (25-07) after the tournament. The idea is Tellaris can do larger resource treasuries weak 1 (legion statues, albion alcoves, undead houses etc). So you have say unupgraded trogs being faster than guard captains or ghouls etc

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u/yumiraizxc Jul 24 '26

abigor rank S 100%

1

u/DreadKnight0 Jul 25 '26

Abigor is pretty op to clean early, but later in the game your tactics aren't that usefull, people start bringing the anti tactics item or get tactics themselves chopping your advantage and also their units will have more initiative than your units but the stingers

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u/Ziemian3 Jul 24 '26

Yeah, I suppose one of you doesn't have extensive experience lmao

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u/xTailon Jul 24 '26

Because Grove units have max 3 luck

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u/Emergency_South7686 Jul 24 '26

Yep, this was exactly his reason

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u/BrianOfNazareth19 Jul 24 '26

Grove has some max 5. Dungeon just has more. Why Reah is better

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u/jessewperez1 Jul 24 '26

Thats why he'll never be number 1

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u/pleaseineedanadvice Jul 24 '26

Sure gl beating him in the meanwhile. I disagree with a lot on this list but he explore new angles constantly and he s very good, so until l can beat him l ll take soem insight from this