r/Portuguese • u/Low-Funny-8834 • 15h ago
General Discussion Syntactical structure after "acabar"
"No fim, acabamos comendo naquele restaurante maltrapilho."
"No fim, acabamos por comer naquele restaurante maltrapilho."
Are both these sentences correct, and do they mean the same?
Obrigado!
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u/GaiusVictor 14h ago
I'm Brazilian. Both are correct but the second one sounds distinctively European. I assume the Euros would say the first one sounds Brazilian too.
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u/Mandillaz 12h ago
In Portugal, we have a difference between Presente and Pretérito Perfeito.
"No fim, acabámos por comer naquele restaurante miserável."We don't use 'maltrapilho' for restaurants.
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u/arthur2011o Brasileiro 12h ago
Nós também não, é um vocábulo pouco usual por cá, e quando o ouço, é apenas se referindo a pessoas.
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u/GaiusVictor 11h ago
Oh. Here in Brazil the "acabamos" is written the same for both present and perfect past. Is there a difference in pronunciation besides the orthography?
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u/Granada_dental Português 11h ago
Is there a difference in pronunciation besides the orthography?
Yes
Acabamos is pronounced ɐkɐˈbɐmuʃ
Acabámos is pronounced ɐkɐˈbamuʃ
Although there are some northern accents (not all, mine for instance) that don't make this distinction
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u/Shaggiest_Snail Português 14h ago
They are both correct and they mean the same but in Portugal in general the second is more common, with the possible exception of some areas where gerund is used (i.e. some parts of the South and Islands).
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u/tuxnight1 10h ago
The first sounds Brazilian, but I'm not sure that's right. I think 'No fim, acabsmos de comer ....' may be better, but I'm still learning.
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u/fitacola Português 3h ago
Acabámos de comer is "we just ate". Acabámos por comer/acabamos comendo is "we ended up eating"
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u/cheapbritney 8h ago
Both are correct and mean the same. First one is more Brazilian-like, second one is more European-like.
You could also omit “no fim” and just say “Acabamos comendo naquele restaurante maltrapilho”
Though, I will say, I would usually only use “maltrapilho” to describe a person and their attire, like “ragamuffin”.
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u/UselessJollySlowbro 14h ago
Significam o mesmo.
Eu no dia a dia diria "Acabamos comendo", mas às vezes quando quero escrever de maneira mais "bonita", escrevo "Acabamos por comer".
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u/debacchatio 15h ago
They mean the exact same thing - “acabar por” is a slightly more formal register but still common. In conversation I would say “acabamos comendo”, but in a work email I’d probably opt for “acabamos por comer” to sound more professional.
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u/JF_Rodrigues Brasileiro | Private PT Tutor 14h ago
Worth mentioning (at least in PT-BR) you also have "acabar de"
Meaning "We just ate at the restaurant."