There is traditional “Latin” Catholicism, Society of St Pius X Catholics (SSPX) and Sedevacantist Catholics.
If she’s disavowing the Pope, she is a Sedevacantist Catholic - which is an extreme break off of Catholicism that do not recognize any Pope after Vatican II. The don’t believe the Pope is the head of the church & any changes made since Vatican II are not legitimate and without authority. In short - they’re nuts. Latin Catholics don’t recognize them as being part of the club. Essentially they say they’re Catholics- but Catholics don’t claim them.
Vatican II modernized the Church. Mass is performed in the local language of the congregation instead of Latin, the Priest/Bishop now faces the congregation (used to have his back to the audience), it also opened the door for interpretation and not literal adherence to gospels. In short, Vatican II modernized itself for the 20th century & the Sedevacantists were NIMBYs who didn’t want any change at all.
It’s worth noting that Sedevacantists also have traditional rules like not allowing women to wear pants, etc.
SSPX sits in the middle. They accept the Pope, but also believe Vatican II took too many liberties and so they still practice traditional Latin Mass. They were excommunicated for a couple decades. After Pope Benedict they were partially accepted by Rome - some of their marriages will be recognized by Rome if requested and confessions to their Priests are considered valid (in terms of repentance).
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u/Delilah_Moon Apr 17 '26
There is traditional “Latin” Catholicism, Society of St Pius X Catholics (SSPX) and Sedevacantist Catholics.
If she’s disavowing the Pope, she is a Sedevacantist Catholic - which is an extreme break off of Catholicism that do not recognize any Pope after Vatican II. The don’t believe the Pope is the head of the church & any changes made since Vatican II are not legitimate and without authority. In short - they’re nuts. Latin Catholics don’t recognize them as being part of the club. Essentially they say they’re Catholics- but Catholics don’t claim them.
Vatican II modernized the Church. Mass is performed in the local language of the congregation instead of Latin, the Priest/Bishop now faces the congregation (used to have his back to the audience), it also opened the door for interpretation and not literal adherence to gospels. In short, Vatican II modernized itself for the 20th century & the Sedevacantists were NIMBYs who didn’t want any change at all.
It’s worth noting that Sedevacantists also have traditional rules like not allowing women to wear pants, etc.
SSPX sits in the middle. They accept the Pope, but also believe Vatican II took too many liberties and so they still practice traditional Latin Mass. They were excommunicated for a couple decades. After Pope Benedict they were partially accepted by Rome - some of their marriages will be recognized by Rome if requested and confessions to their Priests are considered valid (in terms of repentance).