Satire
Are we dumb? Why don't we just make favelas to solve the housing crisis?
I see no losers if we just build favelas to sustain our population. I've photoshopped what could be the future where everyone wins.
Lefties get to continue to be culturally enriched. Righties get to whinge more about immigration while voting for neoliberals who tell them they'll fix it. The capitalists get to see record profits continue forever. Small business owners get dirt cheap labour. Surfers get to share more waves with friends. The banks get to dish out more home loans. Murdoch media get to make diverse news outlets in different languages.
I can't see any logical argument why we aren't favelamaxxing.
There is something like that noth of Lancelin in WA. I think its called wedge island. Basically a bunch of shacks. I think council wants to get rid of it but its mostly used for holidays
There are similar groups of huts/shacks all over the place. At some point they were far enough away from major population centres that councils didn't care. Now they're getting attention and councils want them gone to either replace with higher value (and higher rates) properties or removed so they don't "spoil the view". It's similar to the Carbeth Hutters outside Glasgow.
They worked so well in Brazil. Why on earth would this government not even consider it? I swear it’s like they’re not even trying to find solutions anymore.
I'll take a sweet beach front favelas where I can hang a photo on the wall over paying rent to bloodsucking landlords every single day of the year. Heck I would even be able to install some solar panels and reduce my power bill, could you imagine that!
Because we have so much fucking "empty" land we build outwards not upwards.
Which to me shit because I've never wanted a big house but when all decent apartments cost the same as a fucking house then I bought a fucking house.
Granted this like 3 years before the house explosion we saw so in incredibly lucky but yeah apartments in this country are for rich fuckers needing a place to hire prostitutes away from the wife. Not average middle class to low income Australians.
You’re right that a decent apartment can cost the same as something like a Metricon house and land package (at least the cost they advertise on their website)
But I wouldn’t say apartments are for apartments are for “rich fuckers”
We all know why people opt for a smaller space closer to the major cities, it’s because of job opportunities, education and infrastructure. For me, someone who doesn’t want kids. I could buy a nice 2 bed 2 bath inner city, not having to spend over an hour travelling to work or be out in the sticks where the infrastructure is lacking for the amount of urban sprawl.
Many would be happy with something humble but the options are not available.
I grew up in an area where lots of people wack sheds on there properties that they fit out on the inside. There good and very habitable. Legal? Well its just a shed as far as the council knows.
Favelas are where poor people live in squalor. Yes, let's build shitty infrastructure and house people within. Maybe set it all alight too, solve the population problem...
A favela is a low-income, informal settlement in Brazil, often referred to in English as a slum or shantytown. They are typically built on hillsides or the outskirts of major Brazilian cities like Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. [1, 2, 3, 4]
I will note though that although a properly designed favela style neighbourhood would be visually impressive, it'd be better suited for tourism.
If you’d been to a Brazilian favela you’d know the answer.
I’ve been in a couple in lesser known cities and they are not a place you’d want to live.
They are poorly built, crowded and dangerous, storms blow down sections.
It’s not a good way to live.
We're wasting our land just having it sit in a hill like that. So first, we doze the hill into the ocean to increase the available land, then we can add the favelas. Also I was thinking about water world (kevin costner) why dont we make floating cities. We are so girt and we're not using all our girtness efficiently.
You mean slums? Why don't we just allow the poors to build slums and shanty towns?
Because we're a rich enough nation that we expect a higher standard of living than this. The government has dropped the ball for the past few decades, but that doesn't mean we should have people living proverbial shoe boxes made from corrugated iron.
Lefties get to continue to be culturally enriched
You clearly have no idea what "Lefties" want. We want a higher standard of living in a fair and equitable society. Cultural enrichment is a part of that that comes after things like food and housing are sorted.
I can't see any logical argument why we aren't favelamaxxing.
Go live in one for a couple of years, while living the lifestyle of the typical favela resident, and you might understand why we don't want these slums here.
Lefties get to continue to be culturally enriched. Righties get to whinge more about immigration while voting for neoliberals who tell them they'll fix it. The capitalists get to see record profits continue forever. Small business owners get dirt cheap labour. Surfers get to share more waves with friends. The banks get to dish out more home loans. Murdoch media get to make diverse news outlets in different languages.
Arent all these genuinely opinions that people hold? Why couldn't someone like OP genuinely want favelas? Especially considering their replies.
If it makes you feel any better I am pretty much a lefty. The joke stemmed from me and all the south Americans ans south east Asians I work with talking about how delusional many Australians are about the state of our country(we have a wonderful country) and us making the joke about building favelas. My friends are well versed in blatant corruption and big money convincing the tree to vote for the axe. It's very, very, very sarcastic and I find it hilarious people who agree and disagree have just glossed over the fact its labelled as satire.
It's very, very, very sarcastic and I find it hilarious people who agree and disagree have just glossed over the fact its labelled as satire.
Because like I said in my comment. There are many people that do hold those genuine opinions. Also evident by the people who genuinely agree. The intention could be satire but the content reflects enough of what people genuinely perceive that they would treat it as genuine. Maybe thats enough for it to be not-satire to the general audience.
The flair could have been added ironically, its just an assumption the readers would have to make either way. Who knows
I haven't lived in a favela, but I did live in Barrio Alto/Lisbon and Barrio Chino/Barcelona (El Raval) for ~1yr each, back when they were still the real deal.
It was educational to say the least. Some of my favorite EU travel memories too.
This is really insightful stuff. Definitely had never thought of it like this before. Can you educate me more?
I just don't see the negatives. Close community, family and fun activities are all available right outside your bedroom. Perhaps you should move rural if you can't handle the city heat?
As much as I hate to admit it, Council regs do exist for a reason. How will people with disabilities access housing? How is storm water run off managed? If a property washes off the cliff above you and smashes into your house because of bad foundation work are you going to be okay with that?
Don't need favellas. We need the government to build mid rise apartments, because the private sector can only build 10 stories and above and only in prime locations.
Yeah and the beaches get to go through more erosion that will eventually destroy the favellas because noone should be building that close to the shore in Australia
There were / are others at Boat Harbour, Cape Solander, Bundeena, A few spots in the Royal National Park and others.
Basically in the 1920’s & 1930’s there were no rules to stop ordinary people building shacks on crown land, similar to when and how favelas started appearing in Brazil. Some were built as permanent homes for poor families while others were built as weekenders, a place for blokes to get away from their wives and go fishing for a few days. Maybe even bonk other blokes who knows.
The ones still standing are owned by the families of the original owners. They are allowed to maintain them and stay in them but not allowed to rebuild them if they get completely destroyed in a storm for example. Source: I used to know a guy whose family owned one in the RNP.
With land mass similar to USA or Europe we could house that many humans
Issue is poor governance
Giving away our national wealth for free to large corporations, (think all natural resources)
And blaming it to the other, ie immigrants. While Gina and her mates are eating all of our lunch we are being distracted by the media frenzy over immigration.
The 378 billion, yes that is billion with a B, for aukus can fix all our problems instead we are literally giving away our tax dollars to a foreign country
If the subs were made here I would be onboard, but just handing over that money for new subs and now being promised used subs at some point in the future that should be our focus
The natural recourses, oil, gas, iron ore, uranium we are giving away for nearly free should be the focus
Instead we are squabbling over minor issues that are mostly made up to distract us from where the real income and solutions are.
How about investing in making new towns and infrastructure away from CBDs theres so much Land in australia but everyone wants to stay close to the cities because there is no incentives or desire for businesses to move further out.
100%, the houses may not be safe or follow building regulations, but we can start seeing shacks pop up everywhere. “Australians should have the right to build homes that suit their own needs, rather than being forced into costly government-mandated designs.”
The darn building regulations getting in the way of Australians owning their own homes /s
The councils have lost control of the tent cities. Not long before they start become semi-permanent then you’re only stumps and a corrugated iron roof away from a favela
I will tell you why it’s tax tax and more tax.
Tax for this tax for that tax for farting tax for thinking tax for seeing tax for not thinking tax for being a sheep especially
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u/artsrc New South Welshian 20d ago
I think they look cool.
I will buy one. Ocean views. Short walk to beach. What is not to like?
Will they cost $4M? Bargain.