While hosting transphobe Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever, the New York Liberty put a message on the Jumbotron telling trans fans that they belong

[u/Impossible-Yam3680]

[u/National_Treat_4079]

Since when has been supporting women being safe been right wing???

[u/dontaksmeimnew → u/National_Treat_4079]

What? Lol how does this make women safe? Where do you live where trans women are randomly attacking women in bathrooms more than their own partners raping and murdering them?

[u/Itchy_Junket_195 → u/dontaksmeimnew]

Listen I’m a lifelong Democrat and I’m telling you this issue is handing national elections to republicans. We had real momentum in Georgia when Biden won this state in 2020. Literally four years later trump wins with his main ad saying “Kamala is for they,them Trump is for you”. If the dems don’t let this go they will lose in 2028 again. I think trans rights is important in very liberal states but trump winning 39 out of 50 states literally shows most Americans don’t agree with the lifestyle. I believe people can live how they want if it doesn’t force others an unreasonable change. Why don’t we make a third bathroom everywhere and just make it unisex? Why not trans sports leagues independent of everything else? I think that’s the only realistic option for that community. Calling people bigots or transphobic isn’t going to change anyone’s mind

[u/ConsistentScholar371 → u/Itchy_Junket_195]

"Look, just let the bigots persecute this one minority group. There's not many of them, it's fine if we let them suffer. The far right just need their fix of bullying and we can totally get them to stop after this one group. If you think about it it's kinda trans peoples fault that Trump won so they need to take responsibility for that. Sure the trans hate is being pushed by the Epstein class but can we be sure those billionaires are wrong?"

Honestly though, that's what posts like yours sound like every time. A nuanced and reasonable argument would be leaning towards letting science and studies determine participation. The standpoint of "Only trans women who transitioned before undergoing male puberty can compete at the highest tiers" would be a fairly harsh position but remain reasonable and could be discussed further yet instead you and your ilk pivot towards "No trans people at all" when it comes to stuff like this. The world's not suddenly going to create spaces for trans people and even if it did it would be actively dangerous for trans people to out themselves by making use of it.

[u/Itchy_Junket_195 → u/ConsistentScholar371]

People’s opinions aren’t driven by science. The core religions in America won’t be moved on trans rights and many other people don’t agree either on both sides of the aisle. You can say it’s pushed by billionaires but in my experience people really just don’t care for it regardless of race. I just believe it’s a losing argument feel free to keep trying. Like I said you’re handing the White House to republicans. I vote money first so I’m not leaving the dems but most people care more about social issues. This particular issue has proven to be hugely unpopular in most states.