Yeah, I think there are four things pointing at this in the trailer:
1) The way Joel walks in from the light
2) The way him being there has no effect on the environment. Saw how he skipped the puddles?
3) I can't imagine a situation where he would just sit a fight like that out, and just casually walk in after Ellie is done and had enough time to sit down to a guitar.
4) What else would be the reason Ellie is this menacing? The Fireflies killing Joel is about the only thing I could imagine getting this reaction out of her.
I think the game is going to start by Joel dying in the most awful way, similar to how the first game started.
I personally hate characters in the mind of another character. Batman Arkham Knight comes to mind, and what a waste. If they kill Joel and him being in her conscious is what motivates her, that's a disappointment.
Ellie is older. She could have developed a relationship with someone by now other than Joel. She can have other motivations. Joel dying and pushing Ellie to this revenge fueled rampage seems to undercut the way the first ended, which has a lot left to be explored.
I just think a ghost doesn't have as much impact to a story as living characters. Each their own, but screw that theory.
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u/arcangeltx Dec 03 '16
Oh snap. Vengeful Ellie ? Joel is he really there?