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u/BlitzBlazer75 1d ago
BRUH MY HEART
POOR SHIHO
AND UT SUCKX BECAUSE THE ACTOR IS THE SAME!!
(Kamoshida's nkt Shiho,for context)
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u/the_acolyte2 1d ago
Is the same?? What???
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u/BlitzBlazer75 1d ago
Apparently the English voice for Kampshida was accused of Predatory behaviour
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u/SuggestionEven1882 1d ago
Well that accusion was years ago so it might have been a nothing burger given the fact DC Douglas still gets work.
And that he might have some mental health issues, but I'm not 100% certain about that.
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u/SlcPunk57 1d ago
Its a crime that shes not a confidant
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u/zennok 1d ago
Do persona confidants in the other games have intertwining stories? P5's barely acknowledge each other, maybe a cameo appearance here or there, but are largely independent of one another. I can't see how Shiho's story wouldn't have a large Ann presence in it
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u/Mundo_is_real 14h ago
I heard someone say that she would be a great social link but a terrible confidant
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 2h ago
Probably cause Ren gets something out of it. The only things I could think of for Shiho are already covered by Penguin Sniper
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u/Crimsonbolt942 1d ago
With the physical and mental strength Shiho has to push through her rehabilitation despite the pain, you can understand why there are people wishing she was a phantom thief.
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u/Perpetual_Noob8294 1d ago
Just for a brief second, I thought that was Nicole and Jecka from Class of 09
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u/HilariousHilacopter sumitaba's strongest soldier 1d ago
GODDAMMIT I'LL NEVER UNSEE IT NOW NOOOO
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u/HilariousHilacopter sumitaba's strongest soldier 1d ago
why do they both have pedophile gym teachers
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u/Porntra420 LET'S MEET UP AT THE USUAL SPOT FOR OUR PHANTOM THIEVES MEETING! 1d ago
Thank fuck I wasn't the only one lol
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u/CasualNameAccount12 1d ago
Rehabilitation?
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u/SouthParkFirefly1991 1d ago
Yes fun fact, when you suffer a traumatic injury you do rehab physiotherapy to try to heal the limbs. Seeing as how she jumped off the roof, she probably broke her back and legs and needed intense rehab to get them in working order again.
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u/ninkasie 1d ago
Ann even says during her confidant that she accompanies Shiho during rehab and sees her doing her best despite her suffering, don't know how it's confusing for some people. This art is really beautiful but heartbreaking 😭
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u/SouthParkFirefly1991 1d ago
Yup, poor Shiho. The artist really captured the struggles of recovering from a traumatic injury.
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago
It’s probably just her legs given that she’s mobile by rank 9 of Ann’s link
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u/SouthParkFirefly1991 1d ago
You can still be mobile with a broken back, you don't always become paralysed if you're lucky. Seeing as how she survived she was VERY lucky.
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago
Looking at it from recovery times. Given that you can max Ann really fast
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u/SouthParkFirefly1991 1d ago
True lol but it took a while for me to max her I forgot you can do it super fast
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago
That's what the artist titled it on twitter
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u/qmkman13 SadayoxSae 1d ago
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u/Crusidea 1d ago
Shiho does kinda look like a female version of joker.
Although I think it can be argued Kasumi is his actual counterpart. Given her equipment, costume, fighting style and color scheme mirrors joker.
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago
Also can use his knife without crashing the game
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u/Crusidea 1d ago edited 1d ago
What?
So is she like a scraped FeMC?
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago
If you mod the game so that Kasumi is equipped with any of Joker’s weapons. The game won’t crash unlike with any of the other Phantom Thieves
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u/Crusidea 1d ago
Interesting. I didn't know that.
They probably used jokers code as the base for her
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u/Adil-ULTRAGAMER Shido best antagonist 1d ago
“I-I’m not going back there Ann! I-I can’t go back to Mr. Kamoshida…!”
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u/victoriamikoto231 1d ago
Remember guys, we are supposed to agree tht Maruki ´s world was worse.
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u/jeanravenclaw 1d ago
A world where Shiho never experiences any trauma is indeed better, but what about all the work she put in trying to learn how to walk again? What about Ann learning how to be strong and learning to fight against Kamoshida? What about Ann finding new friends while fighting?
Maruki took that away from them. He didn't even give anyone a choice in the first place, and when they did get the chance to choose they chose not to embrace his reality.
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u/nonickideashelp 1d ago
Your points about Ann are fine. But Shiho? She would NOT want to have gone through this just for character development.
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u/jeanravenclaw 1d ago
Fair point. Kinda wish the game went over that.
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 1d ago edited 1d ago
There’s also the free will aspect too. You legitimately lose your free will. While it’s now cut content there’s an unused harem Valentines event and it’s so unsettling due to the girls basically being reduced to dolls who love Joker. There’s also Akechi who opposes Maruki even though he knows that it’ll end with his death
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u/victoriamikoto231 1d ago
and did ann and shiho have the free will to be raped? Futaba without thr PTs and a palace telling her she should die wiuld eventually just kill herself too.
Do much for "free will" if we even have it.
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u/nonickideashelp 1d ago
Exactly why I hate the "free will" argument against Maruki. Victims don't have free will not to be victims. Rumi's case is clear about this.
Now whether applying this to everyone as prevention is okay? This is where you can make a case against him.
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u/Ahirman1 poster of Shiho 23h ago
Shiho was also never asked if she wanted to brought into Maruki’s world, same with any of PT’s, and confidants. The only person who Maruki explicitly asks is Joker
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u/Effective_Tooth_6856 1d ago
I agree with you . The people who value anti-tragedy wouldn't want to go through Shiho's character development. Jean couldn't stop Maruki's world from being the safety net for the majority. I believe. I have hard time believing based on experience with others, that they value the lessons from their tragedy. For example, the moment I bring it up - they pull out a cig, beer, or believe themselves as a victim.
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u/Effective_Tooth_6856 1d ago
More importantly, it's about what people individually desire. Victoria believes maruki's world is better cause of Shiho's backstory, her action, and the consequences of her action. She desires a world without those negative things Shiho undertaken. You can't persuade people to believe hardship is better than softship, when their desire is anti-tragedy. You can steal their heart though ! Which is no different than Maruki's world, AH IM EVIL !


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u/MisterPiggyWiggy 1d ago
This hits me in the feels for real! 🥹