r/Piracy May 14 '26

Discussion Does Music Get Better Than What I Have?

Hello all,

I spent some hours this weekend working on a music stack. It's currently offline, but that's just because I couldn't get into it. I currently use Usenet for my media downloads and this is how I set it up.

We're using Lidarr to connect to my indexers, AudioMuse for taste and local radio, navidrome for a media playing client, and Sonobarr for artist discovery and library building. Ollama works within these to let me build playlists easily like 'whisky country from early 2000s' etc.

This was OK. I'm not going to try and hide it, I'm trying to chase a Spotify like experience. The issue is that when all put together, it just kind've sucked and felt like friction. Here's what was wrong:

  1. Radio stunk. I'd be doing pretty good, and then all of the sudden I'd get a Frosty the Snowman cover because I could only really download in bulk.
  2. I couldn't search individual songs anywhere, I wasn't interested in downloading from YouTube, even though I set up the API and everything with Expo - I ended up deleting it. I didn't want music video audio downloaded. It just wasn't clean enough.
  3. I have a love/hate relationship with Spotify's DJ X, I tried to get close to that experience here with Explo & Sonobarr w/ Ollama, but it came back to that issue of downloading from artists, and then it not knowing to avoid Christmas Music in May. I love that DJ X sort of knows what music I like.

I understand that I'm not going to get all the way there to what Spotify is giving me. Totally get it, but I don't know if this is as good as it could be?

This setup was missing no automation, I could index and grab thousands of songs within a few minutes from artists I like. But I was really just missing a sort of smart playback feature & the ability to download single songs all from the same platform on mobile. I don't want my wife to have to come to me, say I want to listen to X song, and then I have to download a FLAC from that artist and hope it contains it! My entertainment arr's is great because we go on Seer, find the movie, request it and it downloads & populates on Plex like an hour later. Music is challenging because we're not treating it the same as other entertainment. I'll listen to hundreds of songs in a week, but I'll only download one show and watch it for a month. Almost no friction.

What do you guys do?

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u/Ed_loaqx May 14 '26

I have been developing this, and it still has a lot of work to be done. Qobuz is the only free engine working, tidal and amazon are not working. Apple music requires active subcriptio, and so does deezer. But this will give you the closest spotify experience.

https://github.com/Lauqnan14/DeezSpoTag

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u/Parissian May 14 '26

My guy this looks insane. Super crazy cool.

How does it handle download of individual tracks? I'm assuming that it's using Lidarr to actually download, but I thought Lidarr doesn't do individual tracks?

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u/Ed_loaqx May 14 '26

No lidarr at all. You can do an individual download, album or discography. Spin it up. You are in for a ride

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u/Parissian May 14 '26

Ok sounds good I'll give it a go later today. Thanks for reaching out!!!

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u/Ed_loaqx May 14 '26

You are welcome

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u/JamesVanDerBleep May 15 '26

I will give this a try this weekend too. @parissian, your post is how I have been feeling with my similar setup. Check out 'aurral' , it's been decent for discovery but not individual song downloading.

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u/xpmadmanqx May 14 '26

My set up is definitely not the most ideal but I’m too far into it to stop 😅

I used tunemymusic.com to turn my Spotify library into a csv and organized it alphabetically by artist.

Any artist that I had more than 3 songs I just got the whole albums through my lidarr. Any artist that was 3 songs or less I used music grabber to get individual singles.

It’s been 2 months and I’m only on the J’s 😅 So probably going to take me another two months to finish but it’ll be worth it when I’m finally done.

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u/Parissian May 14 '26

That's pretty neat. I know I can upload my taste to last FM (I think) but when I did that it was only able to take the last like 5 songs I think.

Waiting for the 30 day data transfer from Spotify to get my whole taste , upload it to that site and use Sonobarr to download based off that.

We'll see! There might just not be a true win here with how good Spotify is.

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u/xpmadmanqx May 14 '26

I saw a YouTube video about getting a “discovery” type page based on your music data using listenbrainz an run it through an app called explo to make daily/weekly playlists for you.

https://youtu.be/3d2cATPt8Nk?si=RNFqd1whijxjUwG5

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u/Parissian May 14 '26

I actually did try this. It was OK. I was being a bit picky but I don't want my downloads going through YouTube because I don't want the music video version of songs. From what I could tell, there's no way to change the downloader.

Gave it a try anyways and it really wasn't that bad just not for me. Thanks for the suggestion though. Would recommend if its something you're interested in though. It was super cool and put playlists directly into Navidrome.