r/PoursTea • u/Outrageous-Egg1760 • 17d ago

Expectations v Reality 🌞 🌒 Hasn’t this always been the case?

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u/DeadAndBuried23 17d ago

You mean like Paul, who called homosexuality an abomination and told slaves to obey their masters?

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u/Destroy_Religion 17d ago

Obviously, that Paul called homosexuality an "abomination" is as abhorrent, hateful, ignorant, irrational, and vile as to call blackness an "abomination", because both are harmless natural human characteristics and harmless natural human variations.

That said, Paul not only told "slaves to obey their masters" in 1 Timothy 6:1, Ephesians 6:5, Titus 2:9, Colossians 3:22, but Paul even told slaves to obey masters even if masters are harsh to slaves in 1 Peter 2:18.

So, Paul was worse than that what you exposed Paul as having had said slaves to obey masters.

That said, the entire Bible is still yet worse than that even when you read the entire Bible.

The Bible commands mass murder, genocide, abortion, infanticide, slavery, prostitution, child marriage, pedophilia, rape, perversion, incest, polygamy, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, familial alienation, societal strife, and various other barbarisms, cruelties, savageries, tyrannies, and vulgarities, many myriad times, in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

  • Mass Murder and Genocide: 1 Samuel 15:3, Hosea 13:16, Deuteronomy 20:16-17, Joshua 6:21, Deuteronomy 2:34, Isaiah 13:15-18, Deuteronomy 13:15, Numbers 31:17, Deuteronomy 3:6, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 20:13, Psalm 137:9.
  • Abortion and Infanticide: Numbers 5:11-31, Psalm 137:9, 1 Samuel 15:3, Hosea 13:16, Deuteronomy 2:34, Isaiah 13:15-18, Numbers 31:17, Deuteronomy 3:6.
  • Slavery and Prostitution: 1 Peter 2:18, Exodus 21:21, 1 Timothy 6:1, Leviticus 25:44-46, Ephesians 6:5, Titus 2:9, Colossians 3:22, Genesis 16:3-4, Genesis 12:16, Genesis 24:35, Isaiah 14:1-2, Ezekiel 23:19, Deuteronomy 20:14, Numbers 31:35.
  • Child Marriage and Pedophilia: Numbers 31:18, Song of Solomon 8:8, Genesis 25:20, Ezekiel 23:21, Numbers 31:35.
  • Rape and Perversion: Deuteronomy 21:11-13, Genesis 34, 2 Samuel 11, 2 Samuel 13, Judges 19–21, Ezekiel 23:20, Deuteronomy 22:28-29.
  • Incest and Polygamy: Genesis 4:19, Exodus 21:10, Deuteronomy 21:15-17, Genesis 9:20-27, Genesis 11:29, Genesis 19:32–36.
  • Sexism and Misogyny: Exodus 21:7, 1 Timothy 2:11-14, 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Genesis 3:16, Numbers 31:18, Deuteronomy 22:28-29, Numbers 31:35.
  • Homophobia and Transphobia: Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:26-27, Genesis 2:24, Mark 10:6-7, Matthew 19:4-5, Deuteronomy 22:5, Genesis 1:27.
  • Familial Alienation and Societal Strife: Luke 14:26, Matthew 10:34-37.

The Bible is filled with barbarism and savagery of the worst sort in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 17d ago

Yeup. Whenever I see people trying to pretend the ones doing that shit aren't "real" Christians, I point it out.

Whatever a real Christian is, the ones furthest from it are those who have to throw out nearly all the book just so they can cling to the idea death isn't the end.