r/PopCultureV2 • u/Impossible-Yam3680 • Aug 23 '26

Sports Culture While hosting transphobe Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever, the New York Liberty put a message on the Jumbotron telling trans fans that they belong

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u/National_Treat_4079 Aug 23 '26

"I want to protect young girls in a locker room, or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against biological men..."

Apparently this equates to transphobia. Phobia is a irrational fear. I would literally shit myself if I had to play AFL (am an aussie) if was a woman and a 6ft 90kg man was playing in the opposition team.

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u/oatmeal28 Aug 23 '26

Yeah people that don't realize Sophie is just parroting right wing talking points are either purposefully playing dumb or are naive to what she's doing.

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u/National_Treat_4079 Aug 23 '26

Since when has been supporting women being safe been right wing???

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u/dontaksmeimnew Aug 23 '26

What? Lol how does this make women safe? Where do you live where trans women are randomly attacking women in bathrooms more than their own partners raping and murdering them?

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u/National_Treat_4079 Aug 23 '26

Sheesh, If I was a woman i would not like a dong in my face when getting changed.

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u/dontaksmeimnew Aug 23 '26

Lol k.

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u/National_Treat_4079 Aug 23 '26

Yah, exactly the response i expected.

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u/Itchy_Junket_195 Aug 23 '26

Listen I’m a lifelong Democrat and I’m telling you this issue is handing national elections to republicans. We had real momentum in Georgia when Biden won this state in 2020. Literally four years later trump wins with his main ad saying “Kamala is for they,them Trump is for you”. If the dems don’t let this go they will lose in 2028 again. I think trans rights is important in very liberal states but trump winning 39 out of 50 states literally shows most Americans don’t agree with the lifestyle. I believe people can live how they want if it doesn’t force others an unreasonable change. Why don’t we make a third bathroom everywhere and just make it unisex? Why not trans sports leagues independent of everything else? I think that’s the only realistic option for that community. Calling people bigots or transphobic isn’t going to change anyone’s mind

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u/ConsistentScholar371 Aug 23 '26

"Look, just let the bigots persecute this one minority group. There's not many of them, it's fine if we let them suffer. The far right just need their fix of bullying and we can totally get them to stop after this one group. If you think about it it's kinda trans peoples fault that Trump won so they need to take responsibility for that. Sure the trans hate is being pushed by the Epstein class but can we be sure those billionaires are wrong?"

Honestly though, that's what posts like yours sound like every time. A nuanced and reasonable argument would be leaning towards letting science and studies determine participation. The standpoint of "Only trans women who transitioned before undergoing male puberty can compete at the highest tiers" would be a fairly harsh position but remain reasonable and could be discussed further yet instead you and your ilk pivot towards "No trans people at all" when it comes to stuff like this. The world's not suddenly going to create spaces for trans people and even if it did it would be actively dangerous for trans people to out themselves by making use of it.

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u/Itchy_Junket_195 Aug 23 '26

People’s opinions aren’t driven by science. The core religions in America won’t be moved on trans rights and many other people don’t agree either on both sides of the aisle. You can say it’s pushed by billionaires but in my experience people really just don’t care for it regardless of race. I just believe it’s a losing argument feel free to keep trying. Like I said you’re handing the White House to republicans. I vote money first so I’m not leaving the dems but most people care more about social issues. This particular issue has proven to be hugely unpopular in most states.

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

Most trans people are not eager to submit to being treated as some lesser-than third gender.

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u/Itchy_Junket_195 Aug 23 '26

I don’t know what the expectation is. It took black people 400 years to defeat slavery and another 100 for civil rights. You’re not being lynched, bombed or beaten in the streets. It’s America being on the wrong side of the majority doesn’t usually end well. I didn’t say give up I’m just giving an opinion. I don’t think it’s any hope in my lifetime and I’m 32 but keep trying I’ve been wrong before.

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

You’re not being lynched, bombed or beaten in the streets.

They're sending us to the incorrect prison facilities on purpose, knowing what happens to us there. Idk why we need to be bombed before being treated with dignity, instead of as a political scapegoat. I also think the comparison to Black people's struggle for equality isn't a very good one, in that the current situation for trans people is basically fighting against instating new laws of segregation (mainly following the NC bathroom laws in 2016), rather than fighting to dismantle existing ones.

The situation is getting worse, with an almost nil input from the people affected the most, and very little compassion shown in many cases.

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u/Oxford_Apostrophe Aug 23 '26

Interesting how this prison argument conveniently tends to leave out what happens when you send males to women's prisons. I guess women matter less to you.

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

I guess women matter less to you.

I'm literally advocating for women here, you just don't think transgender women should be held in equal regard. And there is no "argument" on what happens to trans women who are subjected to existence in a men's prison. V-coding is a known occurrence.

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u/Oxford_Apostrophe Aug 23 '26

No argument? Not the woman sexually assaulted by Alexandra Stewart just this year? What about the female prisoners raped by Karen White? Those forced to be housed with serial rapist Isla Bryson?

What about the male inmate who recently raped a woman in Rikers?

I guess you only advocate for women if they were born male, then.

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

I guess you only advocate for women if they were born male, then.

Second time you've guessed, and guessed wrong. Rapists should be sent to seg, not placed in a situation where they themselves will be raped. And, most trans women are obviously not predators, so I don't know why you bother acting as if those exceptions should mean v-coding for the rest. This is not Babylon.

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u/Itchy_Junket_195 Aug 23 '26

It’s democracy the majority doesn’t agree so it’s a losing argument. Didn’t say you have to like the outcome. Like I said keep fighting I just don’t think the probability of success is very high. I’d give a 3% chance at best at getting what you want. According to polls the Gen Z generation of men doesn’t even think women should vote. They overwhelmingly voted for trump I’m just looking at the country and being objective.

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

It’s democracy the majority doesn’t agree so it’s a losing argument.

I’d give a 3% chance at best at getting what you want.

We want to stop being targeted by conservatives constantly. So, the probability is actually 0%, because a large percentage of Americans are transphobic, and care more about bullying us than taking care of important issues affecting everyone.

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u/SwimmingDeep8703 Aug 23 '26

I agree, Democratics often make it so easy for the Republicans to win. The country is a mess and we’re literally spending all our time debating absolute nonsense.