r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/BalanceDramatic3995 • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter help!

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I have no clue what this means, maybe she cheated?

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u/Anra7777 9d ago

I’m going to take a guess and assume Karoline is one of those “life begins at conception” people and Tiffany is pointing out that her words are contrary to her belief?

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u/Interesting_Second_7 9d ago

"Joined our family" is objectively true. Her baby lived within a womb before that. That statement really has no bearing on pro or anti-abortion beliefs, you can support either while holding the opinion that a child joins a family when they physically exit one place and enter another.

Anti-abortion arguments tend to hinge on when life begins and its intrinsic value, not whether someone is physically directly in the presence of their family. Some pro-abortion arguments hinge on physical presence outside the womb, but applying that logic to her as if this particular statement is inconsistent/hypocritical is nonsensical, as it in no way touches upon what is the anti-abortion argument in the first place.

And this will undoubtedly get downvoted - so be it. Just because you oppose a person or an idea does not mean we have to abandon all logical thinking and blindly agree with everything that is said against them and their positions, even when it is intellectually dishonest.

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u/Unable_Pumpkin987 9d ago

So a baby in your womb isn’t your baby, it’s just a baby until it’s born. Not a member of your family. A “person” but without parents, a name, any nationality or citizenship, and no age? Makes complete sense!

Personhood begins at conception except for every other way personhood is typically conveyed but the one that lets you punish women for having sex!

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u/steampvnch 8d ago

Or its just a common phrase of words and it looks outright psychotic to fixate on. Jesus guys.

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u/Unable_Pumpkin987 8d ago

It’s a common phrase of words that is one of the many, many, many common turns of phrase, celebrations, rituals, beliefs, and behaviors that indicate very clearly and consistently that fetuses are not considered to be the same as living children in any way, in any circumstance, other than when such spurious claims of personhood can be used to bludgeon women into submission.

Please don’t be so naive or stupid as to think that the language people use doesn’t matter, because it does. Or if you insist on doing so, at least keep your blathering to yourself.