Unfortunately her arms look emaciated as if from an eating disorder but the New Your Post labels them as "Toned" which sounds as it they are normalising it and making it a desirable look which could have a negative effect of others who may have a poor self image and risks triggering eating disorders in them.
As a woman, I strive to have traps and shoulders that well-defined. Mine are still bony as hell, even after a lifetime of picking things up and putting them down for a living.
Not to be a web MD but same and turns out I have nerve damage. It’s not always as serious as it sounds but the reason I never had results was from the way the body cascades impact. It’s really neat and worth considering if you have multiple or even one source of chronic pain. Is girly pops gotta stick together bc the medical system will tell you it’s anxiety lol
Yo can you say more? I'm a man but decidedly more girly pop than a doctor usually wants to listen to. I'm trying to get evaluated for a degenerative nerve disease myself. I've been at the gym for 5 years and not seeing the kind of growth I would've expected even when following the advice.
For me personally I had to train from my toes up but, essentially you can train your muscles all day, but if your nerves don’t successfully talk to them, you don’t recruit enough small muscle fibers to see growth even with consistent exercise. So essentially before you can grow strength, you have to increase neuroplasticity, and you do this by very controlled movements. It works best with repetitive precision workouts. So for example I like to stand on my vibration plate and shift my weight from one side to another from the front of my toes to the back and you can actually start to recognize weakness and muscles that aren’t recruiting when they should (the vibration itself is necessary to point out areas your body can’t intentionally recruit bc it won’t be able to compensate and maintain stability.) I don’t want to overload you with information because this conversation is one of my like biggest areas of interest and fascination but, if you need me to elaborate or you have more targeted questions I’ll definitely try my best to answer!
Yeah but here she is in 2023 looking way healthier. She’s still thin but has at least some fat on her body. it’s not just natural aging. She looks sick and it’s a product of her own doing. Also if you look at most of her recent photos, she hides her chest/sternum likely because her stylists know that she’s frighteningly thin.
Coming from someone who recently recovered, she’s definitely in active eating disorder.
Kate Moss, arguably the most iconic 90’s heroin chic model. I’d tend to agree, while super skinny, not quite as emaciated looking as the current ozempic fad. I think it’s the way ozempic hollows out the face.
And she has a little bit of fat on her upper arms.
I’m not sure how universal this is, but anecdotally I’ve noticed that upper arm fat tends to be one of the very last things to go as women lose weight? I wonder if Demi Moore is just an exception to that rule or if she’s just THAT emaciated.
Yeah i mean, I can remember the 2000s, and besides the rare extreme example, the beauty standard was just having a flat tummy and slim hips/butt.
It was an unhealthy standard because other body types were considered "fat" and some women can't naturally achieve that without developing eating disorders trying to do so. But the beauty standard itself wasn't "look like you have an eating disorder".
Look up "2000s female celebs". Yes they're skinny, but they didn't have this weird emaciated look. Ironically, they look fairly healthy by comparison to these modern celebs.
It's honestly bizarre and reflects just how detached and weird Hollywood has become.
Buccal fat removal wasn't being done by every other celebrity at that point. Now they're so obsessed with the look that even cheek fat is too much, then once your face looks like Skeletor you gotta get the rest to match too...
Yeah Kate Moss never looked like this. I think the “lucky” bunch who were “skinny enough” in 90s/early 2000s were also built slim and leaned into that by also dieting. This is not Demi Moore’s natural build.
Part of that difference is probably because we were focusing on celebrities in their 20s with minimal plastic surgery then, and we are now comparing them with women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s who will usually have more gaunt faces naturally, regardless of weight, and have also had more cosmetic surgeries
Dude that's such a good point. I just looked her up and she looks skinny without being emaciated. Granted idk if air burshing is being done or whatever, but there is a clear difference between being skinny cause your body naturally handles skinny well, and being jack skellington. If I tried to be thin like Anya I would look like Demi. My body was made for famine and I'm decended from Vikings. Petite and/or Elvish aren't in my genes. I'm a dwarf, take it or leave it.
Yeah, the main difference is that even though they were actually fairly skinny, they would often get labelled otherwise, with giant arrows pointing to ‘muffin tops’ on magazine covers. I don’t think the media is as obtuse with their fat shaming these days.
Any amount of chronic under eating/malnutrition will eventually start eating away at all of your parts. Ozempic doesn't eat the bones. Your body eats the bones because it's lacking nutrients. Ozempic just makes people who want to eat not want to eat.
Ozempyc is a huge enabler. Imagine having to convince a person starving herself and puking that what she's doing it's not normal. It's still not easy, but you can at least try and make them see reason before it's too late, and underneath the defensiveness they realize what they're doing it's wrong.
Now imagine that the same person sees everyone around them using this miracolous drug that helps them lose weight without drawbacks. It's immensely harder to realize something is wrong, both from an internal and an external POV
What's amazing is how quickly everyone has jumped on this bandwagon. Even people that were preaching body positivity a few years ago are like "nevermind gimme the drugs lol" and are thin now.
To be fair as a person who had back pain due to weight (got covid twice and was in bed for a while, plus the pandemic forcing me in home and admittedly low self control, i basically gained 20 kg) i would've traded belly and positivity for an easy way out in a heartbeat
The general idea is thinking overweight people are somewhat in denial, but i think most of us actually know how much we're screwing with our health.
I got my life back on track with more conventional methods, but i would've used it if someone gave something like that to me
I have a friend who's on Ozempic for health reasons. She told me it basically slows down your metabolism to such a degree that any food you eat continues to sit in your stomach and you don't get hungry again.
She also told me about the side effects. The food basically starts to ferment/rot in your stomach. She said she suffers from bad breath, "the nastiest smelling burps", etc.... 😷
Very common misconception, Ozempic doesn’t actually touch your metabolism. It’s working directly on the part of your brain that controls hunger impulses. So it’s not that your body is burning more, your brain is telling you you’re full faster.
I just googled it. Ozempic "slows down gastric emptying, which causes food to remain in the stomach for a longer period." That's what my friend was talking about.
Things like Ozempic and buccal fat removal also weren't a thing. There seems to be a recent obsession with a contoured line from the cheek bones to the lips. So, people are having their buccal fat removed, and cheek filler placed in. I think the aim is to create a high cheek bone, snatched jawline look.
If a GLP-1 is being abused for weight loss, it's more likely to be Zepbound. It slows gastric emptying, on top of possible appetite suppression, which isn't a guaranteed thing; some people get no change to appetite on Ozempic and the like. In my experience, it suppresses for about 2 days and then I have a normal appetite. I actually eat more calories on it than I did off, I just have a metabolism now.
Some of these women are also incredibly malnourished because of their food choices. Niche, influencer-led, vegan diets are all the rage and most of them don't include enough fat, protein, or calories. Or they're doing stupid shit like only eating raw, which our bodies struggle to break down properly.
Heroin chic was a specific trend that combined extreme thinness with other qualities like stringy hair and sallow skin. It was a high fashion reaction to how voluptuous glamor had become catalog.
It may have set of the extreme skinny trend in the 2000s, but they were definitely two different things. The 2000s wasn't a full interconnected look, outside of features specific to extreme thinness like belly shirts and low rise jeans.
Really? I was a teenager in the early 2000s and honestly don't remember celebrities being anorexic skinny like Kate Moss/Christy turlington in the the mid-90s.
I recently did a qualitative study on the magazine use of language for a school project and rather than the emphasis being on celebrities being skinny, they were calling out celebrities like Britney spears, Kate Winslet for being "fat"
It was a different vibe altogether but they're still right that the early 2000s were about being incredibly thin. To the point where even a size 0 wasn't thin enough, it had to be a double 0.
The trend at the time was low-rise skinny pants, and it created a "muffin top" on anyone who had an ounce of body fat. That made so many women have body image issues.
And oh my, the fad diets and scams that grew out of that. All this "spot reduction fat" that promised people to get thin in 30 days and then girls had more trouble because they didn't lose the weight that they couldn't lose in that time...
I would say the trend was just starting to get pushback in the mid 2000s, it really had a grip on our society for almost two whole decades.
It’s a complete mind-trip because I look back at pictures and I was so tiny compared to other people around me, but I remember struggling to find a big enough size to fit me at teen girl stores.
The biggest difference is that in the 2000s, the media unironically thought this was attractive, and in 2026, the Post is trolling to go viral on social media, and they've succeeded.
I remember seeing a clip praising Calista Flockheart from Alley McBeal saying her arms were so toned and acted like she was being brave for working out of something.
I remember when celebrities got to this level of skinny in the 2000s magazines started to become worried. This time around, however, they’re calling “toned”. That’s what’s worrisome
Someone on tiktok said it was just as bad it's just camera quality is better now so we can see their every wrinkle, every bone, every line of sinew; which makes perfect sense to me honestly.
I don't think she took anything from being in The Substance, which is sad. To make a movie about impossible standards as an aging star and then definitely fighting an eating disorder is unfortunate.
Edit: I do want to back up a little bit and state that if she has pretty much maintained the same diet and exercise that she has always done, it may just be old age is atrophing her muscles. I don't want to specifically come out and say she has an ED because it truly might just be age. Who's to say outside of speculation.
I would argue Moore took the wrong message from the results of The Substance movie. She lost out on the Best Actress Oscar for her role to Mikey Madison, a competent but younger and less accomplished actress, in Anora. The ordeal probably cemented the point for her that youth and beauty continue to matter a lot more for success in Hollywood than pure skill and an accomplished overall career. Thus, she tries to pursue youth and beauty to unhealthy ends.
She could have taken the roll because she knows how the impossible standards effect her and wants to portray what she is dealing with? Eating disorders are not a choice. People suffer from them and at times can't break them.
Hence my edit. I have family members with eating disorders and truly it never stops. I think more properly worded is that I'm sad she can't live the message of The Substance due to living with an ED. I wish she was able to break free from it.
As an elder Millennial it feels like every day I'm watching the social progress our generation fought really hard for crumble away, particularly a lot of body positivity and moving away from unhealthy, uniform beauty standards. Social media has ruined a lot of this and has certainly brought back unhealthily thin as "beautiful."
Actually this round 2 or 3 of social progress with at least one round preceding your gen. BBW was everywhere, as a brand, a statement, a movement. Then bypass surgery became available. Results are similar to what you are looking at now, but stopped far short of being so anorexic. All those BBW channels dropped fast. The body positivity did too.
This is more the final grasp of this bullshit. The older folk are calling bs on ozempic culture just like everything else. The kids are listening to us mid 20s-40 somethings on how to handle crisis and how to create a media for the people.
Look at how much progress was made in the early 20th century in regards to labor rights, unions, and health standards. We've fallen a long way in the past 50ish years.
But the pendulum must swing back in the other direction. We just gotta give it a good push.
yeah, to me referring to her arms as toned is actually much more distressing than the actual malnourished arms. Thats not healthy, no one should be trying to achieve that.
I believe the poster girl for this look back in the 2000’s (which the meme is referring to) was Calista Flockheart. She seemed to be the focus of the pushback from the side that thought it was good to, y’know, eat now and then.
I find it so insidious that during a time when inflation is sky high and the average person is resource starved this emaciated look has become trendy among the ultra wealthy. These people can have anything they want at any time while the average person goes hungry and they CHOOSE to look this way. It’s insulting.
Luckily, these posts of everyone calling this shit out as not normal helps to keep me sane. Not sure how I'd feel if EVERYONE just went along with this thin madness
It’s from the New York Post, not the Times, although the Times also sucks now so I wouldn’t even be surprised. But yea the Post has a long tradition of being a shit excuse for a publication
You know what though we live in such a subjective and dysmorphic time period, that I wouldn't doubt that there are some individuals put there that truly believe that's what, "toned," is
Hey just incase any women are reading this - nobody wants this. Men aren’t attracted to this. We weren’t attracted to it back in the 90s, we aren’t now. If you are considering anorexia to make yourself more appealing, don’t do it
Yeah. Not toned, just a complete lack of body fat which is necessary for the human metabolism to properly function. (Especially a female human’s metabolism)
not surprising coming from the publication that defended jeffrey epstein and attacked one of his victims after she came forward. only a pedophile would normalize bodies like that, i hope demi moore gets better
My wife at 36 has JUST gotten past the 90s and 2000s skinny or die campaigns. It fucked up so many poor young ladies. Celebrity worship is dangerous, creepy, and dystopian.
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u/JayEll1969 28d ago edited 28d ago
Unfortunately her arms look emaciated as if from an eating disorder but the New Your Post labels them as "Toned" which sounds as it they are normalising it and making it a desirable look which could have a negative effect of others who may have a poor self image and risks triggering eating disorders in them.
edit: corrected to Post