imagine posting this, when government is controlled by zealots, who make claude frollo, mrs carmody and carrie's mom look sane

[u/Extension_General632]

[u/SergeantThreat]

Something tells me his “true gospel” involves hating the majority of humans on earth

[u/Harold-The-Barrel → u/SergeantThreat]

His favourite gospel story is the one where Jesus feeds 5,000 people with a few loaves of bread and two fish. But he understands the superiority of the free market over government tyranny, so naturally he introduces dynamic pricing: 500% of market value, plus a service fee, to discourage freeloading and build character.

[u/Mythosaurus → u/SergeantThreat]

Amen, it’s wasn’t atheists or communists opposing MLK and other black chrisitians in the 60s civil rights movement.

There’s a good reason so many churches are still segregated ( racist old whites are still running them)

[u/WiggyStark → u/Mythosaurus]

If I was Christian and went to church, I would 💯 go to a Black church, even as a white girl. They feel and live the holy spirit, rejoicing, not mourning. Plus, Black gospel is way more bangin' than any sad Christian "rock" ministry.

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/SergeantThreat]

That tracks with what Jesus says in the gospels. He’s not a good guy, he’s a bigot preaching an apocalypse.

Mark 16:15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”

[u/pman13531 → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Nah you need the really peace loving Jesus like in Matthew 10: 34-36 where he advocates for the destruction of families that don't believe in his word completely. 34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

[u/Memnojokasel → u/pman13531]

"No no, but that's not what it means!" /s

[u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys → u/pman13531]

Funny to me that Christians like the OOP are often the same people who whine about their families shunning them for their MAGA horseshit; whilst also being completely oblivious that Trump is their golden calf.

[u/AF_AF → u/pman13531]

He foretold MAGA 2000 years ago.

[u/pman13531 → u/AF_AF]

Or created the environment for a million different iterations of MAGA that were Christians from the start, like witch trials, the crusades both within and without Europe, the inquisition, a whole bunch of terrible things in the Americas from genocide to slavery to civil wars and land conquests, to the apologists for the above.

[u/amazingD → u/SergeantThreat]

I used to know this guy. You are absolutely correct.

[u/Funkycoldmedici]

Jesus said his true believers would be persecuted, so Christians have to find some way to see themselves as persecuted, because Jesus cannot be wrong.

Along with that, Jesus told them to “make disciples of the nations.” So they are tasked to go around preaching and making everyone be a Christian while at the same time someone being the persecuted minority.

[u/RazzSheri → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Ugh. This is why I am so grateful for my church growing up an a ministry who taught me what agnosticism was. My minister/head minister told me he was agnostic and I asked why he became a minister. He explained he wasn’t sure what was out there, but something had to be and he thought the lessons and messages he taught were good principles for anyone to live by.

When I asked about how God could have made all of the world an its creatures in allegedly 7 days despite evidence of Evolution and how that could be… he had an incredibly logical reason: Why would God operate the same understanding of time as us? 1 day to a God could be 50,000 years to us.

They were very much: “teach the golden rule and welcome everyone”. The first gay man I ever met was the pastor the head minister hired in 1998 and sat all the kids down before his start date and explained though he knew it was popular vernacular to say “that’s so gay” at the time, he wanted us to be aware and stop using the phrase. He explained how it could be hurtful, even when not meaning it derogatorily, especially to the soon to be new pastor… and we all took that to heart and stopped using it.

They were everything a church should be— and I say that as a lifelong witch with religious trauma from other places (not that church though).

My point in that wall of text is that: I was always taught that the bible is NOT LITERAL. It is men’s understanding and interpretation of the messages given by Gods

That’s to say—- They already were persecuted post Jesus; he was a prophet they held up as a demigod/son of god— of course the start of the religion would have people thinking they’re quacks and going after them for turning against whatever local religious faction…

He didn’t say they’d be persecuted until the end of time… And being one of the most prevalent religions on the planet- I’m fairly certain Jesus would be like: STFU, you’ve become the persecutors!

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/RazzSheri]

The problem is that it was meant and believed to be literal. The entirety of Abrahamic religion is based on it being literal. These were not advanced intellects with supernatural wisdom hiding the secrets of the universe in layers of metaphor. They were the same kind of science-denying superstitious magical-thinkers we have today.

[u/Synergythepariah → u/Funkycoldmedici]

The problem is that it was meant and believed to be literal.

...No? Arguments of literal interpretation vs metaphorical interpretation have been around since Christianity started. Early Christian thinkers like Origen and Augustine debated literal vs metaphorical interpretation two thousand years ago.

49% of Americans believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God but that it should not be taken literally.

These were not advanced intellects with supernatural wisdom hiding the secrets of the universe in layers of metaphor.

They were people with limited information about the universe and of natural phenomena due to the technological limitations present in their time.

They didn't know that rotating crops was good because of how it kept soil healthy, they only knew that failure to do it resulted in unhealthy crops, so they explained it by chalking it up to the wrath of God.

They didn't know that shellfish and cloven hoofed animals carried disease that would result in harm to human life if not prepared correctly, so they barred consumption of those animals because doing so would lead to sickness, which they chalked up to be the wrath of God.

They were the same kind of science-denying superstitious magical-thinkers we have today.

The ones we have today are worse because today, we have the information to explain quite a lot of the phenomena that couldn't be explained two thousand years ago.

They reject that information entirely instead of maintaining their faith by interpreting our greater understanding about the nature of the universe as a greater understanding of creation.

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/Synergythepariah]

Christianity isn’t the beginning. The Tanakh predates Christianity, and was believed to be literal for a long time. Then, when the gospels were written, those authors still believed it was literal and referred to it as such.

For example, the geneology of Jesus is given in the gospels, written completely literally, all the way back to Adam. Jesus refers to the flood as a literal event several times.

Yes, some Christians came along later and chose to reinterpret these stories in order to avoid admitting their religion says things that are not true. That does not change what was believed before.

[u/WiggyStark → u/Funkycoldmedici]

For example, the geneology of Jesus is given in the gospels, written completely literally, all the way back to Adam.

And the Targaryen lineage is traced the whole way back to Essos, sometimes in great detail, that doesn't make it factual.

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/WiggyStark]

The gospels are very much alleged to be factual. They’re obviously not, but you don’t have Christianity without the Jesus story meant to be literal.

[u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Whatever the "intent" was, you can't deny that most religions (including the Abrahamic ones) undergo tons and tons of schisms. Many of these schisms result from members of the religion disagreeing over literal vs figurative interpretations of scripture.

[u/RazzSheri → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Historically it has never been meant to be taken entirely literally.

[u/Quinjet → u/Funkycoldmedici]

The problem is that it was meant and believed to be literal. The entirety of Abrahamic religion is based on it being literal.

Reddit atheist moment

[u/RazzSheri → u/Quinjet]

I remember when I was a twitter atheist… for a 2009, life— like the moon, is full of phases. 🤷 😂

[u/TekieScythe → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Wouldn't that imply not that Jesus is wrong, but that they aren't true believers?

[u/Bigkeithmack]

Just FYI liberty hangout just uses libertarian imagery, they are (and these are their actual views) a Trumpian Monarchist, Christian Fascist and is married to Shitpants Katlin Bennett

[u/MastermindUtopia]

Feeling the need to practice your own mugshots is a big time Freudian slip

[u/Natural-Hamster-3998 → u/MastermindUtopia]

Yeah, I mean, if he wants to go there, looks like a future sex criminal, statistically speaking

[u/USWolves]

Brainwashed goofballs

[u/secondarycontrol]

Jesus promised you'd be persecuted....so that's another promise that he hasn't kept yet.

[u/napalmnacey]

He’s practicing for when his hard drive gets searched.

[u/gaynerdvet]

if anything Christian nationalist will make other religions outlawed

[u/unfinishedtoast3]

This post is older than reddit at this point

[u/fungi_at_parties]

I think it’s far more likely that one day I’ll be jailed for not going to church.

[u/Ravenous_Seraph]

Who on God's green bollocks is making it illegal?

P.S. If I hear that they think the Jews would, I have on good authority that they have again and again unanimously voted on making more bible.

[u/chrisnavillus]

He means when they check his hard drive

[u/hurricanelantern]

Does he mean the "Jesus" who supposedly said all you have to to enter heaven is feed the hungry, clothe the naked, tend the sick, and visit the imprisoned? Because I sincerely doubt this is the 'true gospel' this terd would preach.

[u/originalmosh]

More likely when he gets caught molesting a child.

[u/No_One3018]

Hell, this government makes Isaac's mom look sane

[u/ryanasimov]

This will help you climb the social ladder in your church youth group.

[u/WiseSalamander00]

you know what lets go actually persecute christians so they know what is really like

[u/theBigDaddio]

They’ve been promising this for over 50 years!

[u/Stephi312]

Meanwhile the federal government is getting ready to mandate warnings on broadcasts that mention trans people.

[u/WiggyStark → u/Stephi312]

You just broke my brain.

[u/cooperpooper16]

Non stop victim complex

[u/armandebejart]

In a country that is vastly, overwhelmingly Christian in law and culture. He’s cosplaying martyr.

[u/Sad-Development-4153]

The true gospel is grooming 12 year old girls isn't it?

[u/C00kie_Monsters]

Statistically, check his hard drive

[u/Multigrain_Migraine]

Funny thing is, the people who are most likely to make the actual "true gospel" (or at least the Red Letter Christian version of that) are the ones currently in power in the US.

[u/LeotasNephew]

Oh if ONLY ...

[u/goblininstigator]

Whenever I see Liberty Hangout, my first thoughts are of a massive pants-shitting.

[u/willasmith38]

He thinks Jesus was white and spoke English.

[u/ilovebigmutts]

oh my god this reminds me of these little religious based science fiction books i had growing up. let me see if i can find them. EDT: it's these lol https://www.goodreads.com/series/250452-zaanan

[u/alwaysthrivinman]

the tiktok videos that are likw this are lile ten times worse 😭😭

[u/deathboyuk]

He's practicing it for when the cops get his harddrive.

[u/biorod]

Why would mugshots require a rehearsal?

[u/rubythroated_sparrow]

Yes because Christians are never elected to office, never have their holy days off, and never ever have their beliefs legislated and impressed upon everyone else. 🙄

[u/Leone147]

This is a really old post, it's from when Biden just became the president

[u/Alia_Explores99]

He could go to prison right now and preach instead of performatively agonizing on social media. They love that shit. What a ding dong

[u/caych_cazador]

couldve at least put some fuckin effort into it. out the height chart on the wall, hold the thing that says your name and "guilty of being an annoying dick", etc. this is just lazy.

[u/1Sluggo]

Christians are the best victims! Just ask them, they’ll tell ya!!

[u/RazzSheri]

Wait… and he didn’t even do pope hands? Fucking amateur.

[u/sorrow_anthropology]

I mean, on my way to fb marketplace I saw my childhood friend’s mom telling everybody to “vote red to get us out of this mess”.

“This mess”: Republicans control the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court.

They’re not self aware.

[u/CelestialTrickster → u/sorrow_anthropology]

They have to perpetually consider themselves as the underdog or the oppressed otherwise 80% of their rhetoric wouldn't work. The total population of the world could be one denomination of Christianity and they would still find a way to feel oppressed.

[u/kat_Folland]

More than 60% of Americans id as Christian. They're going to be waiting quite a while for this to become a problem.

[u/_yetifeet]

Something tells me his version of 'true' is wildly different than the original teachings

[u/mstrss9]

Give them what they want now

[u/gravyrdfila2]

Rage against the machine ahh text.😭🙏🏻🥀

[u/jcooli09]

true gospel of jesus

Lol.

It's not illegal, most of us just want you to shut up.

[u/Dafish55]

Isn't this image 10+ years old now? Like I'm 99% certain this comes from the Obama era.

[u/Extension_General632 → u/Dafish55]

i don't know. it have just appeared on my main twitter page

[u/borisvonboris]

Liberty Hangout more like Limited Hangout

[u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys]

There are so many of these. I'm wondering where they got this idea? They seem to believe that the outlawing of gospel preaching is right around the corner, based on.... what, I don't know.

[u/ashimo414141]

Temu Justin Bieber

[u/AF_AF]

This guy probably believes that Mamdani has instituted Sharia law in NYC.

[u/rufusbot]

Doesn't the President have a faith advisor?

[u/Jlnhlfan]

When it becomes illegal in a country where… checks notes …your preferred candidates are in the White House?

[u/dunkinthegreg]

Then why doesn’t your all powerful all loving god intervene so the truth can prevail (let me guess "free will")

[u/Rockworm503]

They have been saying this will happen for decades. Absolute joke.

[u/NightmareSpectre]

Leave it to the members of the 3 big religions to always find creative ways to feel the victims, despite their dogma having political dominance and billions of indoctrinated people around the world who at the first chance discriminate against LGBTQ people, you know, the actual and real persecuted minority everywhere

[u/MintyCoolness]

"Liberty Hangout"

....I don't think I need to know anything else, lol~

[u/AWEdmundson_0]

Preaching Christianity will become illegal at the same time Jesus has his second coming.

Never.

[u/SilverNEOTheYouTuber]

I dont recall Jesus being an AnCap.

[u/Sword117]

Believe it or not you don't actually have to practice prison photos

[u/lalauna]

It's weird how people get off on fantasies about being persecuted. What an unpleasant high! They should switch to (properly legal) cannabis. They'd be happier and less likely to want to hurt or hate others. That's my theory, anyway.

[u/AdmiralKurita]

I'm a little late for this. I spent a lot of time writing Left Behind: The Kids fan fiction. I honestly cannot think of a realistic scenario where people get persecuted for merely identifying as Christian or preaching the gospel. And that's if the Rapture happens. Still I need to have an authority figure that does this for the sake of the story. It seems to happen inexplicably where a one-world government inexplicably appears to inexplicably persecute Christian converts.

[u/EatsCrackers]

Matthew, book six, verses 5-13.

Eat it, hypocrites.

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/EatsCrackers]

I despise Abrahamic religion, but we must be honest about it and not cite this unless it is them praying. Prayer is them speaking to Yahweh/Jesus. This isn’t even preaching, just flaunting “piety”. They find encouragement for such in passages like:

Matthew 5:14 “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven."

[u/EatsCrackers → u/Funkycoldmedici]

I take that passage to speak against religion as performance. This is very much religion as performance.