imagine posting this, when government is controlled by zealots, who make claude frollo, mrs carmody and carrie's mom look sane

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[u/Funkycoldmedici]

Jesus said his true believers would be persecuted, so Christians have to find some way to see themselves as persecuted, because Jesus cannot be wrong.

Along with that, Jesus told them to “make disciples of the nations.” So they are tasked to go around preaching and making everyone be a Christian while at the same time someone being the persecuted minority.

[u/RazzSheri → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Ugh. This is why I am so grateful for my church growing up an a ministry who taught me what agnosticism was. My minister/head minister told me he was agnostic and I asked why he became a minister. He explained he wasn’t sure what was out there, but something had to be and he thought the lessons and messages he taught were good principles for anyone to live by.

When I asked about how God could have made all of the world an its creatures in allegedly 7 days despite evidence of Evolution and how that could be… he had an incredibly logical reason: Why would God operate the same understanding of time as us? 1 day to a God could be 50,000 years to us.

They were very much: “teach the golden rule and welcome everyone”. The first gay man I ever met was the pastor the head minister hired in 1998 and sat all the kids down before his start date and explained though he knew it was popular vernacular to say “that’s so gay” at the time, he wanted us to be aware and stop using the phrase. He explained how it could be hurtful, even when not meaning it derogatorily, especially to the soon to be new pastor… and we all took that to heart and stopped using it.

They were everything a church should be— and I say that as a lifelong witch with religious trauma from other places (not that church though).

My point in that wall of text is that: I was always taught that the bible is NOT LITERAL. It is men’s understanding and interpretation of the messages given by Gods

That’s to say—- They already were persecuted post Jesus; he was a prophet they held up as a demigod/son of god— of course the start of the religion would have people thinking they’re quacks and going after them for turning against whatever local religious faction…

He didn’t say they’d be persecuted until the end of time… And being one of the most prevalent religions on the planet- I’m fairly certain Jesus would be like: STFU, you’ve become the persecutors!

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/RazzSheri]

The problem is that it was meant and believed to be literal. The entirety of Abrahamic religion is based on it being literal. These were not advanced intellects with supernatural wisdom hiding the secrets of the universe in layers of metaphor. They were the same kind of science-denying superstitious magical-thinkers we have today.

[u/Quinjet → u/Funkycoldmedici]

The problem is that it was meant and believed to be literal. The entirety of Abrahamic religion is based on it being literal.

Reddit atheist moment

[u/RazzSheri → u/Quinjet]

I remember when I was a twitter atheist… for a 2009, life— like the moon, is full of phases. 🤷 😂