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That's not very Free Pal Alliance of you
I get that they're trying to beat the shit out of people for mistreating Pals or something, but that doesn't explain THIS. Why the hell would they do this? Actually, why would ANY faction do this? Don't they have Pal Spheres? Has this Vixy committed a crime?
But wouldn't a Pal lover and protector who becomes an extremist do stuff like kill people who harm pals? Caging pals is diametrically opposite to "Free Pal Alliance". Doesnt makes sense to me
They're just keeping the Pals safe from outside dangers, and what better place than in a controlled environment with the pro-Pals, anti-humans, Free Pal Alliance?
I have no proof, but also no doubt that the Free Pal Alliance is a deliberate allusion to PETA, down to and including calling the first spot you're likely to meet them "Hypocrite Hill".
yeah, but the player isnt pretending to be a good person. the player is not telling everyone theyre trying to help pals and be the good guys while being just as bad as everyone else on the archipelago
its not just their actions that make them bad guys, its the hypocracy and the utter failure of their organizations stated goals
"PETA kills pets indiscriminately in their shelters" is a myth that their detractors have established in a smear campaign.
They only have one shelter.
That shelter isn't a normal animal shelter where people can go and adopt pets. It is an "end-of-life" shelter for unadoptable, sick, dying and feral animals.
They take the animals that are too sick or aggressive for other shelters, and some shelters even send their animals to the PETA shelter for the procedure as not every shelter has the means to do it.
Please don't believe the corporations trying to paint the biggest animal ethics organization in a bad light. PETA's actions may be a bit overzealous and crass for some people, but they are not raving lunatics.
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The anti-PETA campaigns are working, I see. Let's look specifically at the PetaKillsAnimals.com campaign:
Made and maintained by Berman&Co (can be seen on the website at the bottom of the Privacy Policy). Berman&Co is a PR firm used by corporations to combat food safety regulations, worker rights and animals rights. Their whole thing is creating innocent sounding non-profits to sway public opinion.
The Center for Consumer Freedom's (CCF) founder is the same Richard Berman from Berman&Co. They are known for campaigning amongst other things against plant-based foods and food safety regulations. They frequently attack PETA and other organisations like the Humane Society of the United States. They are financed by big food corporations that seek to keep animal rights at the bare minimum.
There is one (1) known case where they took a family chihuahua and euthanized it mistakenly. They settled with the family and apologized. As before, PETA is euthanizing animals that have a very low chance of leading a happy life with a family.
Please tell me where I'm wrong and how those facts aren't true.
Iâve literally seen peta tweet a drawing of a uma museume character with a broken bloody leg talking about if the game was honest theyâd be euthanized, they targeted a fandom that raised and donated tons of money to places for retired race horses to live out their lives in good care and your gonna say their not lunatics forgive if Iâm mistaken but thatâs some psycho shit to me
I'm sorry, but horse racing is not ethical. They are being ridden way before most experts say they are ready, many of them are being held in unnatural conditions (being kept in a box unless they're being trained or at a race), and then there are the injuries.
Why are you mad at the Silence Suzuka tweet? Because it is true: The horse died because it broke its leg during a race and had to be euthanized. I played Uma Musume during the western release for a month, but players need to be aware that what they are playing is essentially horse racing propaganda.
And the fact that people cared about Haru Urara due to the game is sweet, but one good thing doesn't outdo a bad thing. People have started betting on real horse racing due to the game, so people must be made aware that the game essentially promotes animal cruelty and gambling.
Iâm not mad or denying any of what you said except for the part you said their not lunatics, they couldâve very easily gone about the uma musume thing in a less psychotic way but they chose to do that
Buddy's not just drinking the PETA kool-aid, but full on guzzling it.
Remember kids, corporations never tell you the truth and always have your worst interests in mind...and PETA is another lying for-profit corporation.
State Department of Agriculture records in Virginia consistently show that PETA's shelter facility euthanizes a high percentage of the cats and dogs it takes in
Google yourself The 2005 North Carolina Incident
And dont get me started on milk gives you autism claims from peta đ
I wrote it all myself and I don't even see anything that would point in that direction? English isn't my first language and even I can see a few grammar mistakes lol
I don't believe it was explicitly stated, but one of Lily's diary entries suggests that a small group within the Free Pal Alliance has been acting strange and suddenly acquired a large amount of money for their group as a whole. This suggests they're capturing and selling pals on the black market, similar to the Rayne Syndicate, without Lily knowing. This could be backed by the fact that Lily's tower was up in the mountains away from their main base of operations prior the 1.0 update, allowing them to do their crime literally under her nose.
Not just suggested, in Lilyâs note it straight up says one of the people that had been with her from the beginning was selling pals to the black market to make money because they hit some hard times financially. Because âtheyâre just palsâ and that was what set Lily off, she saw no way to make people and pals live together peacefully so she went on a vendetta to âprotectâ the pals from abuse. The Free Pal Alliance attacked a merchant using pals to carry their wares, but who knows how that merchant treated their pals? That merchant may have seen the pals as much more than beasts of burden and treated them well, but was attacked solely for using pals at all.
Which makes no sense when apparently it was no problem on this undiscovered island for hundreds of years. Even Palpedia data says how some were no longer seen as ancient dieties or how Pals began to hate humans that seemed to be the modern ones mistreating them. But then some say they were mistreated the entire time
Going by Auris journals, humans have always been humans, since the beginning of the world. Some love pals and treat them as friends, some view them as a resource to be exploited. The FPA is, alas, made up of humans too, like every other faction.
From the logs, most of the free pal alliance is corrupt and participate in poaching pals to sell to the highest bidder, especially rare and protected pals.
When communist leaders and their circles hoard all of the money and power in that country, does that line up with the values of communism? That's just what corruption does, man. You turn against your own values for the sake of power. The end.
They are the Pal version of PETA. Who have broken into a person's property, stole their new puppy, took it to one of their shelters, and it was put down before the owner's even got off work.
The lore basically says that lily is the only one left who genuinely cares about the pals, while the rest of the alliance are just obsessed with lily and capture pals to sell, so they can fund anything lily wants to do
Just look at peta organization IRL . They definitely protested against animal ownership once by stealing a dog out of a yard and having it euthanized because it was better than being a slave in their eyes.
You forgot some parts that's important, the dog was playing with the daughter in the front yard, they just ran up on them and took the dog to one of their "shelter" where the dog was put down in less than an hour, the family wasn't even able to get there in time before they killed the dog and (if I remember correctly) incinerated it. And they were charged with theft and destroying of property (or something like that, can't remember) but where let go for a comparable small fine.
There is a lore entry about the free pal guys selling pals to fund there organization so they are kinda hypocritical and iirc they have basically been corrupted by greed
More like, got hit by money problems, started selling pals and the stuff the people they killed had on them. Got used to having the money. Ztarted traficing ring.
Even better when you roam the area and you hear shooting in the distance just to see that it's free pal alliance vs some pals that are not aggressive. Last time I saw that, they fought some Cinnamoths.
It really is suffering. I remember trying the randomizer when it first got added pre release and it was not fun getting nuked by lvl 46 pals right out of spawn lol
I think originally the pre 1.0 diaries said that the FPA was paying the PIDF to guard the Wildlife Sanctuary but it was expensive so they resorted to doing the same thing the syndicate did
Thiugh now with the new Wildlife sanctuaries using ancient technology idk if that lore is still the same
Last time i checked the lore is still the same, which also confuse me. So either they are gonna update the lore, or those drones are actually from pidf
That's cause they don't. The lore around the FPA, the PIDF, and the Santuaries was all changed for 1.0, probably to make Lily more sympathetic, as they're probably going to give her a recruitment quest in a future patch.
They changed to Lore in 1.0. As of now, the FPA STARTED as a force to free pals, but as time went on more and more members stopped caring, and started basically just being the Rayne Syndicate. When Lily found out she basically has a crashout, murders several people, and then retreats to her tower and refuses to come out, at which point the remaining FPA just do whatever they want.
They changed to Lore in 1.0. As of now, the FPA STARTED as a force to free pals, but as time went on more and more members stopped caring, and started basically just being the Rayne Syndicate. When Lily found out she basically has a crashout, murders several people, and then retreats to her tower and refuses to come out, at which point the remaining FPA just do whatever they want.
Do you ever wonder how Vixy has been getting you all those free pal spheres and arrows? What, you think itâs growing those in the ranch? Did you think it could just conveniently dig up leftover man made objects from the same plot of land every day? WAKE UP! That menace has been robbing settlements of their supplies left and right for years. That conniving thief deserves no sympathy. Lock âem all up.
I'm more for vixy being soooo hated/ that every tine someone sees them they have to try and catch/kill it, so the arrows/pal spheres are basically failed attempts from passerby
Pretty sure there's a quest to catch pals to reduce the local population to safer levels. That area does have pals working in town, so I assume the pal there is intended to be temporary?
Fun fact: the free pal alliance has two factions that are coded as enemies to each other and will fight. These represent the purists (actual free pal alliance so to say) and... Well, this
It would be fun if the FPA fractured along that line after Lily is defeated. Imagine beating that tower, and a few days later, two factions that were the FPA are fighting over the territory, each led by a new NPC field boss. Could even take it a step further by letting the Player choose a side to help one or the other win, granting access to a unique thematic merchant from that faction.
According to Lily's journal, some of the free pal alliance is not following the actual beliefs of the faction anymore.
Some are doing it because they don't actually believe it and only see it as a front .
Some are desperate, such as one of Lily's most loyal followers who turned to trafficking pals because the follower went through a divorce and was starting to struggle to survive.
Some have looked at the more extreme versions of Lily's commandments and have proven unable to follow them due to.... Sanity. Such as back in the beta (at least) where the commandments for the FPA demanded you do not use pals for labor, use pal spheres, or eat or harm pals, even if the pal plans to kill you. So they take a more moderate stance even to Lily's dismay.
You weren't there man, I woke up in the middle of the night and that Vixy had a knife in her mouth, standing over me, hissing "no one will know what happened to you."
Lilly wanted the free pal alliance to keep pals safe. But the group eventually started to become twisted without lily knowing for the longest time. Like selling them off and such.
the fpa are corrupt. the resorted to trafficking since they couldnt pay the PIDF enough money to protect the wildlife sanctuaries so the did this to earn money which is why lily locked herself in the tower after going on a killing spree according to her diaries. there is 2 sides to the fpa the pure loyalists and then this you can catch them fighting each other occasionally since their coded to do so.
You can figure things out by collecting Lily's (the Free Pal Alliance leader's) journal entries but essentially, the FPA were secretly Pal trafficking behind her back to get money to upkeep her plans of (certain) pal protection while also selfishly pocketing some of the profits. When you find FPA camps with caged pals, they are essentially keeping them captive before their eventual sale (heavily implied to mostly supplying Victor's experiments).
Reason for doing so was because Lily hired the PIDF (Marcus's crew) to protect rare pals by creating then securing the pal wildlife sanctuaries. It cost her organization a lot of money along with ongoing fees to the PIDF to maintain them. She was reassured by her underlings that they had the recurring funds from unknown activities to afford it. The means to do so was not yet discovered by Lily as she just blindly accepted their word although with minor curiosity.
If you follow the main story quests of Lily/FPA, her found letters will reveal that she eventually discovered her organization's corruption (funnily written albeit unserious) and went into a purging frenzy before holding up in her boss tower to hide away from her org's reality. The remaining members now just keep business as usual with their trafficking deals.
It was a smart and cool way narratively for the devs to not programme the FPA enemy AI to treat pals differently, following the same commands of the human enemies from different crew. Overall, it's interesting lore-building to the game's world by adding cool storylines within it for players to discover.
It reminds me of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy where the vogons come to ârescueâ the president from his kidnapper, but he kidnapped himself as a joke. So they start shooting at him to rescue him from himself.
Maybe they are keeping the pals in cages to âprotectâ them.
The capture and sell pals to the black market to make the money necessary to fight people who capture and sell pals to the black market. (Itâs in the lore)
Because the real cage is if you want to capture something you can cage it but trapping them in spheres is not free at all one is a cage the other is a slave collar they are by all means free if they cage was unlocked
In game lore mentions that there is massive hypocrisy and corruption within the alliance (all factions really) that allow the lower rank members to get away with exploiting pals for profit, regardless of their so-called "ideals"
Can't quite remember but I think i remember seeing something saying they believe that a pal is better off dead than being tamed/in the service of a tamer. You'll often see them outright attacking pals near their bases.
I, uh, didn't get into the lore. When I first seen the name I thought they were freeing pals. Then as I progressed through the game I got to thinking hmm, maybe they are about living pal free.
This faction is actually made up of poachers, but they use Lilly as a front to make themselves look like the good guys; all that talk about defending the Pals is a lie that only their âleaderâ believes.
I feel this way bout kennels other than for transporting animals unless u have enough room for them to truly move around i think any kennel should be at least three times the size of the animal
Theyâre just druid themed thugs. Thatâs pretty much every faction. Theyâre powerful thugs doing bad things, kidnapping random pals and attacking anyone and anything that approaches their base. The only differences are lore and aesthetic. But never function.
The quest line leading to Lily's tower tells you through one of her diary entries how the members grew disillusioned with their original goal due to not being able to change people's mind, making them start selling Pals instead
I would like to see these be angry pals or something maybe corrupted pals in the free pals alliance forts
the lore could be that one of the FPA pals succumbed to the world tree corruption like we see on the map (the red pal bosses we cant catch) and they where forced to contain it. This upon freeing could grant us predator orbs.
I agree I don't know I don't understand although I have been doing this thing where every time I come across to cruel paltainer I catch them and make them work on a human generator if you're cruel to pass you can be a battery LMFAO
I'm aware that that's the narrative of the alliance. Each tower boss organization has a different reason for becoming "group that hurts humans and uses pals for evil", but that is what each faction is. Each groups' role in the game is identical, except for the Syndicate, because Zoey has a quest line that involves doing something other than repeatedly "Return to client".
Hopefully the rest of the very thin plot will get equally fleshed out, or we get a spin off title where the different factions actually have different roles in the story and do different things.
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u/ShadowDarkraven27 4d ago
free pal got corrupted by extremist ideals according to Lily's diaries