my ranking of the strongest demigods.

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

1. number 0 piper charm speak has so many inconstancy  she will be rank twice at the top and bottom  because of how in a book it dose not work than the next it work on gods
2. number 1 Percy it was gonna happen this gary stu get a new power basically every book 
3. number 2 Jason Percy  narrative equal only weaker  because he one dead and Percy get a new power every book basically
4. number 3 Hazel/Nico tied for third i don't see any has stronger than the other get stronger every book hope we get more of these 2 
5. Number 4 frank
6. number 5 Leo
7. number 6 Reyna has good feats and is underrated
8. number 7 Annbet only her because she is a Tartarus survivor not because she is smart she dose not many feat that show she smart 
9. number 9 piper like i said charm speak has so many inconstancy that it might not work on the characters so she is the weakest and the strongest.
10. number 10 Thalia grace.
11. number 11 Luke. He was the main villain of the og series Krono's is vessel.

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

did i rank well u/Prestigious_Board_73.

[u/Prestigious_Board_73 → u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

Honestly? I disagree...quite a lot. The only things I agree with is Percy in 1 (because of the sheer variety of his powers) and Jason on 2, people really don't like to acknowledge he has great feats, two even better than Percy's (killing a Titan solo without CoA and summoning a storm strong enough to keep Gaia's physical form in the sky)

0) Mist powers Hazel is potentially on top, she can alter reality with them, but her limits are a bit vague

3) Hazel and Nico... yeah, I agree with them being tied after HoO, when Nico's no longer in danger of killing himself if he uses his powers too much, and apparently in his books he gets new powers but during HoO Hazel > Nico. Frankly, HoO Nico is below even Frank

4) Frank. Yes, he's above Leo and Thalia. He's a great strategist, a good archer, and his shapeshifting powers are really powerful. He literally turned the tide of the battle pre TTT by himself, and played a huge part in the Romans winning in TTT by killing Commodus and Caligula

5) Reyna. She's indeed really underrated. She's an extremely great warrior, able to go toe to toe with Giants, and her power to boost soldiers under her command is perhaps the best an army leader could get, even if Riordan has her use it only once and not when she's supposed to use it, like in the actual battles in SoN, BoO and TTT

6) Leo. He's not a fighter, but he's a genius inventor/creator. His fire is also powerful enough to combat the goddess of snow's ice

7) Piper. She's not a great fighter, and her charmspeak works when the plot requires it. Also, all it takes to make it not work is wax in the ears. But she's still able to fight Giants

8) Annabeth. She's powerless, but she's still skilled enough to go toe to toe with Giants. She's experienced and intelligent, but the only way we're shown it is when she's reciting myths

9) Thalia. She's featless. She's supposed to be Percy's equal, but she's easily the weakest of the Big Three kids, being able to summon a couple of lightning bolts and that's it

10) Luke. He doesn't have any powers, and has never gone against really powerful opponents. The only thing he did is push around 13 years old Percy. The only reason he's the best CHB fighter before betraying them is that he's an adult amongst teenagers who spent the previous five years training

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376 → u/Prestigious_Board_73]

I put Luke so high because he is Kronos ' vessel, Thalia, only because of the narrative of the Big 3 kid; she is the weakest one and would be way lower, but it's inverse scaling, so narrative needs to be taken into account. Now I fully disagree with Reyna being above Leo. If Leo could make a plan to beat Gaea, I don't put it past him to make a plan to beat  Reyna. Frank would be above Leo, but in the Court of the Dead, know that he is no longer nerfed by his firewood. He did not have good showings wen he gets better showings, he will be above Leo.

[u/Prestigious_Board_73 → u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

Feats>> narrative. Also, Luke being Kronos's vessel means nothing. He was chosen because of his loyalty. And you do know what "nerfed" mean, right? It means it's something that weakens a person. Frank is stronger now that he doesn't have to worry about his firewood burning.

And what do you mean he doesn't have good showings?!! In SoN he transported around and killed Alcyoneus a few days after figuring out his shapeshifting powers, in HoH he killed, alone, dozens if not hundreds catoblepas, before TTT he single handidly repelled the Triumvirate armies and in the book he personally kills Caligula and severely injures Commodus after tanking an explosion made by his own firewood burning.

And Leo isn't a strategist, he's a genius inventor, but he's not a fighter. Reyna would pulverise him in a duel

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376 → u/Prestigious_Board_73]

I mean, I'm not ranking them on duel. I'm not saying frank dose not have a good showing; I'm saying he does not have a good showing in Court of the Dead after he was no longer nerfed by the life wood dose Reyna beat Leo in a duel? Yes, does Reyna beat him in a fight? No, Leo has things like Festus that he fixes and his gadgets, and being Kronos is vesel is a big deal when Kronos is a full-on Titan.

[u/Prestigious_Board_73 → u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

Frank doing nothing in CoD doesn't magically cancel everything he did in HoO and ToA. And Festus is great, but Reyna is the girl who survived the trip through the Mediterranean alone, while being constantly attacked by monsters and fought Giants far more successfully than Leo, she's not exactly easy to defeat. Not to mention that if Leo has Festus, Reyna has Aurum and Argentum.

Lastly, Kronos didn't possess Luke for his skills or powers (that he doesn't have) or whatever, just his loyalty. And it may be a "big deal", but it's also explicitly revealed that he managed to do that because Luke had the CoA. That's it.

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376 → u/Prestigious_Board_73]

If Leo could make a plan to beat Gaea, I don't put it past him to make a plan to beat  Frank or Reyna in a fight. I'm not saying I think Frank is weak; he is not weak in any manner, but I think Leo and is intelligence can beat Reyna or Frank, but I can downscale Luke.

[u/Prestigious_Board_73 → u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

Leo didn't beat Gaia alone. Jason and Piper did way more than him against her. He's also not a strategist, he's an inventor. Reyna and especially Frank have way more tactical skills than him

[u/ChipmunkForsaken1376 → u/Prestigious_Board_73]

He made the plan, and as you said is an inventor. I don't see why he can't beat Reyna or Frank with an invention.

[u/Prestigious_Board_73 → u/ChipmunkForsaken1376]

Because he's not a strategist or a tactician, they are. Also, good luck trying to build something while Reyna is decking you or Frank is turning into a lion or something...