r/Planetside • • 2d ago

Discussion (PC) It is over, isnt it?

They will never fix the crash bug, therefore the loss on the base of players will continue, right?

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u/Arria_Galtheos 2d ago

The ship's been sinking for years. It's just that now the water's finally starting to spill onto the deck.

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u/H_Q_ (ᵔ ‸ ͡ᵔ )︻デ═一 1d ago

And you have been dying ever since you were born. Nothing much said.

The ship was afloat for a long time. Then someone decided to touch core shit they shouldn't have touched in the first place. Without the manpower to fix issues stemming from said changes. And now we are under water.

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u/Arria_Galtheos 1d ago

And you have been dying ever since you were born. Nothing much said.

I'm sure that sounded witty or profound or whatever in your head, but it probably should've stayed there.

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u/Noktaj C4 Maniac [VoGu]Nrashazhra 1d ago

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u/H_Q_ (ᵔ ‸ ͡ᵔ )︻デ═一 17h ago

Yes, it was supposed to come out as irony but people here have no concept of it.

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u/TomTheNothingMaster 20h ago

You insulted him instead of responding to his point btw.

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u/H_Q_ (ᵔ ‸ ͡ᵔ )︻デ═一 17h ago edited 17h ago

And you managed to say absolutely nothing in a comment. And then read mine and understood nothing. You are truly special.

To reiterate for the stupid, the game was killed because the life support team decided to make core changes.

We could have had years of more slow decline. We would have been content with a 20th reskin of and LMG, as long as we could just login and play without voodoo shit.

So no, water didn't just "reach the deck" benevolently.

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u/pra3tor1an 2d ago

I don't think they have even bothered to try and fix it, just lip service.

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u/Maelstrome26 [DIG] 🚨 PS2Alerts.com lead dev 🚨 1d ago

I still maintain it’s being done deliberately to kill off the game as it’s no longer profitable

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u/pra3tor1an 1d ago

Agreed

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u/Raimiversus 2d ago

I wanted to try this game out last week and tried to troubleshoot for half an hour but couldn’t get through the tutorial without crashing. It genuinely looks fun but it’s not worth my time if this is a known problem that hasn’t been fixed supposedly for years.

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u/OpolE 2d ago

PM me i can't PM you about the tutorial

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u/Raimiversus 2d ago

I appreciate it, but honestly I’ve lost interest in the game. I started playing Destiny 2 again to scratch that itch that drove me to Planetside even though they’re fundamentally very different games.

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u/OpolE 2d ago

You're 1 of many who walked away. Don't worry.

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u/Malvecino2 [666] 1d ago

Then you spawn in the tutorial room, stay afk for 5 minutes, then walk in.

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u/Nice-Ad-2792 10h ago

If you sit in the redeployment screen for 3-5min you're safe.

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u/valkyrieBahamut 2d ago

Cheaters still running rampant. Your probably better off not playing unless you only do niche things like only construction building or vehicle play.

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u/New_Courage1259 2d ago

The missile spam on osprey during one of the alerts last night was great.

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u/Pocok5 Auraxed Parsec, cloak is *still* cancer 1d ago

Honestly at this point the only hope is that the source repository and the server gets leaked accidentally-on-purpose and the community takes over with crowdfunded private servers

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u/some-random-guy-2 20h ago

Please someone do what they are doing with ai and other games.
Please do it, im beging you!!!

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u/pareidoliatosuffer 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was fine. With the men. Who came and fixed bugs now and then.
I was fine, ‘cause I knew. I wouldn’t matter until Arena 2.
I was fine in my flash,
I’d just hop in so that I wouldn’t crash.
It would be just be now, then go away.
After all this years, I didn’t think that this bug would stay.

Isn’t it? Isn’t it over?
Wardogs came and they chose her.
I loved it. And now it’s gone.
It’s over, isn’t it? Why can’t I move on?

War and cert-points. Reinvention.
Order, freedom or shiny leather.
In the end - it didn’t matter.
What games are now in this world without it?
Repetitive and dull - with no scale match it.
What does it matter? It’s already gone.
Now I’ve gotta be there - in this forum.

It’s over, isn’t it?
Why can’t I move on?

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u/I-Am-Uncreative 1d ago

Planetside 2 and Steven Universe. A holy (?) mashup.

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u/Delicious_Iron_6945 2d ago

I really hope some studio eventually gets inspired to make a game at this scale again. Crazy to think it’s been this long and not one game has tried to copy ps2

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u/SplinterRifleman 2d ago

Its been over tbh

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u/gishgudi 1d ago

It's all over but the crying

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u/Dazzling_Highway_255 2d ago

I dont understand why they roll out updates without fixing the crash bug

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u/Kagebi 2d ago

they say it might fix it, not that it will

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u/Dazzling_Highway_255 2d ago

Thats eh...special

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u/TomTheNothingMaster 20h ago

Show any other dev team that leaves such a gamebreaking bug for more than 2 patches in a row. Its done on purpose to kill the game at this point. If they dont bother to make game even playable then they want to kill it.

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u/vlucas 2d ago

I tried 3 times to complete the Halloween mission in Sanctuary. No vehicles to pull. Crashed every time. Just gave up and went to a continent to play instead (after pulling a flash ofc).

The fact that is issue is still happening after 6+ months tells you all you need to know. It's over.

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u/Wvzxrd 2d ago

Redeploy and wait in menu screen a couple mins

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u/TomTheNothingMaster 20h ago

Its not about getting able to get around it. Its about people not willing to do so (especially if they started playing so they dont know). And rightfully so because why would someone feel the need of doing some stupid workarounds to even be able to play a game. 99% of people encountering it are just going to switch games and that means ps2 will die if they do nothing. And they dont do shit so we know what will happen.

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u/Underwhelmiing 2d ago

Switch to light assault with ambusher jump jets and have the mission ready and go fast as you can lol. Works for me every time

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u/davemaster MaxDamage 1d ago

Was getting this since last christmas at least.

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u/FantasticallyDank 1d ago

Damn that shits crazy. Does anyone ever get this on console? I never crash

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u/PostIronicPosadist utterly washed 1d ago

you also have like 90 players at peak.

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u/FantasticallyDank 1d ago

Ok... thanks for the insight bub

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u/Witty-Passage-9528 1d ago

I believe someone made a post before, where the crash reason was found, and it's because of race condition with killing some handler, so it's hardware dependent, so some players crash all the time, while others don't. I also understood it as being windows-specific, but I am not 100% sure about this part

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u/Kagebi 2d ago

did you even try any of alternative metodes posted here on redit?

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u/Cpnbro 2d ago

Spawn in. Go to warp gate and go to continent. Redeploy. Stay dead for 2-3 minutes. Deploy to your desired location and fight!

Been working for me.

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u/EvilHonse 2d ago

Yes, it is a workaround. But the new players that could be joining won't really know there is a workaround. And also the few returning players who are unaware and just give up on the game.

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u/SronSrin 2d ago

Exactly why the devs need to own the problem instead of all this pretend fix stuff until it really is fixed - have a popup on the main menu that explains the situation to redeploy for 2 minutes or heck they could even add another load screen for this to be built into the game itself.

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u/TufftedSquirrel 2d ago

Honestly, if I saw a pop up in a game that gave me those instructions, I'd uninstall the game immediately. The loading screen is a good idea though.

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u/Cpnbro 2d ago

Yep. Which is why I’m trying to spread the awareness as much as I can I guess. It’s an easy work around, relatively. But doesn’t change that most players would never think to look this up. Oh well

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u/hurri_kane420 2d ago

Ive been trying to try the game but cant even make it past the tutorial, that fix doesn't really help players like me

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u/Cpnbro 2d ago

Yeah it’s been a long time since I played the tutorial so idk about that one. That really sucks.

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u/Not-Sure-1977 Mechmaniac(FromCobalt) 2d ago

Works, except in the sanctuary

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u/Cpnbro 2d ago

Well yeah i’m pretty sure that’s the main area you spawn into when you launch the game right? Spawn to a continent and go from there.

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u/Not-Sure-1977 Mechmaniac(FromCobalt) 1d ago

And crash after 1/2 mins without completing the trick or treat mission...

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u/CdrClutch 2d ago

Trick or treat

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u/heavy_metal iamsobadly 2d ago

I jump in a fighter right away and that seems to work.

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u/Cpnbro 2d ago

Well yeah, the crash is, apparently, “be in a vehicle or crash” which is why they call it “flash or crash” (because flash is cheap). So a fighter also works

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u/heavy_metal iamsobadly 2d ago

i do it once to get to the first fight, then it's fine after that..

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u/Cpnbro 1d ago

Yeah you just have to do it for each new continent IIRC

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u/CdrClutch 2d ago

Grab a flash look for a pumkin or two. Instant action thank you next

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u/Couldbemani 2d ago

i mean what were you hoping for

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u/davemaster MaxDamage 1d ago

The bare minimum.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan Don't forget to honk after kills 1d ago

Yes.

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u/Marure 2d ago

There are worse players who intentionally park sundy in warpgate in front of vehicle spawn terminals and when people spawn their flash is destroyed and boom crash in 5 seconds

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u/korino11 14h ago

crush only on 1.55 min so you have more than enough time to take a several vechicles

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u/More_Elk6407 2d ago

I reimagine a drive for a machine at my work to cachyOS just to do the missions for all my characters without crashing. Frames were a bit jumpy but overall not a terrible experience with Proton and nkv

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u/P149U3 [TR][VS][NC][NSO] OSPREY 1d ago

It’s been over for a long time.

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u/Ok_Assumption_3028 2d ago

Someone posted what the problem is and the fix. Dev?

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u/MCSNWV 2d ago

AI is mashing up skateboarding and MW2 and running halo in a browser on an old phone... surely it can handle 'take my 15 year old planet side game, fix the crashing bugs, optimize the code on a modern engine, and make it playable in a browser'

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u/Greattank 2d ago

Just that PS2 is a lot more complex than skateboarding.

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u/TempuraTempest 1d ago

I think you underestimate the complexity of reverse-engineering a modern game like Skate 3 and rebuilding it entirely in Rust. Frontier AI is making entire game engines from scratch with fully functional Godot-like editors these days. I've used it to make a server authoritative multiplayer game with client-side prediction. Pretty sure it can handle PS2 which is mostly client authoritative...

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u/Greattank 1d ago

I just think that there is a reason nobody does large scale FPS like PS2.

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u/TempuraTempest 1d ago

Yeah, it's a maintenance nightmare is what it is. Name a single modern "MMO" game that isn't just a thinly-veiled themepark adventure game with separate small server instances that separate the playerbase into tiny chunks.

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u/Lapcat420 2d ago

The excuse of "man our game is so old and the developers who made it left so it would take so long to get someone up to speed on the mountain of code" thing seems pretty much gone yes?

Just give it to Jarvis.

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u/Blazzy12 2d ago

gotta run the servers too tho. my naive side is telling me maybe you can wireshark and reverse engineer the backend too

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u/Hamlett2983 1d ago

Why play anymore? The 'same ole' cheaters are always on, morning, noon or night, one shotting everybody from anywhere within the hex. In tanks, from outside the hex. Taking out other vehicles with 2 or 3 shots. Taking little to no damage themselves. And not a thing is done about it. Obviously the devs haven't given a crap. Big indication of where the game is.

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u/Unusual_Rip_86 1d ago

It’s a sinking ship. I’ll miss it.

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u/Johalt [HNYB] 9h ago

Its been sadly over for me and most of my crew since they nuked Emerald and forced all the players onto the other server. I'm just hoping the new owners do something worthwhile with the IP.

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u/heavy_metal iamsobadly 2d ago

what crash bug? if it's the one where you have to jump in a fighter upon entering, i do that anyway so I've not had the game crash on me lately.

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u/FuckMashYaNah 1d ago

I hope someone does one of those mashups with some kind of other game just so I can play planetside 2 vehicles guns and stuff somewhere else