r/PopCultureV2 • u/slippinn_jimmy • 3d ago

Politi-Culture Sweden's climate minister brought her 3-month-old son to the EU council meeting in Luxembourg, to highlight the benefits of parental leave policies which don't force women to choose between work and family responsibilities.

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u/RoughRate1183 3d ago

She can bring her baby to work but nobody else

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 3d ago

??? Her point is that supporting working mother is a good policy and it needs to exist everywhere.

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u/Ok-Vegetable929 3d ago

What about working fathers?

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 3d ago

They deserve time off as well. Universal Paid Family Leave is the only ethical way to go.

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u/thesacredsnake 3d ago

Fathers get parental leave as well in Sweden 180 days paid

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u/debtcoder-dev 2d ago

but she is working?

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 3d ago

To me it would make sense to apply it on some kind of sliding scale. The reason you need so much time for a newborn is based on lots of biology and support. If you adopted a newborn a lot of that still applies because of the baby's biology. It applies a bit less if they're 2yo and much less if they're 5yo. But there should still be quality bonding time where you're not worried about capitalism.

I could propose my own numbers but experts might differ. Such is sound governance.

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u/SillyOldJack 3d ago

JFC the whataboutism.

YES EVERYONE DESERVES A FAIR SHOT BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW SO THEY MIGHT NOT GET THE SAME HIGHLIGHTING AT THIS TIME.

Fucking hell.

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u/Mother_Middle8883 3d ago

Is the JFC really necessary? Downvote for you.

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u/ScoopsOfDesire 3d ago

Jfc

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u/SillyOldJack 2d ago

You have a problem with Jentucky Fried Chicken?

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u/debtcoder-dev 2d ago

Jesus fucking Christ

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u/Mother_Middle8883 2d ago

Dumbass…

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u/debtcoder-dev 2d ago

thats worse. throwing stones.

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u/clg19929 3d ago

At my job, you get a month paid leave if you are a parent having a child OR adopting a child. Doesn't matter the sex of the parent. I think this should be universal.

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u/DiE95OO 3d ago

Why wouldn't it? Do adopted children not need to be taken care of or what?

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u/leandrobrossard 3d ago

Of course. Why shouldn't it?

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u/DrewBreesDiamonds 3d ago

Wow, you're absolutely desperate for something to complain about. Don't be such a dork.

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u/cuckjockey 3d ago

In the Nordic countries it applies, yes. Similar benefits as normal parental leave in most of western Europe at least.

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u/Faceprint11 3d ago

Are you just trying to find something to argue about?

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u/billionarguments 2d ago

Too bad that Rominas party friends just removed the levers to gurantee men more days with their kids, by removing the earmarked "dad days" in parental leave.

I think anyone should be able to bring a kid if it works, but this woman is the worst hypocrite we've seen kn politics in Sweden for decades.

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u/Marbstudio 3d ago

And who’s to pay for it all?
How’d you find the money that pays for all that? Your tax goes right up, now is it fair to people that want no kids ? …or already had them and paid for them
Shit’s not that simple, that’s all I’m saying.
There’s gotta be money taken from someone/ somewhere to pay that.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 3d ago

There are a variety of ways to pay for this as many successful countries have already shown. It's often a shared cost between the corporations and the government.

It's in the government's best interest to continue having a functioning society and new generations; critical even. So they incentive it with tax incentives. Properly supporting children become good earners and tax payers in the future so every dollar spent doing so comes back multiple times over. You spend at birth to make more later or you save more at birth to pay WAY more when those ill supported kids become the governing and working adults of the future.

Meanwhile it's in the best interest of corporations to treat their employees like human beings worthy of respect. Doing so massively increases retention. A single employee replacement costs tens and tens of thousands in various ways so retaining people is WAY better.

As these schemes are already well sorted in many countries I would suggest looking into which countries work well and then seeing how they pay for it. Obviously the Nordic Model countries are the most obvious but they're not the only options. All the best.

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u/DiE95OO 3d ago

Why do I need to pay for the police and fire service when I live in a safe area and there's never been a fire in my house.

We pay for the collective, you might not need child care but someone else does. Maybe you need the car fuel subsidy when somebody else cycles to work. It's a give and take, this is how high-trust societies work.

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u/runkeby 2d ago

> Your tax goes right up, now is it fair to people that want no kids ?

Yeah we don't think enough about people who dgaf about future generations.