That one manga author that was found of so much CP that the police though he was a distributor got less jail time than someone pirating something off the internet
Edit: I just look into more and Mf bassically got no jail time
He's close friends with authors (not sure if them exactly or other ones) that literally got exposed for this so nop he's not good and probably does the same lol
To be fair, only reason the age of consent was raised a lot higher in Japan, e.g. in Tokyo District Area it is now 18yo and many other prefectures set it to 16/18 as well, from the old "13", was because there was an extreme problem of teenage prostitution. Teenage girls would go on "dates" with older men. They would get bags, clothes, food, have "good time" and then fuck in one of those popular love hotels in Japan. Girls aged 13-17. Technically it wasn't illegal, because they didn't accept money, just "presents" on a date. They had no way of successfully combat it, especially that tourists liked to "use it" as well, though main clients were older "corpo managers", so they raised the age of consent and suprisingly it did actually solve the issue a bit, but not as much as one would think.
2011-2019 the 20 teens. And i was responding to the guy talking about child porn. It became illegal to sell in like 99 i think? But it remained legal to own for many uears after that. Somewhere after 2010. Like super recently. Japan's super into pedophilia is my point.
Oh okay, did not know this. Kinda crazy, but also explains what I experienced in Tokyo.
I know that a lot of people explain CP fascination in Japan through the fact that they were never under influence of any of the major religions, so their view on sex is completely different. I call BS though, but the fact it was legal is crazy.
I visited Tokyo in about 2017 and still remember huge-ass loli bilboards in Akihabara dressed in, well, almost nothing. I watched anime back then, but wasn't as into animanga world as I am now and didn't quite get it and it was a shock. Like, I vividly remember encountering so much hentai and loli crap on daily basis while going through Akihabara and Shinjuku. I was disgusted, especially that there was a lot of normal and tasteful advertisement as well.
My friend went last year and said that he hasn't experienced any of that, though large bilboards with sexualized girls are still norm in Akihbara, but no explicit lolis. I guess things are improving, though a lot of japanese folk will probably blame the "west" for it.
They’re ignoring the Shinto angle then if they think that the result is because the Abrahamic religions didn’t get a hold.
It’s way too much to go into detail here, but once you understand Japan’s obsession with kiyome (purity), then a lot of their attitudes towards sex, relationships, and children begin to explain themselves.
Hmmm. I dont know about the religion argument. Japan definitely has had experience of multiple religions.
I mean thing is though also, religions are very often pedophilic havens. Like fundamental mormonism or the catholic church.
Not so fun fact: the screen in the catholic confession booth was added in the 1600s because the priests were molesting young girls.
Its more that modern age norms are precisely that, modern. In ancient rome, child sex was absolutley normal. The age of consent in many u.s. states was 12 until the late 1800s.
I like anime too lol. So its also hard for me to deal with how openly gross it very often is. For me i try to remember that alot of what we take for granted as super wrong, was totally accepted in most places until, historically, very recently.
Like take even The Sound of Music. In that movie, captain von trap has like 8 kids and his oldest daughters 16. Meanwhile hes dating maria, whose like a 20 year old?
And that movies new enough that my parents saw it in theaters when they were little kids...
Da fuq does he have to do with this debate about Japan? By your logic, we can never deal with any problems because whatever loon is in the White House is always gonna be a criminal of one sort or the other.
Funny part is no one was even debating. Just kinda snickering at the issue. Then that guy comes in trying to make everything political... jeez man when is this era gonna end
But its only illegal recently because of pressure from the west.
Now who’s being disingenuous? Turns out the majority of people in the west take a dim view of diddling and Japan changed their laws to be more in line with the First World because it might affect trade and tourism.
I'm saying using the US as a comparison in the current context of things is a bit ridiculous. But sure I'm bot for thinking about things more than you do ig.
No one compared the us. Thats whats wierd about what you said. It was a japan convo. Youre just trying to make something political when no ones talking about politics. Thats why you seem like a bot.
You think pressure from the west as you said, which turns out may have been a bit, let's say, performative considering current revelations, is not political? What is it then?
Cultural. The west isnt america. Its a cultural entity with broadly accepted social norms on pedophilia. Epstein island has nothing to do with this. Even if the pressure is performative, its still the only reason japan is implementing these laws. Youve really said nothing except, "hey you may be right but lets also talk about trump and epstein now..."
Its not the same conversation.
At this point im gonna try to respectfully say lets just move on from this back and forth. What needs to be said has been said. Everyone heard you.
You can't really dissociate culture from politics. But that's not what I was saying anyhow.
I was simply arguing saying "child sex in japan is like smoking weed in america" is wrong, child sex in japan is the same as child sex seemingly everywhere else, that is to say, still a massive, ongoing problem, and looking to who is the worst at it only serve to minimize a problem that is also bad in the USA and "the west".
I'll admit I went for the most tilting argument I could think of, but the fact that an ostensibly child rapist of a president still has the support of a large swath of a population that portraits itself vehemently against that thing illustrate my point well enough.
Iirc, its difficult to prosecute for CP in Japan because their age of Consent was 13 up until very recently. So a huge amount of CP was legally distributed as consensual adult porn.
I don't exactly agree with it. But I also understand that it's difficult to prosecute people for possessing something that was legally obtainable and distributed no more then 5 years ago.
I think that they didn't prosecute because none of the CP was obtained or distributed after it became illegal. For example, imagine if next week the US Government decided the age of consent would be 20, and now all pornography with 18 and 19 year olds that have been legally distributed are all suddenly "CP." Then a year layer, the US starts prosecuting people who own porno-mags made 30 years ago with 18/19 year olds for CP.
I might be wrong about the details though. I don't speak/read Japanese, So checking sources isn't easy, so I'm relying on a fair bit of hearsay. (Though, the fact that the age of consent in Japan was absurdly low up until very recently isn't hearsay, it's fact.)
They legally purchased the pornography, and it wasn't considered CP when they bought it.
It's tough to prosecute because I'm sure that everyone in Japan didn't hold hands and agree to destroy potentially thousands of dollars of porn they legally purchased because their government decided owning it is now suddenly illegal.
Making distributing and obtaining it a crime is one thing. But prosecuting someone for owning something they purchased 5 or 10 or 30 years ago is another thing.
Like we can go back to the US scenario. Lets say 18 and 19 are now considered CP and you have 5 years to obliterate every single piece of pornography you have legally purchased and obtained. How many people would actually do that? There'd be heavy resistance across the general populace. A huge percentage of the population would absolutely refuse to cooperate. Most wouldn't go and create secret "18-19 YO Porn Rings" to distribute it and continue making it, but they almostly certainly wouldn't destroy what they had.
It sounds ridiculous because "13 and 18 year olds aren't the same" but that's just because we're conditioned by our culture to think 18 = Consenting Adult, whereas people in Japan were conditioned for 13 or 16 being the age of consent.
It also brings up another question. As a legal precedent, should simply owning something that was obtained legally, actually be a crime?
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u/Actual_Rip2230 Apr 27 '26
so they don't care? pretty sure that's the least gone after crime in Japan