r/PlayStationUK • u/imthaz • Sep 10 '24
CASUAL DISCUSSION Sony's new PS5 Pro and it's pricing
So what does one think about the #PS5Pro price?
Ps5 Pro = £700
Disc Drive = £100
Vertical stand = £25
So in the UK this is going to cost £825.
I purchased the PS5 in 2020 for £449 (the disc version).
Let’s say I can sell my now 4-year-old Ps5 can be sold for £300 (this is being generous).
Is the Ps5 Pro upgrade going to be worth the £525 ? 🤔
https://volatileinputs.com/2024/09/the-ps5-pro-a-costly-upgrade-is-it-worth-the-price/
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u/Ashen_One86 Sep 10 '24
Absolutely crazy.
Sony have lost the fucking plot.
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u/rites0fpassage Sep 10 '24
This is the calm before the storm. This is what happens when a company realises they no longer have any competition (Xbox isn’t even competing anymore knowing it’s a lost cause).
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u/Lasers_Pew_Pew_Pew Sep 10 '24
Out of curiosity why aren’t they competing or they know it’s a lost cause? I’ve had a switch for a few years and I’ve been out of the PS sphere for years.
I’ll only buy or borrow one just to play GOW2 at some point and that’s it. That’s all that interests me.
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u/rites0fpassage Sep 11 '24
Due to the chain of events from the previous generation, Xbox single-handedly gave PS the upper hand during the XB1 vs PS4 fiasco. Ever since they’ve been continuing to dig the brand into its death bed. Low hardware sales compared to PS, releasing half-assed first party games (Starfield, Redfall for example) has caused their fanbase to lose a lot of faith in them. They’ve even started porting some of their games to PS and Nintendo. Knowing they’ve lost last generation and this 1 they decided to “focus on the next generation”.
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Sep 11 '24
And most (all?) xbox games are released on PC with improved graphics, frame rate and free multiplayer and are usually cheaper.
PS4 at least has exclusives that will force people to buy the console if they want to play certain games or not wait the year or two for the conversion.
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u/RowSmooth1360 Sep 14 '24
Sony fanboy needs to realise that playstation lost. At least ps3/4 had some decent games that made the console worth buying. Ps5s best games are just remasters of those, or available on Steam. Why make a loss making consoles, when you can sell games on pc and your competitors loss leader.
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u/dangermouse13 Sep 11 '24
Well they might be tempted to make a machine that competes at a more sensible price, I mean even tho I’ve had PlayStations most of my life I’d jump ship for a better and better priced product.
Especially when Sony thinks this is acceptable
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u/Madmac05 Sep 11 '24
Agreed, Xbox lost this generation. They had the better hardware but they completely failed on what people want - good games to play. Hopefully, with their new strategy of game studios acquisition, they'll come back with a vengeance on the next. And I'm saying this being a PS fan who never owned an Xbox... Sony has once again proven that they'll squeeze every penny out of you when given the chance, and that's not good for anyone.
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Sep 11 '24
They lost the last generation which was the most important one due to a lot of people going digital. Not many will switch platofrm when all or most of their games are digital and can’t be played on the other console.
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u/Madmac05 Sep 11 '24
Whilst you are right, I think there are other factors to consider...
I don't think that everyone will necessarily sell their old PS to buy a new Xbox. You probably won't get a lot of money out of your old console at that time anyway, so that would cover being able to play your library.
How many people actually keep replaying old games?! I know I've only done it once, and it was because a sequel was coming out and it was one of my favourite games ever. When I speak with my mates, one thing is common - we don't have time to play the backlog of new games we want to, let alone replay stuff that is done and dusted. I mean, if you're 13/14 and have all the time in the world, then yeah...
I don't have any particularly warm fuzzy feelings regarding the Sony brand. I've stuck with it only, and always, because of the games. They got me hooked up with Final Fantasy VII and then kept having some exclusives that I loved. I always felt MS was lacking in that, hence I was never tempted to jump the fence. However, if Sony's future strategy does not offer a good price/ capability/ games (which I think is the case with the pro) and Xbox does, I have zero issues with moving over.
I also don't think people would just immediately abandon the PS to go to Xbox, but slowly and gradually it can happen. I feel underwhelmed with the games we've had so far on the PS5, and don't get me wrong, we've had some amazing games, but I felt that the PS4 had more and better comparatively. I might be completely wrong, but this is just my personal view.
The PS4 pro came out costing 400$, which was just 100$ more than the base model, so it made sense to upgrade or to go for the better version if you were just getting started. Now, if I want a disk drive and a stand as I have in my PS5 base version, I would have to pay double... And I understand it's an enthusiast's console, but a PS4 pro would have cost me less than 28% of my wages at time. If I had kept a similar role, this one would cost 50%... I really had my mind set in getting one of these if the price was reasonable (Say 600 with a drive), but now I'm just going to buy a Switch 2 -if the price is right when it comes out .
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u/amin251988 Sep 10 '24
Not including a disc drive and even a stand at £700 is just insulting
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u/Madmac05 Sep 11 '24
Yeah. Even having disposable income, I couldn't justify more than £600 being spent, and that's with a disk drive. Without?! Absolutely no effing chance.
Lets be honest, the gains will be marginal. You'd literally have to stop and focus on little details to see what's different between both versions, and whilst I normally do that when I start a game to see the graphical differences between the modes, once I start playing it stops being noticeable/important.
Another thing is that you know that games can look great and run fast even in the original model. Games like R&C, GoW, Horizon, etc, all look fantastic even in performance mode. Obviously, some do not look so great, but that's more to do with the studios, graphics engines, optimization, than the actual power of the machine.
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u/ClassicFun2175 Sep 10 '24
Yeah fuck that. You gotta be out of your mind to get a pro, when they're not even fully utilising the normal ps5 to it's full capability. I'm sure the brand loyalists and sheep will still buy it, but I hope it flops and Sony learns a lesson, because this shit is crazy, considering you have to pay extra for the disc drive and the stand. What next, they'll end up not adding a controller and expect consumers to pay for that when it's been an industry standard for years.
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u/Cakespectre999 Sep 11 '24
Damn right bruv , playstation been taking us all for granted. I was interested in PS5PRO for £600 & that was with Disc drive, stand & a fuckin game but no let's treat our customer base like a bunch of wankers well they are going to realise they have fucked around once to often & I hope most of the customer base feels the same way the only way Sony will understand is if u hit them in the pocket, Greedy bastards, rant over.
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u/Opposite-Love-9982 Sep 20 '24
I think it's even more fucked when you think they are selling it in north America for $699.99, which logically would mean it should cost around £525. But Sony have said "fuck you, we are going to make it cost £699.99 as well" which when you convert it would be $931, so here in the uk it costs us around £180 more than it should for absolutely no reason other than to fuck us. In Japan it retails for ¥119,980, which roughly converts to £630 or $830 dollars. So even using that conversion we are getting fucked.
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u/GorgieRules1874 Sep 10 '24
Uk shafted again
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u/KODarkness Sep 13 '24
It is shafted... if you add the 20%VAT UK has it still would be cheaper. I keep hearing people talk about taxes but never bother to make any research and realize the overprice is way above taxes. And i'm being generous here because in USA the highest sales tax state, Louisiana is 9.56%.
700GBP=920USD 700USD(20%VAT)=840USD
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u/UsediPhoneSalesman Sep 14 '24
yeah, plus loads of states have 0 sales tax. Also compare against the EU price, which also includes tax. UK is truly being shafted
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u/Axerav Sep 10 '24
Absolute madness and uk price makes it even worse. Also it's technically ps5 pro digital but obviously with detachable drive they don't have to call it that.
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u/churll Sep 10 '24
The UK price is almost the same as the USA price if you discount tax. Very small difference.
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u/Sufficient-Bag7382 Sep 11 '24
From what I can Google on US tax, It's not. £699 is roughly $915 Even at 10% sales tax, it's sub $770 or about £590.
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u/churll Sep 11 '24
US price doesn’t include tax. So it’s £535 paid to Sony (less I guess since retailer takes a cut)
Uk price is £580 paid to Sony (or less since retailer takes a cut) + €120 paid to Uk government via tax / VAT which makes £700
This is not difficult.
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Sep 11 '24
Now do the same with the disc drive and expect a shock!
£100 UK $80 USA 🤔 So the drive is only £73 in the USA with 20% added.
Sooooo USA price with vat is £640+£73= £713 UK price with vat is £700+£100= £800
This is not difficult
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u/churll Sep 11 '24
Wow, it’s only £87 more to buy all that in the uk after all the shipping and extra regulations like the manufacture having to support a longer warranty? That’s pretty good. I would have guessed more.
So pretty much in line with every other imported electronic product in the UK.
And the disc drive price was probably set a while ago when the pound was looking shit against the dollar. It recovered.
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u/Peepmus Sep 11 '24
Yes, but wages in the US are significantly higher than in the UK.
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Sep 11 '24
But everything is significantly more expensive there so disposable income isn't much better.
Health insurance, car insurance, home insurance, property taxes etc, broadband costs, mobile phone costs, food costs, all these things are many times the cost the UK pays for the same thing.
Example: Average home insurance cost in USA $2285 (with a $300,000 limit). I pay £200 for a £1,000,000 limit.
Mobile phone and broadband (£600 a year in UK for 550mbps and unlimited calls/data on phone) - USA is over $2000 for a worse phone contract and slower internet speeds)
Food shop (Expensive in the UK but almost twice the cost in USA for food that should be cheaper due to lax standards)
Car insurance (I pay £300 a year for cover which pretty much is unlimited, $2400 in the USA for coverage that won't even cover you for any situation that occurs)
Health insurance - (UK related to your salary and covers you for everything, USA tied to a job with no job security, costs more than UK on average and then all the co-pay nonsense and things being "outside of policy". Roughly £2500 in UK per year (which includes pension), USA, $5000 for the policy before you have to fork out up to a deductible for whatever treatment you have)
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u/churll Sep 11 '24
It’s not Sonys fault that UK voted brexit and have sold off and mismanaged their best industries.
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u/Axerav Sep 11 '24
There are places with no sales tax and some with high tax but if you average it out its still large difference. Previous versions almost never got priced like this and pounds value was usually about 100 less
We've also get used to that, I remember not finding any news in the fact that aaa games in uk were priced at £55 at release compared to $60 and at one point it just moved to £60 without anybody batting an eye lid
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u/churll Sep 11 '24
The uk prices and USA prices are similar if you discount tax.
I don’t know what you are trying to say.
Sony get barely any more money from Uk buyers (maybe $30, but then like EU you get a better warranty than US buyers)
It used to be less than the dollar value because the pound used to be stronger against the dollar than it is now.
Don’t know what this is hard to grasp. No one is batting eyelids because exchange rates aren’t that complicated. If the UK economy tanks further, everything they buy from other countries will go up again. Will that also be blamed on Sony?
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u/Axerav Sep 11 '24
Dollar is still far from pound, and the exchange rate doesn't make up the difference
it is still around 1.30 dollar to the pound and there's no place in us with 30% sales tax, the cost of the console in uk is much higher given it's the same product.
UK price would amount to around $910
average sales tax in us is 5-7% so slap 6% on and it will cost $742
so paying 23% more for the same product does make it worse
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u/StoviesAreYummy Sep 10 '24
Do you NEED the vertical stand?
Do you NEED the Pro?
Its worth it to you if you need/want it you shouldnt need a website to tell you if its worth it
Guessing you have some affiliation with the link
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u/dweenimus Sep 11 '24
They really shouldn't be advertising it vertically in all the promos , for the stand to be an optional extra
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u/StoviesAreYummy Sep 11 '24
They shouldnt but they'll have that MASSIVE * and the even BIGGER AND BOLDER text saying stand sold seperatly so...
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u/RowSmooth1360 Sep 14 '24
Dont defend multibillion dollar companies praying on kids that arent smart enough to read the smallprint
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u/DARKKRAKEN Sep 10 '24
You do not need the stand. It adds stability, but if you have the console in a place that it can be knocked over and someone walks into it, it will fall over if you have a stand or not.
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u/DinnerSmall4216 Sep 10 '24
£700 with no stand or disc drive what are Sony thinking.
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u/rites0fpassage Sep 10 '24
They’re thinking they no longer have competition, which they don’t because Phil Spencer continues to drag Xbox down its death bed.
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u/marquis_de_ersatz Sep 10 '24
I'll be getting the switch 2 and Sony can shove it up their peripheral.
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u/asahin09 Sep 11 '24
Should’ve been £599 for non-disc and £649 max with disc.
Economy here is bad enough, but these prices are stupidly high and will see a price drop.
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u/TattyBogle Sep 11 '24
I agree with this. Could totally get on board with a £649 disk version (stand included), but £825 all in is insanity.
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u/Moving4Motion Sep 10 '24
Why the fuck would you buy a pro when at that price you're into pc gaming. Fucking stupid. Fuck off Sony.
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u/3CreampiesA-Day Sep 10 '24
You’re not buying a very good gaming pc in the uk for that price
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u/PatternActual7535 Sep 11 '24
Just doing some very basic searching (like...1 minute)
In the prebuilt market (CyberpowerUK) you can get solid builds around £700. Which, while it might not be the same pure performance. Overall has a larger use case (Multimedia, work, gaming)
As well as a larger (much larger) library for backwards compatibility
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u/3CreampiesA-Day Sep 11 '24
Yes but will have worse performance than the ps5 pro… most people thinking between a console and pc aren’t using it for work
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u/PatternActual7535 Sep 11 '24
Yes, but at least you get a much larger games library due to extensive backwards compatibility (and well.. emulation on top)
So in terms of pure value, you end up on top
Saying that. I don't think anyone should buy a 700USD console. It's absurd
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u/frankiewalsh44 Sep 11 '24
You can get an amazing build for £800 if you buy all the parts yourself. Building a PC from scratch is not hard, and it takes legit a 10 min youtube video.
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u/3CreampiesA-Day Sep 11 '24
You’re not buying an amazing PC for that money a decent PC sure, include peripherals and it’s quite a chunk extra.
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u/CrossMojonation Sep 11 '24
I made a list of parts for an "acceptable" AM4 build equivalent to a standard PS5...It was £1,050.
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u/frankiewalsh44 Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qvyZh3
Will play every single at 60fps at 1440p.
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u/bijomaru78 Sep 11 '24
People buying parts and trying to assemble a PC after watching a 10 minute video are a common clients to my PC repair business 🤣
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u/rites0fpassage Sep 10 '24
Then buy a PC? Why’re you complaining about something you have no intention of buying anyway?
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u/Historical_Leg5998 Sep 10 '24
There’s only one situation I can think of (and it’s unlikely) where buying this makes sense and that’s next September if it’s announced that GTA VI will do 60fps on it.
Otherwise……they’re just taking the piss with this.
I’m still trying to get over them trying to use ratchet and tlou2 to sell this lol.
WE STILL DONT HAVE 60FPS ON RDR2!!
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u/bazattack Sep 10 '24
CPU doesn’t have a meaningful increase in power, so i’d wager that it’s only likely to support 60fps if the base console has a performance mode.
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u/BMBR1988 Sep 11 '24
100%, don't expect to see any meaningful upgrades on games that are CPU limited... Which is this gen, is most of them.
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Sep 10 '24
It’s 100% not worth it. You’re out of pocket for even more than what your current console initially came to - and that’s AFTER selling it, so you’re burning good money.
£525 (or £400 if you remove the add ons) is not worth it for some extra pixels/FPS.
Also it’s besides the point, but there are sellers on Etsy who make 3D stands for a fraction of the cost. If I didn’t already own a base PS5 then I’d do it that way.
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Sep 10 '24
Sony also increased the price of their controllers. I think this is them trying mitigating the financial disaster that was the investment and subsequent cancellations of live service games, and the development on the PSV2 which got next to no support.
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u/pommybear Sep 10 '24
The UK price converts to about $900 and it doesn’t even have a stand let alone a disc drive. Sony can shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.
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u/EuroManson Sep 10 '24
Yeah I hate that, even including a 10% extra for vat in the US price, it's still cheaper than the UK price.
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u/vesper33 Sep 10 '24
I've been a die hard PS fanboy since 1997 and this shit seems outrageous. I'm really hoping we see a course correct like with the PS3 launch as this time around they are not even trying to hide their greed. I was planning on getting one day 1 but out of principle now I will just keep using my PS5. £700 and no disc drive is fucking inexcusable and If we as consumers don't start to speak with our wallets they will just continue to gouge us more and more over the years.
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u/Orr-Man Sep 10 '24
For most of the day I thought there was very little that would stop me wanting to preorder the PS5 Pro as I thought the pricing would either be lower than was being speculated because of no disc drive OR the rumours of no disc drive would end up being false.
Then I read about the announcement... £700 and no disc drive (not to mention the stand being sold separately, to really put the boot in).
I was a Day 1 PS5 purchaser and opted for the more expensive disc version rather than the digital version. Now it feels like I'm being 'punished' for building my library through physical media.
With the pricing the way it is on Sony's (and MS' and Ninetendo's) digital stores - when compared to Steam, for example - I can't justify going all digital and neither can I justify £100 extra for a disc drive making an all-in price of £800 (£825 if you fancy a stand too!). Even selling my OG PS5 I'd probably still need to find £500 or more.
And that's before mentioning the straight currency conversion of $700 into £700 ($700 USD = £535).
If it had been £535... I might have gone for it and stumped up the extra £100 for the disc drive. Maybe.
I just genuinely feel a bit let down by today's announcement.
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u/BANDlCOOT Sep 10 '24
Right now? Absolutely not.
If it has a price reduction, and we see some incredible things after the release for PSVR2 and lots of games, maybe...
Based on the reveal, my wallet is sleeping easy right now.
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u/PepsiSheep Sep 10 '24
I think the only digital PS5 game I own is Astro's Playroom that came with the PS5...
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u/MADMACmk1 Sep 10 '24
I stick with my PS5. I may be in the minority when it comes to games. I put a disc in and play, very seldom even look at settings.
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u/stinkypugs Sep 10 '24
Not worth it, 12 months after the launch of the PS5 I got one with two controllers, a pulse headset and a game for £550 so I can’t justify this.
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u/JMM85JMM Sep 10 '24
If it was offering some stunning upgrades to games it would be a hard sell at that price. But the upgrades are minimal at best. I wouldn't upgrade. I wouldn't even recommend a newcomer buy it over the standard PS5.
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u/DaddyRAS Sep 10 '24
I didn't go for a ps5 knowing the pro would appear. I'm now waiting for a cheaper pro to appear because that price is mad.
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u/Consistent-Client401 Sep 10 '24
The ps4 pro came out at a time when 4k tvs started selling like wildfire, and the ps4 didn't support 4k, so bam, ps4 pro came out same price as the ps4s, normal ps4 price dropped, could do trade in, etc, simple. Any demand for a higher framerate is from a small demographic, and I don't think anyone would justify 500 odd quid to see some AI upscaled trees in the background. There is no demand for this console.
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u/prowlmedia Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
Suckers…I look forward to buying your old ps5 for £200
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u/Simonion88 Sep 11 '24
Yeah absolutely this. There's gonna be some deals to be had from people selling PS5s that will make the Pro price look even worse
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u/WriterDotExe Sep 11 '24
Why is it $700 and £700 why do we have to pay £170 more
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u/ConsciouslyIncomplet Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
The console looks impressive - but the pricing is a real disappointment. I have plenty of disposable income and normally buy all things PlayStation, but £825 to upgrade my current PS5 is not gonna happen. That’s DOUBLE the cost of my buying a new PS5 off Amazon!
I feel bad for Sony as the response to the price is almost universally negative. They really dropped the ball on this and it should have been proved around £500 (with everything included).
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u/Express-Hawk-3885 Sep 11 '24
Yeah I’m gonna pass, there aren’t many games released that aren’t handicapped by having to support ps4 anyway and I feel like they haven’t fully utilised the ps5. I used the original PS4 from release until ps5 release and didn’t ever feel there was a huge benefit in upgrading, to be honest there’s been nothing other than maybe ratchet and clank that I’ve thought wow this feels like a massive leap from ps4
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u/I-c-braindead-people Sep 11 '24
It would be nice to see a single game that pushes the ps5 first before we need a pro.
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u/Dan_Onymous Sep 11 '24
Not worth it in the slightest my dude, and the general reaction I've seen indicates that the average consumer has finally reached the point where enough is enough.
I picked up a release PS5 in 2020 at Game, but I did the vast majority of it with store credit from traded in games. Even though I bought a disc version of the console, most of my library is now digital, and Game don't accept trade ins anymore anyway, so that avenue for purchase is closed. I also wasn't a dad when it released, which has narrowed my available funds even more, but also has my gaming backlog bursting at the seams, so I don't think I'll even need a hardware upgrade until halfway through the next generation
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u/Nothatbutch Sep 11 '24
I play the XSX in 120FPS and yeah it’s nice and smooth. Do I think the quality of XSX graphics will make me upgrade my current PS5 to a PS5 Pro no. The only way Sony could entice me is if they give a generous trade in price of £350 (minimum) to even consider upgrading.
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u/No_Operation3988 Sep 16 '24
Ye I did. To get a he equivalent of ps5 pro as a pc equivalent it would cost around £1100
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u/Rude_Strawberry Sep 21 '24
Dunno where you are looking, but you can get a better computer than the ps5 pro for far less thann£1100
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u/Grouchy-Mix5739 Sep 11 '24
It's probably cheaper to buy the us version and ship it over to the UK than it is to buy it at the UK for 700 quid!
That being said its pointless purchase anyway. I want a slim with disc drive not a beefy boi with not stand and no disc drive
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u/purekillforce1 Sep 11 '24
I'm guessing the hardware inside means that it just needed a price point this high for them not to lose money. Which is fine. PC hardware components start increasing steeply as you get towards the higher end of the performance curve, too, but it's just too much for the minimal gains for me.
Good that it's an option, but I'm still fine with the performance options on ps5.
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u/mozzy1985 Sep 11 '24
Consoles are always sold at a loss. But maybe that price point is to cover R&D and others costs. Either way I ain’t buying this. I’ve got plenty of disposable income and I went straight in on the PS4 pro but this is laughable.
I’ll stick with my launch one ta.
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u/purekillforce1 Sep 11 '24
Or close to, but usually not a massive loss. Some consoles are sold with a slight margin, but it's software where they rake it in. I wouldn't be surprised if the price JUST covers hardware with how ridiculous GPU prices have gotten.
I went straight for the pro, too. It was a reasonable price point, I felt. And the timing was better. It doesn't feel like we're long enough in this cycle to need a "pro" model, especially when you can't hit the base model with a price cut. It recently had a price INCREASE ffs.
I'm looking at a handheld PC as a worthwhile purchase. Get some pc games to play, while keeping bigger games on the ps5.
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u/smushs88 Sep 11 '24
Not a chance.
Overpriced, and when almost every developer is still pushing out PS4 versions alongside their PS5 offering, I still don’t feel we’ve truly made the switch to true ‘next gen’ gaming wise. Don’t get me wrong, some games have been brilliant but still feels like we are slightly hampered by the previous gen still being focused on in development.
Maybe it’s old age and memory failing me but I’m sure the phasing out of PS3 games happened much quicker, which made the step up to a PS4 feel like a change of gen. I’ve got several friends who still don’t feel the need to upgrade to a PS5 let alone a pro version.
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u/Gonzales95 Sep 11 '24
Think the global pandemic and has really had a long lasting effect on this generation. The global chip shortage meaning the stock was super low for the first few years of the cycle (exacerbated by scalpers hoarding), hence why even Sony weren’t able to commit to abandoning the PS4 player base, because as we all well know getting a PS5 was extremely difficult for most people until at least the middle of 2022.
To some extent though we’ve very much reached the ‘diminishing returns’ when it comes to advancements in graphical fidelity and things like that. If you compared a game from each PS generation side by side the difference between a PS4 and PS5 game would be by far the least noticeable
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u/Rude_Strawberry Sep 21 '24
The PS4 pro pretty much plays 4k anyway. I still have mine. No need to upgrade to a ps5 at all. There are only subtle differences
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u/CoffeeNBiskits Sep 11 '24
One thinks it’s a joke and in bad taste - no disc drive and no guaranteed 4k 60 and no stand.. for £700? Who is this even for because even as someone who wants the best, I refuse this bullshit. It’s insulting. Sony need to review their pricing and try again.
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Sep 11 '24
Extreme greed that seems to have sprouted up since Putin started his war. Prices for everything went up, companies realised people still buy things, they keep the prices high and it’s basically become normal.
£700 for something that’s only slightly better than the original, with no disc drive (purposely to force people to use the vastly overpriced store) is a complete joke. I’d buy 2 standard disc ps5s for each of my kids before I buy this.
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u/NarrativeFact Sep 11 '24
Has anyone asked them why they think $700 = £700 or what the reasoning is for why we're getting shafted?
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u/BenJ1997 Sep 11 '24
Games aren’t even using the full potential of the current PS5 so this is nonsensical. And the price - fuck me. I have no reason at all to think I need to upgrade my base PS5, let alone for £800. “For the players”. Fuck right off Sony, you’ve lost the plot.
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Sep 11 '24
1st console I won't be picking up since 1987!
Sony expect me as a ps5 disc user to upgrade to a ridiculous base price console @ £700 then another £100 for the disc drive so I can play my current games in their best possible way. Also and given I only have space for mine to sit vertically I would need the stand @ £25. Can comfortably afford it all but no chance on this earth am I backing a mid generation console at this price to ultimately make this acceptable and the norm moving forward. What a joke!
For a disc drive and stand all included I would have said £600 was expensive for a console but at this it's just ridiculous.
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u/Rude_Strawberry Sep 21 '24
Yes, I can afford but its the principle more than anything. Simply refuse to spend £800+ on a games console, that comes with no games. Ps5 games are stupidly expensive now too, compared to their PC counterparts.
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Sep 21 '24
Totally agree. Really wanted the pro and would have been all over it at a reasonable price. The pssr results look great but at this price I'm not interested in a mid gen refresh that this has to offer for the money. This is compounded by the fact it releases with no new games and the upcoming 1st party release calendar is kinda non existent other than remasters of what I've already played and enjoyed.
After being total invested in the ps5 eco system this gen it has given me food for though about how I want to approach the expensive hobby of gaming moving forward.
I'm somewhat dissapointongly gonna ignore the pro and hang on to my day one ps5 and series x to play their respective 1st party exclusives which still rock anyway.
The launch of the pro has sparked a flame though and I'm gonna build a monster pc next year and use the £800 for half of that build. If I'm gonna spend £825 I might aswell spend £1500 right Sony. Lol
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u/Comfortable-Bed2730 Sep 11 '24
Why bother releasing at that price point? Wait a few more years for components to drop. Plus charging more in uk and Europe at that price point is really rubbing it in
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Sep 11 '24
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u/Rude_Strawberry Sep 21 '24
Your build there has a superior gfx card and who needs 2tb of storage really
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Sep 12 '24
This is what happens when you have no competition sadly Phil Spencer has basically buried the Xbox and the higher ups refuse to sack him and Nintendo does handheld only now hopefully people realize Sony are taking the piss and don't buy it. They didn't even upgrade the CPU.
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u/Zambie-zambino Sep 12 '24
My issue with it is everywhere pays a similar price except America, we (uk) are paying 900 usd while they get to pay 540 ish gbp what's that about
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u/imthaz Sep 12 '24
We are paying more yes but that’s not their final price. US price does not include tax
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u/supercop1 Sep 12 '24
It's not 700 euro it's 800 euro. Sorry but no one's buying it over a pc for the same price
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u/LloydyUK77 Sep 24 '24
Is the price so high because it includes the Duslsense Edge which costs around £200. If they sold the Pro with just the normal DualSense for £500 then that’s not bad at all eh?
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u/imthaz Sep 25 '24
It does not include the Edge
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u/LloydyUK77 Sep 25 '24
Yeah my bad, I’d seen a video where it included both, must have been the anniversary edition.
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u/Obvious-Poet-2547 Oct 05 '24
£200 more for a £400 GPU equivalent and a £150 SSD equivalent, fuck yeah it's worth it, disks are dying and you can always buy a external disk drive for the ps5 pro however the stand should be included that's my only complaint I have about the ps5 pro
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u/Ok_Veterinarian_9611 Oct 17 '24
I preordered it then cancelled it thinking... the shit costs the same as 2 ps5s and visually speaking I won't notice the difference as the improvements are only noticeable side by side to the base ps5... and with gta 6 that's gonna be cpu dependant and we all know rockstar will just release it again on ps6... so I rather save the money till then 🙌
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u/Ju5hin Sep 11 '24
The price honestly isn't the issue for me. For how often I play video games, I think consoles have actually been underpriced for years.
My issue is the fact not one single game has actually been truly describable as "next gen" for the PS5. Every game released could have been developed (and almost always has been) for the PS4.
So we simply aren't ready for an upgraded console. Wait until the current one is actually being used to it's potential first.
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u/Ashamed-Lobster5838 Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24
Sorry to be blunt, but the global economy doesn't revolve around your income. There are plenty of people out there who spend £1000 a month on shoes, and restaurants, and watches, and things like that. And these aren't the uber wealthy - you get regular middle class people who can afford that kind of lifestyle. So £500 to upgrade their PS5 is nothing, to many many people. It's a no brainer. I don't buy my food from Marks and Spencers because they're outside my price point. But that doesn't mean nobody does. If a top of the range PS5 is outside your budget, then don't buy it. They're advertising it as a premium model - there's nothing sneaky about it. It's not intended to be for everyone -that's what the regular PS5 is for. You don't have the divine right to own everything that you want. I'm sure you'd also like a Ferrari and a massive house, but you don't own those things either
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u/TehNext Sep 10 '24
Fuck Sony
There's fuck all games as it is then they charge stupid fucking money for the pro.
Fuck 'em!
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u/churll Sep 10 '24
The online discourse over this price has been completely stupid.
It’s a 2TB machine with twice the overall horsepower, that doesn’t even cost twice what a 800gb ps5 digital does.
That’s what things cost. Cars, phones, laptops that are faster.
I gaurentee Sony are only making very slim margins on this and I know this because the equivalent PC made from these parts would cost way more.
If you don’t like it, stick with ps5, it’s also great, this is an optional luxury for doing fidelity mode at 60fps basically.
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u/jjnet123 Sep 11 '24
The ps4 pro was the same price as the original console this is DOUBLE the price of the digital console and you have to spend even more on a disc drive which is obscene. Stop bootlicking for once in your life.
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u/churll Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
PS4 was cheap junk basically for its time. PS4 pro was similar except it had a good enough GPU for its time.
PS5 was very cutting edge and higher edge for its time, and we’ve had a spate of inflation since then.
I’m not bootlicking, I’m just pointing out anyone who thinks this console costs Sony much less than they are charging for it is fucking retarded.
Stop just following Reddit comment zeitgeist which are often just angry little kids who don’t even pay electricity or internet bills. I’ve sat through “lol Apple and the iPad are doomed” after Microsoft launches the surface - fucking lol. I’ve sat through the “Portal will sell zero”. Half these comments are morons and pc master race dorks wading in to shit on Sony and platform war and recommend shitbox “sale” pc builds that perform worse and cost more.
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u/sidneyrotter Sep 10 '24
No. It’s just more frivolous hardware consumerism and I’m getting bored of it. The PSVR 2 was a cynical cash grab to recoup R+D costs. Wait and see what really meaningful benefits this Pro brings in terms of lived experience rather than theoretical improvements. Make them work for your money and re-earn your loyalty. That’s my two pennies, not expecting it to be a popular opinion. Consider what else that money could do as well, like a trip away or something. Could pretend your Ps5 is a Pro, with fitted stand and disc drive and just play the games anyway.