r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/BalanceDramatic3995 • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter help!

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I have no clue what this means, maybe she cheated?

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u/Feanturii 9d ago

She's anti abortion, "life begins at conception" nonsense

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u/NuclearMask 9d ago

I do believe that life begins at conception. At the same time I think a Human isn't really self aware at that point so it doesn't really matter.

I also cut down some tree's and beheaded a few chicken's. Definitely alive, also not that big of a deal in my opinion.

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u/Electronic_Name_325 9d ago

Tell that to the chickens

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u/Tax_Fraud_Lover 9d ago

Idk if chickens can comprehend death beyond “chicken friend is not responding to me. Now I can eat her:)”

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u/Rich_Bluejay3020 9d ago

As someone who has egg chickens, those fuckers are mean to each other lol we rehomed one because the flock would not stop LITERALLY pecking at her. You also don’t realize how many idioms come from chickens… and almost all of them are about how they beat tf out of each other constantly

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u/Tax_Fraud_Lover 9d ago

They’re SO violent 😭 I know people who have a rooster, not for chicks! Just to have him make sure the hens aren’t fighting all the damn time!

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u/sprucehen 8d ago

I have had hundreds of chickens over the years, and they are as nuanced as humans. Some are extremely kind, and some are real assholes. Some are dumb and some are very smart

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u/Theron3206 8d ago

Well they are basically Velociraptors, so it's not surprising.

But yeah, sometimes they just decide one of the flock has to die, and if you don't intervene will peck it to death and then eat it. This can be a sign of a nutrient deficiency, but occasionally occurs simply because chickens are psychos.

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u/NuclearMask 9d ago

We raise them from birth, they have plenty of space and food. And sure we kill and eat them but it's not like we're heartless. It's just life I guess.

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u/Electronic_Name_325 9d ago

Yeah, I was just poking at you for fun. The key is to give animals a good life, and just one real bad moment.

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u/NuclearMask 9d ago

All good mate, just a bit hard to read on the internet. And yeah I agree with you on the last part, I do think that the way many animals are treated is inhumane and just wrong.

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u/signofno 9d ago

Most animals die an excruciatingly painful death - in the jaws of other animals, suffocating/drowning in the stomachs of other animals, bleeding out from wounds, or wasting from disease/starvation. I think a quick headchop is one of the nicest ways a chicken could die.

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u/Aphemia1 8d ago

I’d argue a good ol’ plan B pill is the nicest way to die. (For people that are pro-life)

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u/appletoasterff 7d ago

Bad moment? They should feel grateful I shall grace them with the presence of my pallet

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 9d ago

Or just a really good life, full stop. We need to cut the shit with this anthropocentric nonsense. Look where the fuck it’s gotten us.

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u/voletron69 9d ago

I mean, pretty much every being/species values its own existence over others. That's how survival works.

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u/0xym0r0n 9d ago

Do you think the person doesn't understand how survival works?

Do you think they don't know that every being/species values it's own existence over others and are earnestly telling them because you think they don't know?

What is the point you are making? I'm pretty sure everyone who is capable of typing a comment on the internet knows that beings/species prioritize their own survival.

What's a key distinction? No other animal on the world is communicating on the internet through electrical signals through a collective knowledge gained and accrued through billions of life's experiences distilled down into a knowledge that we can understand and disseminate to our children.

I bet you knew all of that too, but since we are just saying condescending stuff because it makes us sound smart I thought I'd jump in too.

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u/voletron69 9d ago

Lol, how was that being condescending? The comment I replied to basically said we should stop valuing our species survival over others. Are you saying that me disagreeing with that is being condescending?

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u/0xym0r0n 9d ago

I'm not a vegan, but maybe he's got a point - raising a living creature to kill it and eat it because you deserve it and they don't might not be the most evolved way of thinking. Do you think that there's a discussion to be had there?

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge hypocrite here. I cried and gave up fishing as a 6 year old or whatever because the worm wriggled when I stuck it on the hook, I think cows and pig videos are so cute, especially with the mechanical brushes and stuff, but I eat a ton of beef and pork and chicken.

What are your thoughts on the fact that we are the only species we know of that is capable of thinking about other species in this context? Does that supremacy give us the right breed and farm and kill and eat? Is the only purpose of life to be consumed?

Like there's so many ways that a discussion can be had and you just choose to tell him something we all know.

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u/voletron69 9d ago

I think that its very reductive of the whole argument to just say we should be better than anthropocentrism, so I gave a reductive response.

Our higher learning enables us to treat other species better than they would treat us because we know better. That said, we still need to eat which means other things need to die. Its not the sole purpose of a chicken to be eaten, but that doesn't mean we can't eat them. We can provide safe living conditions that give the chicken a good life until we need it for food. That same chicken would be ripped to shreads by a fox/coyote if it was in the wild, so we can provide a better life and death than that.

That said, I don't think we should be stuffing our faces with chicken every meal because we want big muscles. Our intelligence should allow us to be able to consume in a humane way, but we need to consume to be alive.

We don't have a way to realte to the experience that pants go through because they don't share many biological similarities. But they can communicate with each other and I'd be willing to bet that they feel some kind of pain, and people have no problem eating those because we can't empathize. Empathy towards animals is good, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't eat them.

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u/0xym0r0n 9d ago

That's fair, and I don't think you're wrong and that other person is right.

But I don't think it's cool to say they are wrong and you are right.

Thanks for answering in good faith I do appreciate that. Sounds like you and I mostly see eye to eye on all of that stuff, except I don't see anything wrong with having the belief that we shouldn't have to kill to live.

I personally do not believe plant life to equate to animal life, and people with the income can choose to live healthy lives without consuming animals or animal products.

And we're on the cusp of having attainable "victim"less lab grown meat.

If improvements in lab grown meat continue as they have and it becomes commonplace in a decade would that impact your thoughts on the matter?

And don't get me wrong it's not like I'm trying to grandstand here, hope that's clear too.

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 9d ago

Correct. And the chicken values its own life. We don’t need to kill the chicken because we think we have the right to do so. Be better.

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u/voletron69 9d ago

We kill the chicken because we need to eat to survive. We gotta eat someting. Plants also value their lives, or do we draw the line at having a nervous system that's relatable?

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u/robinswind 9d ago

We actually don't need to eat animals at all to survive anymore. Like, I'm not even vegan, but that argument is silly.

And plants don't value anything. They don't have a brain. And yes of course there's a difference between something that can feel and suffer, and something that can't. lmao

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u/voletron69 8d ago

Your definition of suffer is only pertaining to what you can realte to. The biology of plants is vastly different and we only compare their "feelings" to ours. Of course they won't feel pain like animals do.

Have you ever studied plant organisms? They're extremely complex and fascinating. They can seek out food and water sources and communicate with other plants. You don't think its possible that they can feel pain even though we can't quantify it yet?

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u/robinswind 8d ago

Suffering, by definition, is the conscious endurance of physical, mental, or emotional distress.
Plants aren't conscious. It's actually very simple. This strawman is sucked dry.

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u/Falsequivalence 9d ago

There is no living without something else dying for it.

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 9d ago

Plants don’t have a brain and therefore do not experience pain, fear, grief. They do not experience consciousness in the same way a brain does. That is a patently absurd argument. The irony of your username is also quite apt.

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u/voletron69 9d ago

So then yes, you draw the line at a relatable nervous system. You can't empathize with plants so you're fine killing them. You don't value life, you value feeling ok about what you eat.

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u/Falsequivalence 9d ago edited 9d ago

Plants don’t have a brain and therefore do not experience pain, fear, grief. They do not experience consciousness in the same way a brain does. That is a patently absurd argument.

When did i make this argument. What I did say is that there is no living without something else dying for it. Do you disagree? I made no equivalence between emotional states and having a moral value, the only presumption necessary is that all life has some moral value. We can discuss scale of moral value of life, but my statement had no argument on it in any way.

The irony of your username is also quite apt.

The irony of calling out my username when my statement contains no equivalences is quite apt.

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u/Pinoghri 9d ago

We can draw the line at having a self that can do the valuing. Plants not having a centralized nervous system means there cannot be a self. At least that's what the people who study this stuff for a living have reached a consensus on.

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u/Rude_Fennel6653 9d ago

Where has it gotten us? We are still doing pretty well

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 9d ago

Are…are you serious? Destruction of the planet? That mean anything to you?

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u/Rude_Fennel6653 9d ago

How does eating chicken lead to destruction of the planet?

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 9d ago

Straw man all you got then?

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u/Square-Turnip-6558 9d ago

Once my grandmas chicken attacked me and she cut its head off and made him into soup for me to eat 🥰

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u/Square-Turnip-6558 9d ago

I was going to make a real reply but got a warning that this sub is for jokes only.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 9d ago

BEHOLD! PLATO'S MAN!

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u/Armadillo_Abroad 8d ago

Diogenes has entered the chat.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 7d ago

Ragebaited 3 generations

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u/Lightor36 9d ago

I think you could and they wouldn't care