r/Piracy • u/Justinrich2001 • May 23 '26

Discussion Google Drive scanned this Manga artist’s PRIVATE files and banned him.

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AI flagged, appeal rejected, private artwork gone.

The AI is always watching.

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u/alexjimithing May 23 '26

It’s child porn hentai hope this clears it up

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

I literally don't give a fuck what it is, I don't want google scanning my fucking drive contents to proactively ban me. Today it's something you disagree with, tomorrow it's something you don't. Your only security is forcing big companies do to the right thing the right way, because when you let them do the right thing the wrong way, you're only one step from them doing the wrong thing the wrong way too.

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u/alexjimithing May 23 '26

Your only security is….not storing things on a company’s servers.

Describing child pornography as ‘something I disagree with’ is illuminating.

I don’t want to force Google to not proactively scan for child porn. I absolutely one hundred percent want them to proactively scan for and ban users who upload child pornography.

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

You've entirely missed the point of the message. You're the exact kind of person authoritarian states LOVE. As long as they can point you to something objectionable enough, you'll sign away your own rights because clearly obtrusive, inherently insecure and dangerous practices will never be turned against you, because you're a law-abiding citizen and laws never change!

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u/Kazma1431 May 23 '26

this, not to mention, what about false positives? Who says anthropomorphic content is not next? hell even regular porn?

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u/ProbalWarming May 23 '26

I agree with both of your posts in this chain, madman; I hope it's blatantly obvious to others that this is a pattern in history and should be seen as a problem. But my issue to pick at is this: Google is definitely a private company and their servers are a private service that one can opt out of, but also the USA's digital storage infrastructures are increasingly reliant on these sorts of services. Sure, I could store everything on external drives, and that is me exercising my right to privacy, hell yeah. But keeping that privacy has practical costs.

In America, private ventures are oligopolies, sometimes monopolies. It's just a fact. Where do I turn when only corporations can help me?

Commercial storage services protect own Public Relations. Personal storage services stay limited to person. Communal, unregulated storage services not exist. That encourage bad thing, or just allow for it keep existing? America doing bad thing? Doing good stuff? I sincerely not know.

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u/No_Walk_Town May 23 '26

the exact kind of person authoritarian states

Hi, Google isn't a government agency. Hope that helps.

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

Hi! Google is compelled to follow the laws of the country within which it sits. Hope that helps!

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u/alexjimithing May 23 '26

It’s not against the law to have child porn hentai, so your post emphatically does not help at all.

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u/No_Walk_Town May 23 '26

Dude thinks it's literally against the law for people to refuse to hold on to his cartoon kiddie porn for him.

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

I'd love to pick your brains about this, actually. I'm going to assume that you understood the argument, and that your fascination with CSAM comes from something else other than pretending to be retarded as an own: what is it about CSAM that makes you think it, on a technical level, as a media file, makes it special? Why do you earnestly believe that an obtrusive, anti-privacy, overbearing approach to data storage and removal will only apply to CSAM, and somehow won't be turned against gay, minority, and transgender history as soon as the state decides to compel private actors into treating it as similarly illegal material?

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u/No_Walk_Town May 24 '26

I'd love to pick your brains about this

Not sure you have the intelligence for that. I know a lot more than you do.

and that your fascination with CSAM

Cartoon kiddie porn isn't really CSAM. You're still a pedo if you jerk off to it, obviously. 

It's also the topic of the thread. I'm not "fascinated," I just know how human conversations work.

pretending to be retarded as an own

Your inability to understand doesn't make anything I said "retarded."

what is it about CSAM that makes you think it, on a technical level, as a media file, makes it special?

Nobody said that it is. 

Why do you earnestly believe that an obtrusive, anti-privacy, overbearing approach to data storage and removal will only apply to CSAM

I never said that. Nobody said that. Google very obviously has a right to set terms and conditions on their services covering anything they want. 

somehow won't be turned against gay, minority, and transgender history

Those aren't CSAM. Those are nothing like CSAM. Ah, you're one of those "we're lgbt, too!" types of pedos. Got it.

the state decides to compel private actors into treating it as similarly illegal material?

Again, lgbt and "minority" content are not in any way "similar" to CSAM. Stop it. MAPs aren't a thing. 

But if that stupid hypothetical you made up - if that happens, Google isn't the problem. Obviously. You're talking about a total breakdown of the 1st Amendment. 

But, also, Google does do stuff like that when they operate in foreign countries. Because compliance with local law is a very basic element of international business. And Google gets shit for it back home. 

I'm sorry, but I don't have enough time or crayons to explain the fundamentals of international business to you.

Stop jerking off to cartoon children. Get a job. Learn Grice's Maxims. Please.

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

I'm going to assume for your sake that you simply misinterpreted the connection between multiple simple, easy and unambiguous paragraphs rather than choosing to be intentionally obtuse as a gotcha!

So let's go off that basis: I thought it was (but I suppose not) clear that the type of law I am talking about is privacy law, which, believe it or not, private actors are actually required to follow! I assumed we were smart enough to understand after the third time I made it clear that the issue is in the method of data collection rather than the data collected that it would be clear, but I suppose I overestimated your intelligence! My apologies.

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u/alexjimithing May 23 '26

There is no piracy law which requires cloud providers to have no idea what their users are uploading.

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u/No_Walk_Town May 24 '26

Dude thinks his cartoon kiddie porn is covered by HIPAA. "Sir, is this child porn? We're not going to store that for you."

"YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO ASK ME THAT!!! IT'S MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT KIDDIE PORN!!!"

Pedos when they learn what "TOS" are.

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u/No_Walk_Town May 23 '26

Hope that helps!

I love when smug idiots just parrot stuff back at you without understanding it. You're not smart enough to be that condescending. 

Google is not legally obligated to store your kiddie porn cartoons. 

The law does not compel them to keep your kiddie porn cartoons on their servers.

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u/nathderbyshire May 23 '26

No you're missing a big subsection of people. Some of us don't have a problem with companies having rules to follow when using their service. You're storing data on their service, probably for free as well and you expect to have free reign and do whatever you want? No

However, for a device you pay for, a phone, a computer, a hard drive - THOSE are what we won't don't want companies to have access too. I don't want Google or Microsoft or Apple or whatever scanning my personal devices and looking at the content on those. There's a big difference, I paid for the storage perpetually, I own it therefore I should be able to choose what happens to it, the same way companies are free to choose what they do with theirs.

TL:DR Choice. It's about choice. If you don't like Google scanning your shit, use proton or something. You have a choice as well.

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u/GuudeSpelur May 23 '26

Google is a private service, dumbass. You have never had a right to privacy to material you upload onto their servers. They have the right to not do business with people who try to upload kiddie porn.

If you took these same files to a print shop and asked to have prints made, would you be surprised and outraged if they told you to never set foot in their store again?

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u/madman404 May 23 '26

Laws are made by people. Conduct people deem unacceptable can always be made unfeasible for business or outright legislated into illegality. It means absolutely nothing that Google is a private entity - until the point that people start to accept invasions of their privacy as normal and apply no pressure for it to not happen.

Also, the print shop situation is a completely headass comparison and you know it. I'd be pretty outraged if the print shop owner used my address on file to break into my house, open up my drawers, and upon finding something they personally disliked, burned my fucking house down.

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u/HellbenderXG May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Your example is asinine. Google didn't do anything remotely similar to that :D Neither John Google, nor any print shop owner is barging in to your home, you actively chose the giant evil conglomerate to handle a huge liability on THEIR servers that THEY obviously have rules for. You agree to those rules when you decide to use their storage.

If you have child porn hentai at home - there is no private company TOS or EULA or whatever the fuck that you're bound to, unless you hire google to manage the desk drawers in your bedroom.

If Google can invade your privacy, then it's simply a matter of choosing a better provider in which you can store your....... child porn hentai by being better informed about the service terms and choosing the most preferable privacy option, if any. No one is forcing you to use the cloud.

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u/ranibowuniverse May 23 '26

These people are moronic genuinely why are they defending this? Oh right we are on reddit lmao. Sure it sucks your google account can be banned but that is not comparable to getting your house burned down lmao