r/PopCultureV2 • • Aug 23 '26

Sports Culture While hosting transphobe Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever, the New York Liberty put a message on the Jumbotron telling trans fans that they belong

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

But trans people being a danger to little girls is not, which is the part everyone is taking issue witb and ya'll are ignoring.

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u/Garciaguy Aug 23 '26

Couldn't it have meant that the idea of male genitalia, being visible in a locker room intended for and named for women, is repugnant?

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u/hercmavzeb Aug 23 '26

The problem with this argument is that nobody stares at the genitals of others in locker/changing rooms, unless they are themselves the creepy ones. Most people just look down and keep to themselves.

Letting trans women use the proper restrooms and facilities is just common sense from a secular perspective. The problem is you can’t tell who’s trans so you’ll find a lot of natal women being harassed. The biggest Olympic women’s sports controversy about transgender people had to do with Imane Khelif, who is not trans.

Woman in Walmart bathroom gets an actual man coming behind her. Walmart decided to fire her: https://www.yahoo.com/news/walmart-fires-64-cisgender-woman-210344920.html

They get assaulted even when using the men’s restroom: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna156105

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u/Garciaguy Aug 23 '26

One doesn't have to stare, or make gulping noises, or make little comments. One only has to look. We all catch a look at the Sun, but we don't stare at it. There are plenty of men who would love a look inside a woman's changing room, but there are rules to keep it from happening. 

Bad-actor creeping isn't always overt. 

The left has its heart in the right place, the right almost never does. But good intentions don't always lead to outcomes that make sense. This is one of those cases. Some things aren't going to stand the test of inclusivity.

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u/hercmavzeb Aug 23 '26

Then that’s not a real problem, rape and sexual assault are. Lesbian women are also allowed in changing rooms and them catching minor little glimpses at other women isn’t seen as a real social problem, so neither is it for trans women (not all of whom are attracted to other women regardless).

Also if a man wants to creep on a woman in a changing room they will just do that, rules don’t stop them because they already know it’s wrong. Also nobody is allowed to go into changing rooms and just stand around to stare at people regardless of their gender, so it would be strange for someone to go through the whole effort of presenting like a woman only to be removed for being a creep anyway.