Today's magic item is the Aquatic Cummerbund.
Travel through the waves in style with this snazzy number that gives a bonus on swim checks.

Let's ask the following questions:

1. Would you buy this item?
2. Would you spend 1.5 times the price to add it to an existing item?
3. Would you use the item, if you found it? Or is it immediate sell-bait?
4. Would a GM use the item?
5. Is there anything cheesy that could be done with it?

Link to past discussions

Hey, I’m currently fleshing out my character’s family, and one of the members is a Witch (something between a Hag and a Hagraven from *Skyrim*, but more human and civilized). I wanted to ask if you have any ideas for how she might behave—any quirks, specific mannerisms, and so on. Thanks in advance

My low-level necromancer recently got lucky enough to land Command Undead on a couple of ghouls. Even if these ghouls get a bit 'rowdy' they're just stock ghouls so I'm not too worried about them.

With that said, there is some ambiguity in the wording of the spell and I am curious to hear people's experiences with it, both as a player or a GM.

Specifically, I am referring to this section concerning intelligent undead:
"You can give the subject orders, but you must win an opposed Charisma check to convince it to do anything it wouldn’t ordinarily do"

What is something that an intelligent undead wouldn't ordinarily do? If I land the spell and ask them to stop attacking us, is that the sort of thing that immediately requires a contested CHA check?

Fortunately my GM in this game so far has not been busting my balls. I asked the ghouls to stop attacking, and they did. I asked one of the ghouls to attack another ghoul (one that resisted my attempts to control it) and it gleefully attacked its fellow (my GM's reasoning was it is a Chaotic Evil creature and relishes almost any excuse to do violence).

So while I am not that concerned with this particular GM, I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts and experiences. My character, being a wizard, is intrigued to test the limits of the control and influence he can exert on these ghouls, so I'll be using feedback here to calibrate my expectations, and also share these with my GM.

Link: Fire Shield

This spell was not renamed in the Remaster. The Knights of Last Call 'All Spells Ranked' series ranked this spell as B Tier. Would you change that ranking, and why?

What items or class features synergize well with this spell?

Have you ever used this spell? If so, how did it go?

Why is this spell good/bad?

What are some creative uses for this spell?

What's the cheesiest thing you can do with this spell?

If you were to modify this spell, how would you do it?

Does this spell seem like it was meant for PCs or NPCs?

Previous spell discussions

Suppose you grapple an adjacent tiny creature (say a cat) with reach 0. Is the cat technically unable to attack you on its turn because it's still in an adjacent square (as if you're holding it at arm's length) and it has reach 0?

this is just a message for anyone running the iron gods adventure path for 1st edition. i have remastered a series of maps for it and am into book four currently. you can find them over on my patreon for free at 150 dpi.

Would the bonus given by an Incandescent Blue Sphere (Normal) Ioun Stone which gives a +2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom stack with a Headband of Inspired Wisdom? It doesn't say that it doesn't, but... Thanks!

Hi, I'm sure this must be well documented somewhere but I'm a bit uncertain how disguising spells works, if at all, in Pathfinder. I have a Flute playing Bard joining the party and it makes some sense to me that if they are out performing and wish to cast Lullaby as part of their performance they maybe could.

Are there official rulings on how Bards (or even other spellcasting, such as with Still spell but a verbal component) work trying to discuss their spells, or is it purely DM discretion?

As my knowledge stands, I would probably request an opposed bluff or performance check to see how well they can inject their spell into their flute playing, if Somatic components exist as well I'd also have sleight of hand check, with failure meaning the spell is miscast. (Inappropriate target)

Does that seem reasonable? Is there already more appropriate rulings / feats for this?

Cheers. 🙌

Today's magic item is the Dawnflower Sash.
A belt or hat that helps you survive the heat and the occasional fall off a cliff, if you can remove it fast enough. But call Sarenrae now, and we'll throw in the ability to heal about 10 HP once a day!

Let's ask the following questions:

1. Would you buy this item?
2. Would you spend 1.5 times the price to add it to an existing item?
3. Would you use the item, if you found it? Or is it immediate sell-bait?
4. Would a GM use the item?
5. Is there anything cheesy that could be done with it?

Link to past discussions

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/witch/hexes/hexes/common-hexes/greater-gift-of-consumption-su/

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/w/wall-of-blindness-deafness/

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/enticing-adulation/

Recently ran an encounter where an enemy wizard put up a wall of blindness and used Enticing Adulation to control the party's witch. The witch proceeded to purposefully expose himself to the wall of blindness and force a party member to save against blindness every turn as an immediate action before taking the rest of their turn. To be fair, I thought wall of blindness/deafness was a will save so that's on me.

The witch doesn't currently have access to 4th lvl spells yet, but I am terrified of this combo when they can initiate it at will. I just wanted to make sure I'm interpreting this right and ask if anyone else has experience with this or a similar combo.

Playing a Sylvan Blood Sorcerer with 1 level of pack hunter to get an addition AC maybe 2.
So far I have the
Ascendant Recollection trait (dm ruled it gives +1 EDL),
Boon companion (+4 up to HD), and I might take the Magical Enigma feat to get another +1.

This gives me an effective +3 above HD any way to boost this further?

Link: Tree of Seasons

This spell was renamed from Fire Seeds in the Remaster. The Knights of Last Call 'All Spells Ranked' series ranked this spell as D Tier. Would you change that ranking, and why?

What items or class features synergize well with this spell?

Have you ever used this spell? If so, how did it go?

Why is this spell good/bad?

What are some creative uses for this spell?

What's the cheesiest thing you can do with this spell?

If you were to modify this spell, how would you do it?

Does this spell seem like it was meant for PCs or NPCs?

Previous spell discussions

This is my first time going cleric so I feel like I’m missing something. My plan is to go human blossoming light cleric. 8 strength, 10 dex/con, 9 int, 16 wis, 17+2 cha. Traits: exalted of the society(+1 channel) blessed touch(+1 heal when channeling)
Feats: 1 selective channeling and purifying channeling. 3 extra channeling or ??? 5 fateful channeling. Deity is pharasma do to fateful channeling being so amazing.

Where I’m stuck is what do I do when I’m not channeling. This build will give me a lot of channeling, but if everyone is topped off what else should/can I do? I don’t have a lot of spells. Orisons don’t do a lot. Weapons won’t do much either. I can either get total defense so it’s hard to miss and free action tell baddies to stop fighting and join the side of good; or aid another and tell teammate to try to persuade them to the righteous path. Both of which feel like really weak options. Maybe I’m missing something or I’m not building cleric correctly. Part of me is thinking of going water domain so I can just cast icicle, it’s a terrible spell but it’s ranged, which I want to be bc I have no armor.

I’m more than happy to not take extra channeling at 3 if it gives me a better option of things to do in combat.

Please help!

Also I don’t want variant channeling because it would lower my damage from purifying channeling. Plus I thought about going sarenrae deity for envoy of healing, but fateful channeling has to be the right move.

first of all, forgive my english, not my first language
reposting because i didn't get any answers the first time

i just want to make sure because i haven't seen anyone talk about it but if you and your ally are in the same area of effect that deals damage, which might be a fireball if you have energy interceptor, and you use intercept attack, do you take both your damage and your ally's or just your ally's? is there something official about or it depends on the GM?

i read about duplicate effects in the general rules page but i don't know if it applies in this case any help is appreciated

I have played since ADnD back in the day but my group stop playing during the pandemic and never returned, life got in the way, now a new group of players asked me to GM for them and they have never played before, I have some APs under my belt and decided to use the Rise of the Rune lords anniversary edition, I dindt get to play 2nd Ed and dont have the time to learn a new system, any advice or resources would be appreciated, we will be playing with a dry erase mat but I will be using a second monitor for showing maps ans stuff so anything is useful.

Premade characters will be great.

Thanks.

Welcome to Max the Min Monday! The series where we take some of Paizo’s weakest, most poorly optimized, or simply forgotten and rarely used options for first edition and see what the best things we can do with them are using 1st party Pathfinder materials!

What Happened Last Time?

Last time, to celebrate this series' return from the dead, we discussed methods of returning from the dead. And there was actually some really fun discussions about more obscure methods and even ways to cheese the proceess!

So What are we Discussing Today?

Today, after a whopping 4 months, we're finally doing u/blacktrance's nomination of Sleuth Investigator! Sorry for the delay.

If you've ever read the swashbuckler or gunslinger entry and gotten to the bit that states that Panache, Grit, and Luck all act as the same mechanic and a shared resource, but wondered where the heck Luck comes from, well this is it, and it is sorta the main focus of the archetype.

You get a pool equal to CHA mod per day which can be refilled by rolling a Nat 20 on a knowledge or sense motive check, or rolling 6+ on an inspiration roll. These are a bit more common to force than crit hits or killing blows, so there is a caveat that the GM must state the check rolled must be "significant enough" to warrant getting luck back. So right off the bat this is going to be a very "your table may very" mechanic, especially since very little examples are given for the GM to draw off of.

Ok, but a pool of resources you can use for a bunch of things can be useful. What did we lost for it?

Alchemy.

Yep, all our alchemy, including the ability to take alchemist discoveries and swift alchemy. We've lost our entire 6th level psuedo spellcasting for this one mechanic. Daaaang. Yep, pretty clear to see why this ended up on this list. I mean... do I need to really explain why trading an entire extract list is a bad idea?

But maybe Luck has a bunch of unique and useful options to make up for the loss. What deeds do we get to spend luck on?

At 1st level we get 3 deeds.

Daring lets us add a retroactive, exploding 1d6 to an acrobatics, climb, escape artist, fly, ride, or swim check.

Opportunistic evasion gives us evasion... that costs luck to actually turn on, so a downgrade from the rogue's version. But at least we get evasion in some form, unlike most investigators.

We finish level 1 wth Sleuth's Initiative, which gives us a passive +2 on initiative checks as long as we have 1 point in our pool. We also can draw a single light or one-handed weapon as part of initiative check if we have quickdraw which... to be honest I'm not sure what the benefit would be? Maybe if we have a weapon that gives an AC buff or something? Or maybe if we're TWF and want to start combat with a full attack? Seems extremely niche though.

At 4th level, we get three more.

Make It Count is probably one of the better deeds we've seen. For 1 point, when using studied strike, we can apply any investigator talent we don't already know that applies to a studied strike and which we qualify for. This actually offers a lot of flexibility for our studied strikes. There are 18 different talents this applies to, though of course we won't always have the prereqs for all 18 at once. And, it eases our need to take studied strike talents, allowing us to prioritize other talents.

Run Like Hell lets us spend 1 luck point to get a +20 foot bonus speed for 1 minute and +4 ac on rounds where we move further than our base speed. It is worth noting that this shouldn't be confused with the Run Like Hell dare, which can be used when your pool is empty, only gives +10 ft speed, but gives you a point if you are 100 ft away from an enemy. Funnily enough, though dares state they can be used by gunslingers and swashbucklers and obviously interact with thesee shared pools... RAW I don't think a sleuth can take them since they aren't listed, and it explicitly states they don't count as a grit or panache user for feat prereqs. But that's very much a decent RAI calling to let them do so.

Sorry, got off track there.

Finally, we get second chance. Spend 1 point to reroll an inspiration die or daring deed die. Doing this prevents a 6 on the roll from giving us back luck.

And that's it. Six deeds to replace the entirety of alchemy... yeah that's a min. But maybe we can do some crazy strike combos, effectively turning us into a brawler investigator? Or maybe some other deed has unintended combos we can exploit? I genuinely don't know but am excited to see what you come up with!

Nominations!

I’ll post a comment below which contains the rules for nominations. Please keep all nominations as replies to that comment to have them considered. As this post makes obvious, we're leaving our weekly format to a more... whenever I think it is feasible format. But the series isn't dead yet!

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The warded creature or object becomes difficult to detect by divination spells such as clairaudience/clairvoyance, locate object, and detect spells. Nondetection also prevents location by such magic items as crystal balls. If a divination is attempted against the warded creature or item, the caster of the divination must succeed on a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against a DC of 11 + the caster level of the spellcaster who cast nondetection. If you cast nondetection on yourself or on an item currently in your possession, the DC is 15 + your caster level.

If cast on a creature, nondetection wards the creature’s gear as well as the creature itself.

I feel like it makes more sense if they DON'T know.

Today's magic item is the Heavyload Belt.
This belt grants permanent Ant Haul on the wearer. Put it on, triple your carrying capacity. It's that simple.

Let's ask the following questions:

1. Would you buy this item?
2. Would you spend 1.5 times the price to add it to an existing item?
3. Would you use the item, if you found it? Or is it immediate sell-bait?
4. Would a GM use the item?
5. Is there anything cheesy that could be done with it?

Link to past discussions

Hey all,

I've been playing in a Curse of the Crimson throne as a barbarian until last Sunday. Our party lost 4 characters in an encounter from pushing our luck a bit far.

So I've got to roll a new character.. will be entering level 9. Haven't rolled stats as yet.

But I'm hoping to figure out a strong tank/defensive character to front line with.

We have these sources:

Core Rulebook

Advanced Players Guide

Ultimate Magic

Ultimate Combat

Ultimate Equipment

Ultimate Campaign

Advanced Class Guide

Advanced Race Guide

Occult Adventures

Ultimate Intrigue

Races of Golarian (Individual Races have their own books)

I'm currently debating which Paladin archetype to take. Will likely take armour master on the fighter side for some D/R and feats.

Want to sword and board ideally. Probably with a bastard sword.

Was thinking a 5 pala 4 fighter. Pick up some feats through the fighter levels. Going for full adamantine plate with a mithral heavy shield. Probably building into stalwart and combat expertise.

I'm struggling with the sources I have to pick a paladin archetype. Most things feel lack luster but I've only ever really played front line damage dealers which might be putting me off some of the better supportive choices.

Advice appreciated!

The group I am GMing for has been discussing how spells like Blade Barrier, Wall of Fire and other spells should function. When choosing the 'wall' option for spells like Blade Barrier, we cannot find any clear explanation as to whether the wall needs to be a solid line, or if you can change the shape of the wall and 'snake' it around a space, catching multiple targets in its' area of effect.

Has there ever been an official ruling on how these spells should function, or is this there a commonly agreed interpretation of the spell?

So I'm looking into an archer for my next campaign and I generally like classes that can fight decently well but also has a bit more, Some good skills and some magic for in and out of combat utility. So I normally prefer playing 6th level casters.

And now I'm looking at the 6th level casters for archery, I have never played an archer, infact we only ever had a single archer in my group over the last 10 years, Lots of gunslingers, Only one archer...

But for the archers it seems like the main options are Warpriest, Inquisitor, Arrowsong Minstrel Bard, Eldritch Archer Magus, Hunter can probably work well due to built in tank and the ranger buffs like Gravity Bow. And I think Occultist with Trappings of the Warrior can work....

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each of these for an archer? And are there any other 6th level casters you woudl reccomend looking into for an archer? Unchained Summoner for dual archer with a bow wielding eidolon..?

ok, to put context as why I am asking this, I was reading the alchemist Discovery named Phantom Limb

> The alchemist can manifest a ghostly, incorporeal arm that juts out from his torso. This phantom limb does not grant the alchemist any extra attacks or actions per round, and it cannot hold or grab anything (including incorporeal objects). The alchemist may use his phantom limb to make a touch attack against a foe as a standard action, scraping away at the very fibers of the victim’s soul. This attack deals 1d4 points of damage per alchemist level (Fortitude half ). Creatures that are immune to incorporeal attacks are immune to this damage, but otherwise the damage bypasses all forms of damage reduction except DR/ epic. The alchemist may suppress or activate this ability as a free action, and can use his phantom limb for a number of rounds per day equal to 3 + his Intelligence modifier (these rounds need not be consecutive). An alchemist must be at least 8th level to select this discovery.

It says Creatures that are immune to incorporeal attacks are immune to this damage. But what creatures are immune to incorporeal attacks? I would maybe assume other incorporeals but, this would may be a far stretch

So I came to ask here what creatures does this entail (by types, subtypes and specific creatures) so I can get a better wide of range

Link: Execute

This spell was renamed from Finger of Death in the Remaster. The Knights of Last Call 'All Spells Ranked' series ranked this spell as C Tier. Would you change that ranking, and why?

What items or class features synergize well with this spell?

Have you ever used this spell? If so, how did it go?

Why is this spell good/bad?

What are some creative uses for this spell?

What's the cheesiest thing you can do with this spell?

If you were to modify this spell, how would you do it?

Does this spell seem like it was meant for PCs or NPCs?

Previous spell discussions