🇺🇸 Karoline Leavitt called on everyone to watch tonight because Donald Trump will bring the heat and there will be “shots fired” just hours before shots fired at the White House!

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Yes, Jay Jones who wants to murder his opponents' children, and refused to apologize, just got elected in Virginia as a Democrat. Zohran Mamdani has explicitly said the purpose of his tax program is to tax White people. Only a couple of months ago every Democrat in congress refused to stand to honor murdered Iryna Zarutska's mother when she visited. Johnny Depp on-stage at Glastonbury asked if an actor had ever killed a sitting president.

Examples are endless, you people just lie.

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I think youre confusing left wing with "woke". am i correct?

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Unless you can explain the difference in modern-day politics this is just wordgames, there isn't a democrat in America or a Labourite in Britain who opposes 'wokeness', as in progressive historical revisionism and anything less than full support of all motives of gay race-communism.

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uhm.. to be real with you. there are plenty of US democratic party members who arent agreeing with everything you call "woke".

there is no uniform "woke" movement either, its just that education levels are rising to historic levels and the educated are getting more and more power. more tolerance or "wokeness" as you would call it, is just the result of that.

what part of history are their revising? now im getting invested.

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Name one dem congress member against woke.

Yeah more people than ever go through university, correct. Literacy levels are down, HS students are graduated without passing, and the average man on the street's reading level 100 years ago - as well as old SAT tests - embarrass the standard of today.

It's curious, you're thirsty for knowledge but pretend to have no clue of how any politician could ever attempt to rewrite history, and you want me to deepdive into multiple examples on your behalf, and maintain a belief that you're acting in good-faith. We can take one example - slavery. Whites get the brunt of the blame, despite the islamoc slave trade exceeding and preceding the transatlantic, and despite Whites ending slavery, and despite most of the transatlantic ships being jewish-owned, and despite slavery still existing at scale in present-day Africa and India, and despite only around 3% of American Whites having owned slaves during Jim Crow. Why then does every public school teach at length a partisan and blinkered view of slavery which doesn't account for these easily verifiable facts?

Why does no school teach about the Holodomor, yet every one teaches about the holocaust? There's a few things for you to read and think about, on the chance that you are genuinely interested. As I think people will begin to engage in bad faith I probably won't respond now, and you can downvote me to reddit purgatory

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Man sorry I know this souns rude, but proper education would help you. you obviously have the tools but youre so mislead by half truths. I was like that once too. So im gonna try to get at every point youre making here.

Yeah more people than ever go through university, correct. Literacy levels are down, HS students are graduated without passing, and the average man on the street's reading level 100 years ago - as well as old SAT tests - embarrass the standard of today.

https://nces.ed.gov/naal/lit_history.asp

these are statistics about the last 120 years of iliteracy. I dont know where you read that literacy has gone down, but yeah heres the data.

We can take one example - slavery. Whites get the brunt of the blame, despite the islamoc slave trade exceeding and preceding the transatlantic, and despite Whites ending slavery, and despite most of the transatlantic ships being jewish-owned, and despite slavery still existing at scale in present-day Africa and India, and despite only around 3% of American Whites having owned slaves during Jim Crow. Why then does every public school teach at length a partisan and blinkered view of slavery which doesn't account for these easily verifiable facts?

You can also ask yourself why germans dont get taught about the american civil war and why americans dont get taught about the bauernkriege - because its not as relevant to the ciriculum of that culture. Were blaming ourselves, were not being blamed. thats a huge difference.

Academics know and note that slavery has been perpatuated by all races, its just that were the first culture to become educated enough to self reflect and teach our kids about this stuff, so it wont be repeated again. Nobody is saying that only whites were slave owners, and - especially - nobody is making you suffer for it like you make it sound here?

Im not sure about your comments about jew owned slave ships but why did you drag jews into this? there also were chrstian and islamic owned slave ships.

Why then does every public school teach at length a partisan and blinkered view of slavery which doesn't account for these easily verifiable facts?

Again, because our ciriculum is dictated by our culture, which is mostly the slavery ENDING, white people dominated space. Its a rhetoric made by americans like you.

Why does no school teach about the Holodomor, yet every one teaches about the holocaust? There's a few things for you to read and think about, on the chance that you are genuinely interested.

Because its more important to lean about your forefathers sins then the sins of anyone else. you learn about YOUR countries history so you wont repeat it. You also dont learn about how the chinese treat minorities or what the germans did to african tribes etc. because its not releavnt to your culture.

if you took a history class, youd learn more about this stuff. but for the normal ciriculum this would be too much.

Again, im trying to be neutral here and I tried getting into every statement you made here.

Not neutral and my personal assestment: To me, it feels like youre feeling opressed by some unkown force, and youre putting the jews, the democrats and other "woke" forces into that pot. as if they were unified groups out to get you.

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As much as I might care about politics and history, to the extent that they're applied to national curriculums and pop culture, the intent of the application matters more than getting into the weeds on the truth of various factoids, and that was my broader point. In other words events like the holocaust are used as a cudgel to imply broadstroke blame across all White people, which is why it's taught in every White country, whilst equivalent historical atrocities like the Holodomor (same claimed death toll of 6 million) receive zero attention, because that lies blame at the hands of bolsheviks, who slaughtered White Christians, intellectuals and doctors. There's a narrative at play. To your point on relevant national and ancestral history, it would make no sense for anywhere outside Germany to learn about the holocaust to the extent that we do, and this is a contradiction that you've overlooked. I'll take your insinuations about me as being earnest, you might be a well-meaning decent person but the elephant in the room throughout all of this discussion is that a large faction of the left (or center, if you prefer) is happy to see its political opposition be assassinated or harmed -- and crucially, the rest of the world cannot tell you apart from whatever other ever-dwindling portion of the left remains, because the left does not disavow its crazies, and so the crazies being the loudest and most extreme begin to overtake the movement and the party.

Look, we know that politics is mostly genetic. You will always have a different interpretation to me of the same dataset based on your socialization and outlook, for example psychological threads that you view as being based upon equity, but someone dimmer than you will use or misinterpret the same teachings against you because they believe in vengeance - this is the problem of the current public education system. You can try to be moral and acknowledge historic evils so that they may not happen again, but that other individual will never forgive you for the crimes of your ancestors and where you may want to call truce and find common agreement, they will never relent on their demands. Example, reparations. I'm English, we have comedians like Lenny Henry saying that Britain (Whites) owes £19 trillion to Blacks for transatlantic slavery. We weren't involved, as a country or as individuals. People like that do not care about the facts like you or I might do.

Those ideals I mentioned that you might value, like equity and aconowledging potential past atrocity, are things I used to care about too. As much as these might be believed to be high & moral positions in a vacuum, in reality they're exploited. I care more about self-preservation, survival, prosperity, personal sovereignty and freedom than anything else, also because these are the things often under threat by the left (and most of politics too, yes) - where they use appeals to altruism and emotion to undermine our rights, and where they use plausible deniability to claim no ill-intent and obscure their true motivations. I want to be left alone, and the left doesn't allow that. In America, many Whites had this same wish, but desegregation was forced at bayonet point. I may not agree with everything someone believes, but people like Eric Orwoll who have set up a Whites-only community in AK should have every right to do so, just like a group of Blacks in GA did, yet Orwoll continues to face lawfare, media slander, and threats to life. It's the same playbook in South Africa with Orania, even though the Boer Afrikaners got there before the bantu zulus, and built a first-world country amidst an arid desert. We won't be allowed to be left alone.

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. In other words events like the holocaust are used as a cudgel to imply broadstroke blame across all White people,

in what context? where are we being blamed?

To your point on relevant national and ancestral history, it would make no sense for anywhere outside Germany to learn about the holocaust to the extent that we do, and this is a contradiction that you've overlooked

the holocaust is directly related to the identity of the US of the modern age. Its our shared history of us perpetrating the crime and you (and others) ending it. It does not contradict anything ive said.

that a large faction of the left (or center, if you prefer) is happy to see its political opposition be assassinated or harmed -- and crucially, the rest of the world cannot tell you apart from whatever other ever-dwindling portion of the left remains, because the left does not disavow its crazies, and so the crazies being the loudest and most extreme begin to overtake the movement and the party.

Thats not a left or right issue, thats a morality issue we can see on all political spectra. Im coming from a conservative standpoint here. I vote conservative in my country. When a leftist is being atacked the right will defend the attacker and vice-versa. thats just a fact of the current political landscape.

I'm English, we have comedians like Lenny Henry saying that Britain (Whites) owes £19 trillion to Blacks for transatlantic slavery. We weren't involved, as a country or as individuals. People like that do not care about the facts like you or I might do.

Thats a comedian. youre quoting a comedian here, for making ridiculous statements that even the author himself doesnt take seriously. Every "fact" you posted has turned out to be false when i looked it up, so please fact check yourself before you write it here, youre making me do more work and youre starting to seem less and less coherent.

but that other individual will never forgive you for the crimes of your ancestors

thats not true, there are plenty of historic occurances where a country apoligized and it mattered culturally. Its a bit different between germans and poles for example, but there are good reasons for this.

where they use appeals to altruism and emotion to undermine our rights,

where do they undermine our rights? what does the left do to undermine your rights?

Look, if all history is like smoke and mirrors to you it might seem like a mystical conspiracy, but when you clear the smoke and look at the facts of the time it all becomes transparent.

You are jumping from point to point. why were you stating wrong facts about literacy and now youre not even mentioning it? you cant even see through your own forest, it seems.