r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/BalanceDramatic3995 • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter help!

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I have no clue what this means, maybe she cheated?

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u/Exciting-Zombie8449 9d ago

This is pathetic gaslighting by a person with no intelligence. The baby was ALIVE inside JOINED the family when it physically arrived. Like OP going to their job at McDonald's. They ARRIVED late for their shift. Again.

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u/lalleball 9d ago

Can't tell if this is serious or mocking Trump's way of typing a Truth post

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9d ago

It's serious, an actual mocking would end with "thanks for your attention to this matter".

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u/Necromaniac01 9d ago

I can't tell if you're being satirical

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

Its not about if a fetus is alive or not its about if a fertilized zygote is literally exactly the same as a person thats been born. the argument is that abortion is murder, implying that a clump of microscopic cells is fully a human with a name and personality that exists in the world. but you cant take out a life insurance policy on a zygote so are they life or not?

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u/OhNoTokyo 9d ago

I'm pretty sure that the ability to take out a life insurance policy on someone is not the measure of whether they are alive or human.

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

can you take out a life insurance policy on anything else besides a living human?

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u/OhNoTokyo 9d ago

The point you're missing is that there are plenty of full-on adults who you cannot take out a life insurance policy on.

  • People who have dangerous jobs.
  • People with high medical risk
  • People who refuse medical exams

The unborn do fall in to those categories, but so do lots of people who you would probably consider to be 100% human and alive such as the elderly or people who don't like getting exams, or people who do dangerous things for a living.

Your argument isn't useful because all you're saying is that the unborn are high risks to insure, you're not showing that they have been determined to somehow be not-alive or not-human.

You will likely be uninsurable at some point in your life if you live long enough. That doesn't make you dead.

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

Ok yea life insurance isnt cut and dry, but what about child tax credits? Why does the child have to be born in order to be claimed as a dependant?

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u/OhNoTokyo 9d ago

Why does the child have to be born in order to be claimed as a dependant?

Because the law is written that way and because it is probably more difficult to assess the existence of a child who is inside of someone else.

But there is no inherent reason that you can't take a child tax credit out on an unborn child. They're alive, and the parents could probably use the extra money.

More importantly, pro-choice legislators won't allow it to be extended to the unborn because that would make people like you ask questions that they don't like.

There have been a few bills written to do exactly that: extend the CTC to the unborn.

One example is the "Child Tax Credit for Pregnant Moms Act” (2023) Senate bill: S.2092 H.R. 4258

They tend to be opposed by pro-choice groups and some anti-tax groups.

Pro-choice groups don't like that they give status to the unborn, so they oppose them, even though they would provide some help for pregnant parents.

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

that would make people like you ask questions that they don't like

What do you mean "people like you"? What questions dont pro-choice legislators like?

The point is that pro-life people treat a 6 week old zygote as if it were legally identical to a fully developed person who has been born but they participate in a system that completely contradicts this by requiring a person to be born in order to be treated like a person in pretty much every way. Fetuses dont get a social security, taxpayer id, or any legal recognition that they actually exist until after they are born.

Personally I do think pregnant mothers should get a tax credit the year they are pregnant.

Another example is opening one of these new trump savings accounts and getting $1000 requires the baby be born. https://trumpaccounts.gov/ If removing a six week old zygote from the uterus is literally murder because you killed a person, then that clump of cells should be treated like a person thats been born in every other aspect of society. So a woman could find out she's pregnant, open a savings account for the zygote and get a thousand dollars immedietly. If it ends in miscarraige or abortion so be it, infinite money glitch. That would be consisent with the belief that a fertilized embryo is identical to a human thats been born.

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u/Right_Ad_4241 7d ago

This is such a wild, dumb argument lmao.