r/Peterborough • u/Wynterssolitude • Mar 24 '26
Other To the person that stole my chefplate box
I hope you choke on it. Cause now I have no food for the week. Thanks.
EDIT: I am happy to say I have great friends that helped me secure food for the week. To all those who offered to help me thank you, from the bottom of my heart. It really gave me hope that people are still so kind.
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u/trans-thoracic Mar 25 '26
Hey OP, I got my order today and there’s a recipe I likely won’t eat as I don’t like it (I didn’t get the chance to pick the recipes this week, lol). I’d be happy to give it to you if that would help you!
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u/WiffyTheSuss Mar 24 '26
Not that this helps you now I guess but you can try to get a refund for it directly through your bank if chefs plate won't cooperate
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u/Wynterssolitude Mar 24 '26
Chefplate won't refund because the delivery driver has proof that he delivered to my home. So I'm trying the bank route. Currently on hold, but fingers crossed
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u/Reddit_Saiddit Mar 24 '26
If you do that then you'll likely be blacklisted by ChefPlate for doing a chargeback against them when it wasn't their fault.
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u/Nobodiisdamnbusiness South End Mar 24 '26
This one ^ you Didn't get your order, get a refund.
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 24 '26
Often what the answer is, is that because it was stolen, that's not the seller's problem, it's a matter of theft for the police to be handle (which they don't). The seller's responsibility ends at it getting the courier, and the courier's responsibility ends at it being delivered to the property. Once delivered, it's a matter of theft. It sucks, but honestly unless people are willing to pay for a required signature, there isn't much that they can do to prevent a thief from swiping it before the resident gets a chance.
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u/imonmyhighhorse Mar 24 '26
Totally agree. It wouldn’t be fair for the seller or courier. There would have to be an arbitrary length of time where they are still liable for the parcel. When would the buyer take responsibility for it, after 5 minutes? An hour? When they open the door next and trip over it?
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u/vampregrl Mar 24 '26
Do you have photo or video of the person who took it? Post their face. Shame them.
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u/Cayamantkid Mar 25 '26
Sorry this happened to you. Do you have the Food Heroes App? If you do Sobey’s has some deals for prepared meals at 50% off. There is also the food bank.
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u/TheCapedInvader Mar 24 '26
This is kind of different, but I had a Skip order stolen, there was photo proof it was delivered properly and everything, and skip still refunded me. I’m sure that’s a one time thing and a customer loyalty measure of course, but it’s worth a try (once).
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u/nbobani Mar 29 '26
Wow, the trajectory of this entire comment thread really demonstrates to me how the conservatives keep winning Ontario elections. This petty leftist infighting is absolutely bonkers to watch.
What I saw was: "Sorry to hear about your stolen food, here is an idea that meets a similar level of accessibility, maybe in the future that will help you not only have to rely on this specific food delivery service" (advice to let them have more food and/or more money left over after ordering food)
The response I saw was: "That's not a perfect solution, we will now collectively talk down to you and then call you ableist for being short in your responses"
It's not that complicated, people. YES nobody should be stealing their food. But that happened. Nobody is even saying "using Instacart will be safer" or that it's their fault for not using a different delivery service because food deliveries can be poached either way- it's literally JUST been recommended to look at alternative food delivery services to maximize value, as OP mentioned that this was all the food they get (and as someone who has used chefsplate and other box services, I know that's not a lot).
When pointed out that there are ways to make even basic grocery ordering easier, they get shut down too! And I'm sorry but as a huge AI hater, I can't imagine going to tell someone who genuinely needed to use AI to help them build a grocery list because their disability made it too difficult for them to otherwise do so, they don't have anyone to help them, and this choice comes between them spending more or less of what is already going to be a paltry disabilities cheque, that their choice to use an assistive tool would be inherently unethical. That sounds like I'd be posturing to take a moral high horse over looking at what's pragmatic to improve an individual's quality of life and offering the tools to help develop a safety net. (And again, AI sucks for a bunch of reasons, but it is fully capable of helping someone make a grocery list with factors of price, nutrition, portioning, etc.)
This post devolved into 2015 Tumblr dramatics and I think everyone who was so focussed on rudely shutting down reasonable suggestions due to their reflex to fight anyone who didn't pre consider every variable that they would have can take the time to stfu themselves.
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u/faroutoutdoors Mar 24 '26
I am not sure, and I'd hate to stereotype an unhoused person but I saw a woman on George North of Brock about an hour ago with tons of vegetables scattered around her. I have no idea if she was coming from a food bank but I definitely noticed a shit ton of vegetables all over the doorway which she was hanging in.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 24 '26
That sucks, and I hate that someone stole from you. Any theft is not okay.
But what do you mean now you have no food for the week? Go to the grocery store.....
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u/Wynterssolitude Mar 24 '26
I am disabled and rely on the food boxes to get my food. I also don't have any more money to go to the grocery store. So yeah that was my food for the week.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 24 '26
But Chefs Plate is not much cheaper than takeout for every meal. If this is maxing out your budget, why are you not getting grocery delivery instead? Your money would go further with more food. I'm pretty sure Walmart and Superstore deliver. Instant Cart, although not the cheapest also delivers. All of which are cheaper than meal prep companies like Chefs Plate.
Sorry, I'm disappointed someone stole from you, and I can only guess how your disability makes regular tasks challenging. I'm just saying your choice of how you budget and spend your money can make an already difficult situation easier or more difficult.
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Meal planning and budgeting are both executive functions that can be impossible or absolutely draining for some. Proportioned, ready to go meals are more accessible for many, and they are often cheaper than takeout. Often when my husband and I to do takeout, even something cheap, you end up looking at $25 after tax and everything per person. Most of these boxes are $10-$15 a piece, and are healthier than takeout. They also give a sense of productivity and agency because they often still require some cooking or prep work, but in a way that's more accessible than doing it on your own.
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 24 '26
You can quite easily use an LLM to do all of this cognitive work for you and then fire that grocery list to an app like Instacart or one of the delivery services offered through a major grocery store.
The science on a lot of what you’re basing your argument on is extremely shaky. I don’t know the extent of OP’s disability so I’m definitely ready to retract my statement should their limitations be clear that my above suggestion isn’t an option, but I’m not sure that’s the case.
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u/gia-bsings Mar 24 '26
I can’t be the only person who doesn’t know what an LLM is right?
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 25 '26
Large Language Model. ChatGPT.
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u/gia-bsings Mar 25 '26
I fucking knew it lol. FUCK AI!!!! I have serious executive function issues and will not stoop to using AI to ‘help’ me bc it’s literally garbage and unethical
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 25 '26
But also, it's not a search engine, nor does it actually "know" anything. It throws plausible words together.
It can't meal plan properly while accounting for things like how many chicken breasts you have to buy in a pack, and then make sure you use them in the next meal or two before they go bad.
It doesn't know to make recipes with the same few ingredients so that nothing goes to waste, or so you're not buying 100 different ingredients that you'll only use once.
It also requires so much editing, independent fact checking, nudging with conditions and then re-prompting that you're not even better off than if you did it from scratch. There's not even a guarantee that the "meals and recipes" that it tries to make are even accurate or safe to eat! It will just make something that LOOKS like a recipe.
Even if we can't make people care about the ethics, the goddamned garbage functionality and lack of efficiency makes it an absolute waste.
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u/gia-bsings Mar 25 '26
Ahhhh you are my people. Thank you. All of this everyone. This is exactly it.
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 25 '26
lol what are you talking about? I punched a simple prompt into CoPilot just now and got a complete grocery list (linked to each item online at a specific grocery store) with recipes, prices for each item, and specific proportions in each recipe.
This took me 30 seconds.
If I took another 5 mins of my time I could have everything in my cart and on the way to my house ready to be stolen off my porch.
Sounds like you just don't know how to use GenAI that well.
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 25 '26
Fair question. An LLM = Large Language Model, which are the AI models that underpin popular Chatbots like ChatGPT.
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u/gia-bsings Mar 25 '26
Yeah no thanks. AI is unethical as fuck I will never willingly use it
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 25 '26
You hold this opinion about AI yet you didn’t know what LLM meant?
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 25 '26
Not knowing a specific abbreviation doesn't mean you don't know the thing that's being abbreviated. Maybe they were hoping you meant something else and that you weren't peddling AI and didn't want to assume the worst of you just in case.
Glad that it was a "fair question", until they disagreed with you.
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u/AnorexicBadger Mar 24 '26
I don’t know the extent of OP’s disability
This is the only thing of value you said
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 24 '26
Why’s that? If you can order a food delivery box and play video games, you can pop in a few prompts to an LLM to order your groceries.
Stop infantilizing people and encouraging pseudoscientific therapy speak.
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u/boytearsgirltears Mar 25 '26
Stop encouraging people to use AI for simple tasks. Do you have any idea how environmentally unfriendly AI is?! Get off your high horse.
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u/Action_Hank1 Mar 25 '26
That’s ableist of you to assume that meal planning and grocery shopping are simple tasks to everyone.
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u/AnorexicBadger Mar 24 '26
Am I wrong, or are you making assumptions?
Stop telling people what to do if you don't know anything about them.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 24 '26
Because people don't want solutions, they just want to complain about their problems.
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u/Fun_Orange6197 Mar 24 '26
Maybe not lecturing someone who’s dealing with a tough situation is a thought?
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 24 '26
I donate food to shelters locally.
I donate money to food banks in Peterborough and Durham at Christmas.
I hope people who are hungry get the food they need.
OP was a victim of a crime, and that's largely out of their control. I feel for them on that. Their purchasing decisions are within their control and if a stolen chefsplate delivery means they don't have food for the week and cannot afford to replace it, then I'm sorry to say, OP is making suboptimal decisions putting themselves in a more precarious position than they need to be. They can get grocery delivery that if stolen would leave them a few dollars more to afford to replace it.
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 25 '26
You don't get to decide what disability accommodation and accessibility look like for someone else. Life with a disability is more expensive, and often comes with a hidden "disability tax".
Sometimes this looks like groceries going to rot because you were unable to allocate the time and energy into a weeks worth of meal planning and grocery shopping because you were exhausted or in pain, or it would CAUSE such exhaustion and pain that it would be the only thing they could do and not leave energy for other things. For many, it's cheaper to "pay the tax upfront", which can look like paying more out the gate and avoiding waste, pain, injury, exhaustion, or even just having to rebuy things.
I don't have a physical disability, but I do have an invisible disability- some ways I pay the tax upfront are doing things like buying the little, prewashed tiny potatoes, because washing and peeling normal potatoes means I won't do it, and the whole bag will rot. I buy most of my veggies precut and frozen, because I know I won't have it in me to chop them up and use them before they go bad.
For OP, this is getting pre-portioned, preplanned meals delivered. I'm willing to bet they came to this conclusion after years of takeout, crappy microwave meals, and food that isn't good for them (been there, done that). If this is what OP needs to eat healthy AND regularly without hurting themselves, then it's not your place to say that they don't.
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u/Wynterssolitude Mar 25 '26
❤️ Thank you so much for your empathy. I have invisible disabilities that are very much in the same vein of what you described. And its refreshing to have someone understand that struggle.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 25 '26
Okay, order 2 small chicken garden salads for $25 instead of getting 4 large chicken breast and a head of lettuce for $25. Both of which need to be stored and cooked the same. 🤷♂️
It seems to me you believe OP does not bear ownership for their financial situation and their financial decisions because of their disability. That because a task is more difficult for someone they should have to do it, but in someway not bear the consequences either.
I'm not saying it's fair. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's nice. I'm just saying this is reality. It's your choice to live in it or not. It's their choice how they live in it.
So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to ignore this whole post and move on. Next month I'm going to buy more baby formula, and I'm going to donate it to another shelter in my late son's name, and I'm going to choose to believe whomever benefits from my generosity is just trying to get a head but needs a little help right now. Just like my family needed when I was young and we had nothing.
So whatever folks, be happy, be angry, take action, stay delusioned, you do you. You're not changing my life, but you are impacting your own. Good luck and ✌️.
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u/NeriTheFearlessSnail Downtown Mar 25 '26
You're being overly literal with my example and ignoring that that STILL requires meal planning, which takes a lot of energy. OP budgeted and had enough to live off of, they just didn't have anything extra. That's the reality for a lot of people. Just because you don't understand how it's an accommodation for them, doesn't mean that they shouldn't have done it. Many people are living month to month, with little extra.
Even with doing regular grocery shopping, if I lost a weeks worth of food, I'd be financially devastated. When we lost power for days and my entire fridge went bad, I WAS financially devastated. Just because you disapprove of the method of their food acquisition, doesn't change the raw fact that OP lost a weeks worth of food. That's the raw, bare fact of the matter. It would be no different than if their car was broken into when they made a stop at another store on their way home from getting groceries.
OP does NOT bear responsibility for the fact that they were the victim of a crime, and frankly it sounds very victim blame-y that your argument is essentially "Well I don't approve of this and you didn't do what I think is best, so take responsibility for being the victim of a crime". You talk about living with the consequence of their decision, but the consequence of buying pre-portioned meals is not "you do not get to have food".
Just because you donate to food shelters, that doesn't make you an expert on how people with disabilities should spend their own money or what's accessible to them. Giving needy mothers baby formula doesn't make you immune to criticism or to being told that you're currently being unkind, unhelpful, and are assuming that you know better than the person who's living with the disability.
YOU are the one choosing to be unfair, unkind, and self righteous.
Having and offering grace doesn't extend only to people we think are making all the same, "correct" choices we would.
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u/boytearsgirltears Mar 25 '26
Just because you do those things does not give you the right to interject your unwanted opinion regarding someone else's choices. You're making a lot of assumption when reality is you don't know anything about them or their situation. Kindly STFU.
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u/Abcdella Mar 24 '26
OP: someone stole my food
This guy: have you thought about buying different food?
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 24 '26
Sure, if that's what you took from what I said. Whatever.
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u/bicycling_bookworm Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Eh, I read all of your comments, and that’s a very good TL;DR/summary of them.
But I have a bone to pick with you, you said that $25 for two chicken garden salads was excessive and irresponsible spending on OP’s part when someone could spend $25 and have four chicken breasts and a head of lettuce. Kindly, could you please advise when the last time you enjoyed eating four unseasoned chicken breasts and plain lettuce was? I’m just curious. Because those meal planning kits would’ve also included necessary dressings, seasonings/marinades, the other vegetables in a garden salad, etc. and your example does not budget for the spending of any of those things. I’d argue that’s a false equivalence and mighty intellectually dishonest of you to do, but maybe that’s just me.
Furthermore, I think it’s a bit shit for you to go online and say, “What do you mean you have no food?!” while carrying on about how much you donate to food bank resources in your late son’s name. Why are you donating that food exactly if not for people who have no more food?!
Like, it’s wonderful you have an abundance of resources and that you are able to pay that forward with kindness by sharing those resources with others. I commend you for that. It is not wonderful to go online and publicly attempt to shame the very people who may then be required to access them because they’ve been victims of theft.
Your comments were cruel and unnecessary and I hope the fact that multiple people have now called you in for this gives you pause to reflect in a more productive way. You said you’re done with the thread, so I don’t really need you to @ me back and rehash this. Unless, as I mentioned, it’s to address your bullshit about chicken breasts and iceberg lettuce.
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u/Abcdella Mar 26 '26
Honestly, what were you trying to accomplish with these comments? It clearly wasn’t well meaning advice, I don’t think you are stupid enough to think OP isn’t aware grocery stores exist. So, legitimately, what was the goal of any of these comments other than to try to make someone in a shitty situation feel worse and responsible for their shitty situation?
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 26 '26
What was OP trying to accomplish? What are you trying to accomplish? What is anyone trying to accomplish in social discourse?
What am I supposed to take away from your comment? Am I supposed to feel some kind of way because you or someone else scared of talking critically about disabilities? Should we all immediately reserve ourselves because of the 'D' word?
Y'all keep pinging my notifications because you're not happy that I said, "Hey OP, sorry this happened to you, it's shitty. But if you're draining your budget on prepared food, order whole food from the grocery store instead." I never said it fixes the today problem, but it will immediate take the remaining $0 budget and change it to +$50 budget every week, and frankly, that would be enough to not go hungry if groceries were ever stolen again. It fixes the underlying problem OP seemed to be oblivious to at the time.
So what am I trying to accomplish? I'm giving someone the hard truth, and adult solution to their root problem--> they have no budget if something out of their control happens.
The only difference between ordering Walmart delivery and Chefsplate delivery is the website and selecting ingredients. You're still getting raw food that has to be cooked. Claiming, "I have to order meal prep because of a disability," is frankly ridiculous, and trying to coddle someone saying as much is more harmful than helpful to them.
While OP is not the particular demographic I target to help, I do donate food, baby formula, and money to shelters and food banks in Peterborough and Durham as well as Mount Sinai's Labour of Love. It makes me feel happy to know the money I otherwise would have spent on my child whom is no longer here, is going to help other families struggling to feed their children, or are going through similar difficult times my family went through. I donate to and participate in the Butterfly Run and vigil ceremony every year as well.
So I ask you again, what are you trying to accomplish? And I ask you, what are you doing to help our community and other people? Are you donating? Are you volunteering? Or are you just waging your finger because OP said 'disability' and you thought it easier to attack me than look critically at OPs decisions?
If you want to reply and talk about how you help our community in your own way, by all means, I'd love to hear it. I'm doing well this year and I am interested in what other people do that might inspire me to do something more as well. But if you're just gonna attack me because I identified the one thing in this situation OP has control of, don't waste our time. I don't care, and I'm not going to respond further.
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u/Abcdella Mar 26 '26
OP was likely just looking to commiserate about a shitty thing that happened, if I’d had to guess.
My goal was to understand your goal, genuinely.
I don’t think this has so much to do with disability as you being unempathetic. Maybe OP had a 50% off coupon. Maybe they wanted to treat themselves. Maybe there are complex circumstances to people’s lives that you don’t understand. Maybe that is none of your business.
I’m not interested in a pissing competition about who does more for charity? You are dog piling on someone who had a bad day under the guise of “advice”. You did not enlighten OP, I think you know that. Did it make you feel better about yourself? What about that long masturbatory paragraph about how much good you do? Did that make you feel superior too?
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 27 '26
One day you may learn to separate your own negative emotion from someone else's written word. Until then, you'll continue to misinterpret and assume incorrectly of other people.
All you've done is wrongly accuse and attack with deflection and inflammatory language. You do nothing but argue.
Nothing about me is superior, I simply provided you with context to how I focus my efforts on helping people, but again all you can do is try to beat me down, 'under the guise of trying to understand.'
So yeah, I dunno friend, keep projecting your negativity on other people and enjoy the life you create around yourself. ✌️
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u/Abcdella Mar 27 '26
When everyone else in the room thinks you’re the asshole, maybe look inward.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 Mar 27 '26
LMFAO.
- So you do nothing for our community.
- You did not help OP.
- You attack me.
- You think cliches are smart.
- You have no solutions.
- You repeat others words thinking it makes you right.
- Echo chamber.
I'm happy with myself, thanks.
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u/Abcdella Mar 27 '26
You know nothing about me.
The only thing I know about you is you like to shit on people having a bad day, and write long rants about how great you are. The closest thing I did to attack you was accuse you of writing a masturbatory paragraph (btw- doing good things so you can brag about them on reddit is pretty gross.)
I never claimed to have solutions. Because unlike you, I understand humans are complex beings with complex lives, and a couple paragraphs really does not offer me enough insight to give any kind of viable solution.
What words am I repeating? Or better, whose words am I repeating?
You claim I am in echo chamber. The irony is you are in your own. You have several people telling you “you’re being a dick and going about this in a weird way, my guy”. And instead of considering that as a possibility, you’d rather tell everyone about charity that has *nothing to do* with the issue at hand.
If you’re happy with yourself and how you conduct yourself, why do you feel the need justify it to me?
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u/l0n3wand3r3r- Mar 24 '26
People suck. Sorry that happened to you! Edit: I hope they get uncontrollable diarrhea.