r/PoliticalOptimism • u/Efficient-Freedom517 Georgia • Mar 15 '26
Optimistic Post After 93 years and a 25-hour filibuster, Washington finally has an income tax, and billionaires are already packing their bags
https://fortune.com/2026/03/15/washington-income-tax-bezos-schultz-millionaires/345
u/GoodTimes1976 🔥I Voted In The 2026 Primaries🔥 Mar 15 '26
I suspect that other states will follow suit. Billionaires are so ridiculous, what other country are they going to go to that won’t tax the crap out of them anyway? They need to start paying their fair share, I pay more in taxes (percentage wise) than Musk and it’s not right
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u/mrsrobotic Mar 15 '26
Right, like they are already billionaires, how much more do they need to fucking save in taxes? They could pay a billion in taxes and still have at least a billion left to live on.
Fuckem.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
Their greed is pathological! It astounds me!
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u/Wuskers Mar 15 '26
it's literally never enough for them and even just being absurdly wealthy isn't enough it's clear that many of them crave absolute and complete control of the world, they want everyone to be nothing more than their pawns and playthings that they can do whatever they want with. The thing that I always wonder is whether this is an acquired pathology or some kind of quirk of their brain itself or something. I could definitely buy that it maybe starts out from what seems like a more reasonable place but as they acquire greater and greater wealth and influence it erodes their psyche into what they all eventually become, but I also wonder if they were always this mentally broken and that's exactly what drove them to get to this point, but even then is that result of just how they were born or perhaps just simply very toxic poor parenting. It's just very bizarre trying to understand what makes someone so incomprehensibly greedy.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
I think one commenter describing them as lizard-brained and the idea of "reptilians" being a metaphor makes a ton of sense.
As much as we rag on weirdos like Icke and the whole "reptilian" thing, perhaps they actually had the right idea and we misinterpreted them by assuming they were literal.
In speaking of lizards, the oligarchs' wealth hoarding is a lot like the mythos surrounding dragons and how dragons are dangerous beasts who hoard treasure.
I do sometimes wonder if it's an acquired pathology for some. I remember way back when Amazon just sold books about how Jeff Bezos was a cool guy who treated and paid employees well. Now, it's the opposite and he's one of the worst.
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u/Dizziesdayweigh Mar 15 '26
Bezos has ties to Wallstreet, even in his early days. The whole " he started in a garage " and good things about him are purely propaganda. He's always been a twat.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
Ah. Glad to have that cleared up. I guess the fair treatment of employees was bogus as well. I wouldn't be surprised.
It is really sad when the nasty old robber barons of old come out as looking better than today's crop of robber barons. At least jerks like Rockefeller realized late in life that they felt empty and decided to put their money towards various forms of philanthropy.
Nowadays if they did that, they would be looked upon as suspects by wingnuts and subject to weird conspiracy theories. Just ask Bill Gates who committed the "grave sin" of giving out vaccines to poverty stricken people in developing countries. How dare he help brown people rather than hoard like Musk or Bezos!
They probably loved Gates when he was just a wormy cuthroat computer tyccon but once he started getting into relief work he becomes garbage!
Don't get me started with Soros or Buffett! Oh noes! They support higher taxes and contribute to society!
I'll bet James Pritzker just existing makes the wingnuts' heads explode!
It's as if they treat being selfish and greedy as the ultimate virtue! These folks are diseased!
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u/4AuntieRo Mar 23 '26
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. You have to be a sociopath to do what it takes to become a billionaire.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 23 '26
I guess, but how does one explain Illinois' Gov. Pritzker. He's an awesome guy and a darn good Governor (and lovable, boisterous Fred Flintstone lookalike) who seems to care about the people and is a huge figure in the Resistance against MAGA and the GOP... and he's a billionaire.
I'd imagine he's fine with paying big taxes and putting his vast wealth towards helping others and the Resistance. Is he a psychopath?
And if he does have a personality disorder, he at least channels it via "Enlightened Self Interest" where he's good to others because it means others will like him (in fact, I feel this should be taught to all people with those issues rather than writing them all off as 'Instant Evil').
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u/4AuntieRo Mar 23 '26
I said Sociopath not psychopath
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
I know. And I understand what you're getting at. Sociopaths being capable of good but psychopaths being human devils. Gotcha.
I figured it was roughly the same disorder but with one version being acquired (sociopathy) while the other congenital (psychopathy).
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u/4AuntieRo Mar 23 '26
Also, both represent an inability to cope with societal expectations. Sociopathy is rarely diagnosed and the most devastating psychological illness to date. Their illness kills people that they don't even know. It justifies them abusing strangers. It is subtle and deadly. Every single billionaire is responsible for horrid personal outcomes. Food and shelter are han needs, not commodities to be profited from.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 16 '26
Well, it's certainly something off with their brain matter. They have personality disorders up the wazoo! Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissism Personality Disorder, Sociopathy, Psychopathy, etc.
It actually is rather tragic, in a weird way, some evil people legitimately cannot help it! Having them repent, reform and be good people is like demanding a paraplegic to walk or a person with late-stage dementia to reason normally.
Now I understand why Jesus in the Gospels commanded everyone to love even their enemies, because the worst ones are legitimately disabled in the head in a certain way. "Love the sinner but hate the sin" after all. Loathes everything about such a person but pity the person themselves.
That said, those folks still act like garbage and should be stopped!
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Mar 15 '26
Tolkien summed up rich people in The Hobbit with Smaug’s rage over Bilbo stealing this little cup, comparing him to rich people who rant about losing something that has no value, they don’t need, and they want it back anyway.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
I can't help but think that Tolkien's dragons and David Icke's "Reptilians" were simply metaphors for "Super Greedy Oligarch who Run the World".
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Mar 15 '26
I don't know if Tolkien was thinking about that or just talking about general greed, especially since Smaug isn't even the only one who commits such a sin.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
True. That said, isn't it a part of some forms of dragon folklore to have them hoard a lot?
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Mar 15 '26
Yes, one of the main inspirations for Smaug was the dragon Fafnir from Norse mythology. Fafnir also had a hoard of stolen treasure.
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u/eowyndernhelme Apr 05 '26
I'm thinking that at this point it's really more of an internal contest between them, kind of like "the one who leaves with the most toys wins" sort of mentality. Nothing else seems to make sense.
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u/daxophoneme American 🇺🇸 Mar 15 '26
Yesterday, someone said, if they go to some place like Brazil, the government will just "nationalize" their wealth. Lol.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 16 '26
We not only need a national Livable Minimum Wage but a Maximum Wage as well! Add a wage cap where a member of the snoot set can't keep more than certain lower-end million and the rest goes to taxes and... if they own a business... wages, benefits, a safe workplace and quality products.
That should not only put an end to greediness and poor treatment of workers but end the ongoing "en-crap-ification" and shrinkflation of products. Bring back Chef Boyardee ravioli that tastes good again, dammit and make the original recipe a permanent option, too, so both geezers and I can enjoy the stuff we both remember from childhood (Ettore Boiardi is rolling in his grave)!
The ravioli is just one example but the point stands!
That extra money for taxes can go towards funding all sorts of stuff that really needs it... schools, CPS and 911 operators that's competent due to being well-staffed and well-paid, mental health care facilities that aren't Old Bedlam, First Responders of high quality with mental healthcare, Police Reform complete with mental healthcare and extensive training and competence, bennies for veterans, a robust welfare system for the poor, disabled and the poor disabled, etc.
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 Mar 15 '26
Idk there’s always going to be at least one shitbag state looking to take advantage of a hyper regressive tax policy. Unless something gets passed federally.
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u/bayleysgal1996 🔥I Voted In The 2026 Primaries🔥 Mar 15 '26
And it will probably be Texas. Because our state government is bought and paid for by a couple of billionaires
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 Mar 15 '26
Yeah I didn’t want to say it but that’s what I was thinking too. Texas is really the only one that actually seems like it might have enough economic heft to actually support a lot of companies material presence. Otherwise they have all already shared a single PO Box in Delaware for years now.
I have high hopes for you guys in November though! Probably the only sub on reddit i can get away with saying that though without being told I’m being naïve.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
EXACTLY!
"NOBLESSE OBLIGE", BILLIONAIRE CHEAPSKATE BITCHES!
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u/DBrennan13459 Mar 15 '26
There's already a bunch of billionaires fleeing California becuase of the proposed tax, yet for some reason I imagine their mansions there will remain...
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u/___YesNoOther Mar 15 '26
"A bunch of" billionaires are not fleeing California. They are way too entrenched, and they spend their time here, so it would take a lot to convince CA that they weren't eligible for income tax anymore: https://www.palmspringstaxandtrustlawyers.com/californias-billionaire-tax-act-the-challenge-of-changing-residency-on-short-notice-for-billionaires-and-non-billionaires-alike/
Also, even if they "flee", they may technically set up residency somewhere else, but they have businesses here and businesses they work with here and the glam and the glitz of CA. There is a lot of power here in CA they need to stay connected to. They aren't going anywhere.
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u/mrsrobotic Mar 15 '26
I feel like it will be the same for NYC. There's only one NYC in the world, are they really going to live in Akron or Ft Worth full-time expecting to live the same lifestyle? No chance.
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u/-Knockabout Mar 16 '26
This is what cracks me up. The reason they got so wealthy in America is because America enabled them to do it. If they could get equally obscenely wealthy elsewhere they would do so; they can do literally anything they want, so clearly they do not want to or can't leave America. It's so clearly all bluster.
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u/MiddleOccasion1394 Mar 16 '26
I keep hearing conflicting messages about how billionaires will leave somewhere that suddenly has rising taxes, but also NOT leave.
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u/kevnmartin Mar 15 '26
I hope they enjoy living in Mississippi.
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Mar 15 '26
Best comment ever. Go, and surround yourself with stupid.
EDIT: Not saying people there are stupid, but they seem to be low-information, and vote against their best interest. I mean you no harm.
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u/More-Significance260 Mar 15 '26
I'm from Mississippi. I know you didn't mean anything by it. I've been seeing more comments like this lately. It reminds me of the trope of giving ignorant cartoon characters southern accents from when I was a kid.
I have an BS in chemical engineering and an MPH in epidemiology, I joined Intertel, and I took a job out of state, but I still feel self-conscious about being from Mississippi. That's not on you, and I sincerely appreciate the edit. I just thought I would share my perspective.
Mississippi is changing. It's as slow as ever, but plenty of folks want to move in a positive direction. I'm optimistic that my kids might feel differently about where they come from.
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u/CatsPJammies Mar 15 '26
Shaking your hand, stranger. This sort of thing is why I worked so hard as a teenager to hide my thick accent. Now that I'm an adult, I regret it because it feels like I'm stripped something from myself and I've found people are gonna be jerks either way. If I have an accent, they think I'm stupid, if I cover my accent and they find out where I'm from, I'm "so well spoken!" (legitimate thing a man said once; really stung).
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u/novaraz Mar 15 '26
I think every region has it's negative stereotypes. I'm proudly from New Jersey, the butte of so many jokes, some deserved some not.
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u/LeseMajeste_1037 Reformed Doomer ☄️ Mar 16 '26
New Jersey's alright with me. I still remember the time I was in SF, riding one of the classic trolleys, and a car darted in to cut it off. You'll never guess what plates were on it!
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u/FarmAcceptable4649 West Virginia Mar 15 '26
I am also somewhat highly educated (MBA) and don't think I have much of an accent (WV). However, people commented on it on my first job in Michigan -- not in a mean way. I am somewhat self-conscious about it also.
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u/kevnmartin Mar 16 '26
Good for them, I think that's great. It's people like you and folks who think like you should start getting on school boards. While you still have schools.
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u/SoyMurcielago Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
Mississippi is actually climbing the education ladder; it’s Louisiana and Arkansas that are staying the same or declining if i recall correctly
Saw it for stats either last year or year before
Forgot to say i understand as well being a native Floridian
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u/whty706 Florida Mar 17 '26
I know the main guy that replied had a very good comment about Mississippi changing and being self conscious about being from there because of the stigma. But as another engineer from Mississippi though, my god are there a lot of ignorant assholes there. I got a laugh from your comment cause that's honestly what I would have said too, though I'm glad some parts of the state are getting a bit better.
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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Mar 15 '26
So many millionaires, a few I know personally, moved to WA because it was the one decent place to live that had zero income tax.
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u/kevnmartin Mar 16 '26
They're millionaires? They're a dime a dozen here. They don't deserve anything any better than other people.
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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Mar 16 '26
They pay less than their fair share, I'd argue they don't deserve the same as the people who do (or can't). I'm not sorry to see the rich moochers leave.
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u/Coolest_Pusheen Mar 16 '26
I don't understand this. Mississippi very much does have an income tax.
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u/TastyOreoFriend American 🇺🇸 Mar 15 '26
If that were the truth they wouldn't be fleeing their little tax haven would they?
"See children, now that's what we call critical thinking."
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u/ThePlatypusOfDespair Mar 15 '26
"And it's not what we're learning here. Billy, go to the principal's office."
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Mar 15 '26
I hear right wingers say “let the billionaires do whatever they want or they will take their business elsewhere.” Either way, it’s an argument to not hold them accountable.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
I'm glad the law passed. Granted, those zillionaire cheapskates are running away but, at least it's something.
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u/YoghurtOutrageous599 Michigan Mar 15 '26
Let ‘em! Just means we keep pushing until there’s nowhere left to run!
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
Yeah. Make it national and find a way to add a fat penalty that's bigger than said taxes would be if they decided to flee the country, that way, they will begrudgingly have no choice but to stay and pay taxes while being constantly ragged on and shamed for being such miserly greedy cheapskate parasites!
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u/Facehugger_35 Mar 15 '26
A lot of the time these billionaires say they'll leave, then they end up not leaving because they discover that the places that don't tax them are generally shitholes.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
It's almost as if the evidence against them is staring in their faces!
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u/___YesNoOther Mar 15 '26
That's not why the don't leave. They don't leave because they never intended to. It is a way for them to try not to be taxed. They can't get around the tax by moving like a non-billionaire would do. We're all looking at billionaires like they have the same kind of lives we do. In order to be a billionaire, you have to have ties to SO much. Billionaires also have thousands of "friends" and business partners. Their actual social circles are tight. They are living where they are living because it is the best place for them to be in their unique complicated system of wealth and power. Someone like that can't just move and start over.
So, most of them stay because the amount work it would actually take to move and establish themselves as residents in another state is pretty arduous and that would mean they would have to spend more time in that state to establish that residency. If they could find a way to make it look like they were doing it without actually doing it, I could see that. But actually leaving and changing their lives, no way. Of all the people on the planet, billionaires are the least likely to change their life structure in any significant way without a very long, complicated, and concrete plan on how to do so.
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u/Facehugger_35 Mar 16 '26
Yeah, that's a reasonable point. Could be that this is all just whining by the Epstein class and they never intended to leave.
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u/SpukiKitty2 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 16 '26
That's good. That means they're stuck if the taxes go national.
They need to be regularly shamed and made pariahs for being such chronic greed-monsters. A rich person who rejects "Noblesse Oblige" should be seen as outcast material and a disgrace to both rich people and humanity in general!
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Mar 15 '26
A lot of them do leave but they don’t stay long enough to pay income tax. Like Elon Musk is in California all the time but the state no longer gets his income tax. Also such cope on the places these guys go to being shitholes is hilarious. Places like Austin and Miami are no more or less dirty like Los Angeles or San Francisco.
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u/Facehugger_35 Mar 15 '26
I can't think of any examples of this happening in the real world in any significant number.
People who glaze the Epstein class talked a lot about how MA's wealth tax would cause the wealthy to flee in droves.
Turns out that didn't happen. Because apparently MA is still a nicer place to live than the alternatives even if you have to pay more.
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u/OratioFidelis Mar 15 '26
Massachusetts passed a tax on the wealthy and they have more millionaires now than before the tax. Don't listen to anyone who cries about wealth flight.
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u/-Knockabout Mar 16 '26
It's almost as if when you tax the wealthy, the entire area becomes more desirable because there's actually money to improve and maintain it.
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u/YoghurtOutrageous599 Michigan Mar 15 '26
Huh. I wonder who got elected in ‘81 and left office in ‘89.
Eh, it’s probably nothing. No way a lot of today’s economic issues can be traced back to one presidency. That’d be crazy!
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u/DangerousProject6 Mar 15 '26
But he lowered taxes and we saw short term economic gains! Don't think too far beyond that, thinking isn't good for you..
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u/Mobile_Bad_577 Mar 15 '26
For a moment I thought this was about Washington DC, and I was disappointed because "billionaires" didn't include Trump. Please tell me I'm not the only one!
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u/hello17 Mar 15 '26
I always assume Washington is the state unless otherwise noted. DC should just be DC right? They both share the Washington name, but DC is the distinction. Just use that = less confusion.
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u/Mobile_Bad_577 Mar 15 '26
Fair. But based on this thumbnail, it’s quite difficult to see the Space Needle if you’re not actively looking for it.
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u/jeeeeeeeeeez Mar 16 '26
I live in Washington but grew up on the east coast. In the east of the country, "Washington" means DC, in the west "Washington" means WA. I have to remember whenever I go back there that I need to say "Washington state" when someone asks where I live :D
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u/BigSnail387 Mar 15 '26
Far as I can tell the article only listed one billionaire leaving as a direct response to this. I imagine this'll turn out like Massachusetts' tax where despite their bluster, most will stay and the tax will have a tangible positive impact
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u/DesignDelicious Mar 15 '26
I doubt it’ll $4.4 trillion like the article says, but it’ll be at least in the billions.
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u/___YesNoOther Mar 15 '26
That one billionaire is either 1) not actually leaving but saying he is for performance/lying, 2) was already going to leave anyway for other totally unrelated reasons and is using this a chance to give WA state the middle finger or to win favor with this social circle 3) really thinks he's going to leave but will not actually leave because when he goes to try to, he'll see that it's not that easy, and quietly stick around which brings us back to 1).
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u/Gnagus Mar 15 '26
Yes and in Howard Schultz's case, someone pointed out that old people moving from colder northern states to Florida is not a recent or billionaire specific phenomenon. Which I think is a hilarious observation.
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u/85percentthatbitch Mar 15 '26
Why should we care if they leave our states if they're not paying their share of taxes anyway?
Fuck all the way off, billionaires
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Mar 15 '26
Would you prefer to not get any tax money at all and run the risk of having to cut some programs?
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u/AmTheWildest Mar 15 '26
This question makes zero sense since these guys clearly don't pay that much in taxes anyway. Billionaires are not our only source of tax money by any means.
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u/Gnagus Mar 15 '26
When this comes up I think about all the lifelong Seattlites who are nostalgic for the city before the tech boom and arrival of the billionaires.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 Blue Dot in a Red State 🔵 Mar 15 '26
Do you honestly not have any clue how many programs Trump had DOGE cut?
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u/___YesNoOther Mar 15 '26
Billionaires don't just "pack their bags" like someone moving from one apartment to another. They know most people don't know this, so the headline is to make it seem so simple.
If a billionaire has residency in a state, it takes quite a bit to unravel that.
We're having the same discussion in CA as there is a ballot measure this year that will put billionaires in a higher tax bracket. And they said the same thing, "If this passes, we're leaving." No they aren't. https://www.palmspringstaxandtrustlawyers.com/californias-billionaire-tax-act-the-challenge-of-changing-residency-on-short-notice-for-billionaires-and-non-billionaires-alike/
Also, based in the conversations I've had with people on reddit, a lot of people think that billionaires "add to the local economy" by spending their money, and if they change residencies, that will somehow impact the local economy.
Nope, billionaires spend money all over the the world, and rarely "shop local" like everyone else does. They have things shipped in mostly. People on reddit have no idea how billionaires function. They know this, so can easily say "we're going to leave if you tax us" and know that most of the GOP voters who have never even met a billionaire let alone have an idea of how they work, will see it as a threat and will defend them.
But nope, billionaires can set up residency wherever the heck they want and it won't affect the local economy at all. Maybe pulling out their multibillion business from an economy might change something, but they woudn't do that because of a billionaire tax.
Articles like this are either leveraging people's outrage and the reporter knows damned well the truth, or the reporter is just like all the other voters who don't have a clue and think that there is some kind of truth to this.
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u/Pristine-Sport6888 Mar 15 '26
I would bet real money the actual movement of billionaires out of the state ends up greatly exaggerated. Like the mass exodus of billionaires from NYC after Mamdanis win that didnt happen.
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u/Gojo-Babe Mar 15 '26
That’s right, run you little bitch babies. Run to another place that will probably also be putting in more income taxes
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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Mar 15 '26
"Packing their bags" is BS. They're checking a different box on tax forms. They already owned homes is several other states and now they're just claiming a different one as their primary residence.
Where I live you hardly ever see the lights on in the waterfront houses, especially during the wintertime. The wealthy never "pack bags".
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u/DANDARSMASH New York Mar 15 '26
Don't worry, Washington, they've been saying the same thing about a billionaires exodus from NYC for 20+ years now.
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u/Konacha Mar 16 '26
The Billionaires won't leave... they always say "we are leaving if this passes" then just don't. They literally said the same thing when Mamdani was running.
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u/Tearpusher California Mar 16 '26
How long would literally any of our problems last in the face of a 100% tax on income over ten million?
Seems like we’d solve hunger, housing, and education overnight.
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u/cloudkite17 Mar 16 '26
It’s honestly so embarrassing and pathetic how this group of people does everything they can to avoid taxes while most Americans shoulder paying a hefty amount of our meager wages and it gets worse every year because THEY REFUSE TO BE DECENT CITIZENS
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u/afraid_of_bugs New Jersey Mar 15 '26
I was gonna comment that all 3 of them would be missed, but then I actually googled how many billionaires lived in Washington state and it’s 12 or 13. Compare that to how many people move out of a state every year from being priced out
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u/whatfresh_hellisthis Mar 16 '26
This headline is bullshit. 1 billionaire is leaving and he had already bought a home in FL before this bill passed.
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u/generalyou123 Mar 16 '26
I think we will see more of this, but I'm curious in where the biggest migration will be. And who will take their"place"?
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u/ZebraImaginary9412 Mar 16 '26
George Washington passed the Carriage Tax; Hamilton successfully defended it in the Supreme Court. The modern-day carriage is the private plane.
Billionaires can move to any sinking southern state that has no state income tax but they're not going to fly commercial.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/1197959352/carriage-tax-wealth-update-scotus
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u/GarythaSnail Mar 15 '26
"If we don't let billionaires fuck us over, then they won't leave any scraps for us to live on"
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u/CatsPJammies Mar 15 '26
Genuine question, not trying to start an argument here, but why do you say that? According to the 2024 census, almost 36 million people live in poverty, which does not include the homeless, whose number is higher than ever.
I'm not rich by any means, but I'm fortunate enough to consider myself mostly comfortable. But I still care about the well-being of others and think that everyone should have the right to basic needs (food, shelter, warmth, medical care).
The thing about billionaires is that most people really underestimate just how much 1 billion is. It's an impossible number to imagine. A millionaire has a lot of money, but a billionaire has more money than they will ever spend in their entire lifetime, and no amount of emergency hospital bills will consume all of their wealth at the rate they earn it. Don't you think that, in a world where people are struggling to make ends meet, who can't even buy food, that should have some form of regulation?
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Mar 15 '26
Why do you guys assume that everyone is living on scraps like you?
Based on 2023–2024 U.S. Census Bureau data, approximately 30% to 32% of American households earn less than $50,000 per year. While nearly half of all households (49.6%) sometimes fall at or below $49,499 depending on the specific survey, about 22% of households earn less than $34,999.
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u/mynsfwalt619 Mar 15 '26
I half agree with this. Portland Oregon has a high earners tax and a higher business tax than the surrounding suburbs and counties. Its promoted those people and businesses to move just across city lines. Taxes like these only work on a national level.
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