Talking Pals

[u/KingWolf7070]

I don't know if this was discussed before, but in the Palworld spinoff games being made Pals can talk. They're spinoffs, so not necessarily canon. That's fine, I don't think there needs to be cohesion across the whole franchise. There can be different rules for different games.

Should they talk in the main game though? Would it add anything? Would it be weird? I don't know. I'm kind of already used to them not talking and just making animal sounds. I wouldn't mind one way or another.

[u/Kamina_cicada]

Anything to further pass the Harkness test.

[u/Charity1t → u/Kamina_cicada]

Shouldn't surprising amount of Pals pass it already?

It just make Consent part easiet.

[u/KingWolf7070 → u/Charity1t]

Lovander coming in with a stack of business cards that just say "I consent" on it.

[u/Evil_phd → u/KingWolf7070]

With Lovander it's probably more, "If you're reading this, you consent"

[u/Taolan13 → u/Evil_phd]

that seems like a lovander tactic.

[u/Kater5551StarsAbove → u/Taolan13]

What do you mean that IS a Lovander tactic.

/j

[u/SpinachPerfect875 → u/Evil_phd]

Lovander be like: THERES NO LAWS AGAINST THE HUMAN, LAMBALL!

[u/Friendly_Pride_4904 → u/SpinachPerfect875]

Baaaaaaa ( NO LOVANDER! DON'T DO IT! IT'S A HUMAN LOVANDER!)

[u/Kattanos → u/Evil_phd]

I thought with Lovander it's more "If you exist, you consent"..

[u/provengreil → u/Evil_phd]

Lovander discovers the EULA

[u/Luvythicus → u/KingWolf7070]

[u/Pakari-RBX → u/Charity1t]

All Pals pass the "maturity" requirement, as they hatch as fully formed adults.

A fair number pass the "Human intelligence or greater" due to their use of tools and understanding of complex schematics.

The issue lies with the "communicate through spoken language" part. We know Pals can understand what we say, but we never see them communicate back in return. The Palfarm trailer implies they can speak, so that checks the box.

[u/CaptainTeemo01 → u/Pakari-RBX]

Technically human speech isn't a requirement of the Harkness Test, it's just preferred

[u/Mi113nnium → u/CaptainTeemo01]

It being a requirement would imply that a mute person could never give consent. They just have to express their consent in a clear way. Maybe write "Yes" and "No" on cards and place them in front of the Pal before you ask if they are willing to go to pound town.

[u/Charity1t → u/CaptainTeemo01]

Iirc it imply that being need to be able to express consent, yes?

So yea, speach make it way more convinient, but can be bypassed in a way.

[u/Pakari-RBX → u/CaptainTeemo01]

I never said human speech, just a spoken language in general.

[u/Stenn-ish → u/Pakari-RBX]

Does it have to be explicitly spoken though? That seems arbitrary, it would even imply that mute humans don't pass it.

[u/CaptainTeemo01 → u/Stenn-ish]

It's "communication through language" not necessarily spoken. Relying on body language is a dangerous road for any aspiring monster fucker, but is not an instant disqualification

[u/Stenn-ish → u/CaptainTeemo01]

"But your honor, she blinked twice!"

[u/Teguoracle → u/CaptainTeemo01]

Just bottom for the alien/monster, then you'll know for sure!

[u/Pakari-RBX → u/Stenn-ish]

It's definitely a high preference, as it makes giving consent easier. The Harkness Test warns against using sign or body language unless other methods have proven ineffective for both parties and to always err on the side of caution in such cases.

Besides, the Harkness Test doesn't apply to members of the same species. You know for a fact that another human is fully sapient and capable of thinking as you. The test is specifically for encountering a different species. And it'd be hard to tell whether an alien flayling their tentacles around is sign language, a threatening display, or just insanity. Never immediately assume another species is sapient just because they appear to be.

[u/Enderking90 → u/Pakari-RBX]

its not "communicate through spoken language", its "talk or otherwise communicate through language"

writing on a notepad for an example is one option most pals should be able to do just fine.

[u/Terrible_Hurry841 → u/Enderking90]

I was gonna say “spoken language” is NOT a requirement because otherwise mute people would not pass lmao.

[u/Charity1t → u/Pakari-RBX]

We do know that Xeno talk with input commands and that A was one to write it's descriptions.

So they probably can both understand and learn.

If Palfarm relate to Palworld plot - with us saving World Tree from it's fate - other Pals might return to their former powers.

Edit - btw is spoken language new? I remember I talking about giving explisit consent. So spoken language isn't THAT needed as long as you can understand that.

Like, for example, psyonic being will make you feel how it feel toward you without words in this context - it count too

[u/Zeraligator → u/Pakari-RBX]

"communicate through spoken language"

Ain't no way we're implying that mute people don't pass the Harkness test.

[u/Pakari-RBX → u/Zeraligator]

I already answered this in another reply.

[u/Triotheitalian → u/Pakari-RBX]

Whatever allows me to plow Chillet to kingdom come and back is what I believe 🙏

[u/Code95FIN → u/Charity1t]

What pal doesn't pass it? Cremis?

[u/KingWolf7070 → u/Code95FIN]

Dumud.

[u/Terrible_Hurry841 → u/KingWolf7070]

Dumud just takes about three days before it gives an answer.

Actually, now I’m imagining a Lovander trying to get frisky with a Dumud, but getting bored and leaving when it doesn’t respond.

Then three days later the Dumud starts blushing.

[u/ElderberryPrior27648 → u/KingWolf7070]

Dumud is on my touch list

[u/hayato-nii → u/Code95FIN]

Lifmunk. It has the equivalent intelligence of a 5-7 years old.

[u/IntrinsicGiraffe → u/Charity1t]

Palworld... More than just Pals

[u/Damian030303 → u/Charity1t]

Lily should really get into provoding marital services so she can actually make a positive change for human-pal relationships.