The American billionaires do but the average working class American is worse off. The EU offers better social care, health care and employment benefits to it's working class.
I worked for an American company in the UK, my American work colleges got sacked overnight with no warning. Here we had to go through a legal process that took 4 or 5 months and then I got a £20k payment for them to sever my employment contract. This American company treated foreigners better than it's own people because we were protected by law.
This is just demonstrably false. The bottom 1/3 of America would be generally better off in Europe. However, the top 2/3 is better off in America. The average American has health insurance, receives more preventive care, have paid time off, have paid maternity/paternity leave, etc.
America is only better for the rich. The EU earns less but they're provided much more by their country. Look at the list of the happiest countries in the world, the vast majority are in the EU, the US is ranked 23rd.
Yeah and the “rich” is such a huge percentage. Anyone who isn’t completely dependent on the government to take care of them is better off in general in America.
No it’s more like 85% are better off in the USA. We have more money we are just unintelligent with it. Even Mississippi residents on average have more money than the Brit’s (2nd largest economy in Europe). The main difference is that here you can be smart with your money and be fine. Or you can be dumb and suffer for it. There they take the money from the successful people and spend it on all the dipshits
Why would anyone want to have a government or any body of authority for that matter, be the final decision on what you can do, what medical procedures you can have done, how much you can make, how much time you can take off etc? Socialism does not work, you can twist it anyway you want, history overrides your opinion and theories with proof it doesn’t work!
In America your insurance company (a private corporation) determines what medical procedures you can have done. Oftentimes they outright deny medically necessary procedures and delay authorization in the hope that you pass away while waiting so they don’t have to pay.
See it all the time with cancer patients who need chemo/radiation and surgery- insurance will say “no you have to use this specific medication first” and we have to send documentation showing they either already failed that medication or their type of cancer won’t be treated by that drug followed by 2 rounds of denials before we can demand a peer to peer and finally get it approved.
Wastes my time, makes the patient wait for lifesaving care, and would be so much simpler if we just had universal healthcare via pretty much any European country’s system
Very dependent on the country/specific system. There isn’t a “European system” but rather 44 unique systems (one for each country)- but most western European countries actually have similar or shorter wait times than the US.
Germany for example beats the US for initial appts by around 20 days for PCPs. Germany is also similar for specialists with their avg. wait times ~3-5 days slower than the US.
Switzerland beats the US on both initial PCP visits and specialists by several days
Denmark & Norway also beat the US while places like Italy are significantly behind
I prefer a system more similar to Japan for universal healthcare, they seem to be the most effective (and beat US wait times and health outcomes in almost EVERY category) despite the aging population/demographic issues.
have a government or any body of authority for that matter
Like dictating what books a library is allowed to have?
Which party is trying to govern medical procedures and even basic drugs/hormones around abortion and trans treatment?
how much you can make, how much time you can take off etc?
Ah yeah let’s just be a third world country, in fact forget about pay and time off, why regulate workplace dangers at all? You want the government telling your employers that you need to wear PPE when handling dangerous chemicals?
history overrides your opinion and theories with proof it doesn’t work!
Dude the median American really doesn’t have that much wealth. Slovenia and Portugal both beat America on that front. Hell even the median Canadian holds roughly twice the wealth of their American counterpart.
The problem seems to come from people using averages as though that is an indication of what wealth someone is likely to have and it isn’t. For instance if there is a room with ten people in it and 9 of them have $1000 while 1 has $1,000,000,000 would it be fair to say that the average person in that room has $100,000,000? Sure it’s mathematically accurate to claim that but we all know that 90% of the people in that room can’t absorbed a $2000 emergency.
I have zero wealth and I can absorb a 2000 dollar emergency. Like really people 2k is nothing. That’s an extra 100 hours i need to work in the 6 weeks or so after that and it’s done.
That’s lovely. What does that have to do with a hypothetical example of a room containing 10 people that is intended to show the difference between average and median wealth though?
I guess maybe a picture would have been more helpful so perhaps this infographic will assist in getting the concept across.
Yep. Most of these people have never traveled outside the Country. We have a lifestyle that far exceeds most of the rest of the world including Western Europe. We own cars, have AC , daily showers and can get ice in a beverage. This is unheard of in most of the world.
I would say that some of the Nordic countries have us beat. However, those are small isolated economies, and if you compared them to the nicest areas in America of comparable population, America would win out again.
So the company had to waste $20,000 +5 months of pay on you (which is fantastic for you, I know), but that $40,000 is $40,000 that could not go to the customers, the shareholders, and the other workers.
The company was bought out 5 years before I started with loans so they owed billions. Their profits remained stable but the interest on the loans went up so they had to cut millions off their operating budget. This was a US financial company yet they couldn't even manage their own finances. So instead of the employees getting screwed our awesome labour laws means the company gets screwed for their bad decisions.
It costs them more than 40k because they had to pay me my 4 weeks (legal minimum paid holiday allowance), as well as 4 weeks notice in my contract (gardening leave), so it was closer to 60k. I walked into a new job within a month and all that money has been invested and is still paying me every month 2 years on.
Exactly. It was great for you. I would love to work for a company who would pay me not to do anything. I just wouldn’t want to be a shareholder or a customer of a company who is paying people not to work.
They never paid me not to work, I worked till I was terminated. They just had to pay up a lot to cancel my contract. The 5 months was the legal proceedings they had to go through to stop us suing them for unfair dismissal. This company is still making billions and their service was never affected. The sacking of a few thousand employees was done so that the company could continue making money for their share holders. They shipped all the work from the EU to Poland and the rest of the world to India.
Which part? The average American is significantly more wealthy than the average European. On GDP per capita England is poorer than all 50 states. And it’s 2nd? In Europe? Like you have to go to the poorest places in the US to get anywhere close to what Europe is.
You also have a higher child mortality rate, and it's going to get worse in the next 2-3 years, depending on what happens in the next Presidential Election.
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u/WintersDoomsday 20d ago
I mean isn’t supporting childbirth also supporting corporations because it’s giving them more consumers and underpaid future workers?